You do know that WPG is playing Myers on their top pairing, right?
- theblueandgold

So far...one game does not a trend make.
Good for him/them fine stays there.
I'm good with the trade

You do know that WPG is playing Myers on their top pairing, right?
- theblueandgold

Trouba and Buff are the top pair

Myers is playing with Enstrom

it's splitting hairs because they play both groups about the same, but Trouba and Buff are their top pair

Trouba and Buff are the top pair

Myers is playing with Enstrom

it's splitting hairs because they play both groups about the same, but Trouba and Buff are their top pair
- homiedclown

They do still play Buff on the wing some games though.

Then why is Kessel typically over the past few years produced more with less.
- RogerRoeper

Kessel scores more... But Kane has the other stuff to back up his legacy.

Two cups
Conn Smythe
Game winning goal for the cup
Currently leads the NHL

Going just by stats isn't the best way to rate a player.

Ask anyone who they would rather have. The majority would easily say Kane without question

Kessel scores more... But Kane has the other stuff to back up his legacy.

Two cups
Conn Smythe
Game winning goal for the cup
Currently leads the NHL

Going just by stats isn't the best way to rate a player.

Ask anyone who they would rather have. The majority would easily say Kane without question
- Smittyx36

Put Kessel on Chicago and he's winning cups.

They do still play Buff on the wing some games though.
- adambuffalo

yeah it's really a 4 man rotation out there

I like the concept

These three can single handedly take control of games. Kessel will float around and score goals when someone gets the puck into the o-zone, because he's not going to get it. Kane's one of the best possession guys in the game and he and Ovie are both being lauded for their improvement in their defensive game. Goal scorers trophies or not, if Kessel is so good, where are his? Don't give me this 'but he plays for the leafs' excuse. Ovie didn't have a lot of talent around him when he beat out Crosby for the Calder. And Hart trophies aren't just handed out to the highest scorer.
- adambuffalo

My mother taught me in situations like this the best thing to say is nothing.

My mother taught me in situations like this the best thing to say is nothing.
- Der Kaiser

Then why is Kessel typically over the past few years produced more with less.
- RogerRoeper

47 in 56, 63 in 56
80 in 82, 69 in 69
52 in 48, 55 in 47
82 in 82, 66 in 82
64 in 82, 73 in 73
55 in 70, 88 in 82

They are totally different type of players, you cant compare their styles. But if I was given the option, I'd pick Kane 10 times out of 10.

Why? What is it about physical play thats so endearing that its a MUST HAVE? Keith nor Subban are overly physical. Top pairing D have great skating, good at puck retrieval and moving it up the ice. Solid defensively by using positioning and active sticks. Not by checking and being overly physical.

The game has far from shifted from the bruising 70's and 80's "clearing the net" play from defenseman.

(Myers had 4 times as many hits as Keith )
- theblueandgold

It isn't an either or proposition. fact is you need both types on your D.
Here the benefits of physical play while still being a very good stay at home DMan...eventually the opposition stops coming down your side, they hesitate going into the dirty areas...it is intimidation...in whatever form you can deliver it and ONE way to do so is being physical tough, nasty...being a bully that nobody is eager to go against. That doesn't constitute being one dimensional as many seem to imply with the sillyass comments of "does he punch people in the face" which is so immature and extreme it just makes the quoted lose all credibility IMO.
Sort of like why Rodgers didn't go toSherman's side the entire game in the regular season...he was intimidated by the potential results...kind of what made Tim Horton so valuable...no he didn't have to fight..nobody wanted to and they went to the other side of the ice...FACT.

47 in 56, 63 in 56
80 in 82, 69 in 69
52 in 48, 55 in 47
82 in 82, 66 in 82
64 in 82, 73 in 73
55 in 70, 88 in 82

They are totally different type of players, you cant compare their styles. But if I was given the option, I'd pick Kane 10 times out of 10.
- theblueandgold

this times 10

If it's game 7 and I am up a goal, I want Kane on the ice
If it's game 7 and I am down a goal, I want Kane on the ice

They are both super talented players in their own way though

- homiedclown

What color are her eyes?

What color are her eyes?
- Der Kaiser

I have yet to look that far up

What color are her eyes?
- Der Kaiser

Eyes...they look like 36 DD's to me

Trouba and Buff are the top pair

Myers is playing with Enstrom

it's splitting hairs because they play both groups about the same, but Trouba and Buff are their top pair
- homiedclown

Tobias Enstrom and Bogosian were their top pairing all season. They put Myers with Enstrom on top pairing, and finally moved Buff back to D (he was playing forward) in the middle pairing

http://scores.espn.go.com...boxscore?gameId=400564718

ES TOI
Myers - 16:11
Enstrom - 16:08
Buff - 15:34
Trouba - 13:19

http://puckplusplus.com/2...e-agent-preview-forwards/


The report on Vanek before free agency last year.


Comparables

OVECHKIN, ALEX
CARTER, JEFF
IGINLA, JAROME
TURRIS, KYLE
RICHARDS, BRAD

You can't compare all players by looking at stats.

I have yet to look that far up
- homiedclown

Still focused on the seatbelt?

Tobias Enstrom and Bogosian were their top pairing all season. They put Myers with Enstrom on top pairing, and finally moved Buff back to D (he was playing forward) in the middle pairing

http://scores.espn.go.com...boxscore?gameId=400564718

ES TOI
Myers - 16:11
Enstrom - 16:08
Buff - 15:34
Trouba - 13:19
- theblueandgold

And he'll look good playing 1-4 minutes...like I said, good for him. I was not a Myers hater nor lovers...more meh, he is what he is...wouldn't have minded keeping him.
Now that we have Bogo with a different dimension, I'll enjoy it.

It isn't an either or proposition. fact is you need both types on your D.
Here the benefits of physical play while still being a very good stay at home DMan...eventually the opposition stops coming down your side, they hesitate going into the dirty areas...it is intimidation...in whatever form you can deliver it and ONE way to do so is being physical tough, nasty...being a bully that nobody is eager to go against. That doesn't constitute being one dimensional as many seem to imply with the sillyass comments of "does he punch people in the face" which is so immature and extreme it just makes the quoted lose all credibility IMO.
Sort of like why Rodgers didn't go toSherman's side the entire game in the regular season...he was intimidated by the potential results...kind of what made Tim Horton so valuable...no he didn't have to fight..nobody wanted to and they went to the other side of the ice...FACT.
- IonSabres

I dont know what all this babble is, but being physical has no bearing on whether a player is going to go into the corners or drive down your side. lol what.

http://puckplusplus.com/2014/06/26/2014-free-agent-preview-forwards/


The report on Vanek before free agency last year.


Comparables

OVECHKIN, ALEX
CARTER, JEFF
IGINLA, JAROME
TURRIS, KYLE
RICHARDS, BRAD



You can't compare all players by looking at stats.
- adambuffalo

Can you imagine how good he would have been if he had put in just the tiniest bit of effort?

I dont know what all this babble is, but being physical has no bearing on whether a player is going to go into the corners or drive down your side. lol what.
- theblueandgold

Again, you conveniently assume being physical means one dimensional, ala John Scott....I think when you ponder it a bit more, you'll realize all teams strive for a nice mix. Bogo and Myers have SI,ilat stats..Myers a tad bit more O...but lesser on Defense? I like Bogo's toughness and physicality...the same I like in Kane... I believe the Sabres where tilted to the gentler side on D hence why I'm happy for the trade.
Btw, no need to attack with immature comments.

I would honestly say a fair comparable for Kessel would be Vanek.

I would honestly say a fair comparable for Kessel would be Vanek.
- adambuffalo

Oh boy.

I watched the Notre Dame/Providence game last night, well about 2 periods of it until this old man fell asleep.

I really liked what I saw from Peterson.
If there was one thing I saw that I did not like, it was his rebound control, but mostly I was impressed with his play.

Did not see nor hear too much from Hurley.
From what I recall, he was not even on the first 2 PP units for the Irish.
Not sure why.

From Providence Anthony Florentino looked okay, took 2 penalties that I know of, wasn't too impressed with his play.

Just wondering if anyone else had watched it last night.
I believe there is a rematch tonight on NBCSN again this evening for anyone interested in watching a few of our prospects.

Oh boy.
- Der Kaiser

You don't think that's fair?