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islander4cups
New York Islanders
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 1:06 PM ET
You would be worried about a Capitals first round matchup?
- MidnightMarauder


Only that the series goes 7 and we are tired for round 2. All the Caps do is lose game 7s.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:09 PM ET
Almost every Rangers fan on twitter, here and other sites were downplaying the previous three games. "Reg season means nothing. We are looking to get back to finals- playoff hockey matters" was my fav post. You mgiht not have been doing it, but a ton of Blueshirt idiots were. As was said earlier, both sides have idiots, but one side was downplaying the previous 3 games as meaningless.
- islander4cups



Once teams get to the point, where they consistently make the playoffs, that statement, while you're mocking it, is pretty much true. The Islanders are about ready to go on a run where they are going to make the playoffs every year, and believe me, you will come to accept that statement as the truth. Because it's hard to get to excited about regular season losses once your team becomes a regular participant in the playoffs (unless you are at risk of missing). Do you think the early 80s Islanders gave a rat's ass about regular season losses?

Everybody just needs to calm down, stop feeling so aggrieved by the other team's fanbase, and spark one up or something.
islander4cups
New York Islanders
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 1:10 PM ET
Do you really need me to highlight and paste every single time that "trip" has been mentioned in a comment, or in every single article and blog written lol...I really don't think I'm the only one talking about it...

And wow, from the looks of the rant you just went on you're the one that seems like you can't take a loss or get over it lol...I've seen nothing but praise from Ranger Fans this year about how good the Isles are. I've even seen many Ranger Fans saying that the Isles so far are the better team. We are all talking about the game just like we have after every single one of the 55 we have played this year. Nothings different, except after this loss this time, you just want everyone to be quiet and stop talking lol...take a look in the mirror, you're the one acting differently not us...

- xcheckmajor


and they've also been saying the first three games mean nothing. Refs didn't cost us the game, but they made it more difficult. Girardi should have gotten 5 min major for boarding Tavares. That call gets made EVERY game. Even if its a minor, that means you guys are on the PK 4 min in the third (assuming a ref understands what a trip is) if not 7 for the major and the Kreider trip. So to not be at even strength when you are down in the third, would have been alot harder for Rags to tie the game let a lone win it. Not saying they would have lost, but refs swallowing whistles do have an impact on the game.
islander4cups
New York Islanders
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 1:12 PM ET



Once teams get to the point, where they consistently make the playoffs, that statement, while your mocking it, is pretty much true. The Islanders are about ready to go on a run where they are going to make the playoffs every year, and believe me, you will come to accept that statement as the truth. Because it's hard to get to excited about regular season losses once your team becomes a regular participant in the playoffs (unless you are at risk of missing). Do you think the early 80s Islanders gave a rat's ass about regular season losses?

Everybody just needs to calm down, stop feeling so aggrieved by the other team's fanbase, and spark one up or something.

- Pete V


Considering I was sitting in the stands when Parise scored in 75, I don't need to be told by you what reg season games mean. The truth of the matter is, lines like that are only used by the team that lost, being a reg in the playoffs has nothing to do with it.

And yes, the 80s Isles did give a rats ass which is why they won so damn much. You should try it.
Fan101
New York Islanders
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
Isles have blown leads in several recent games and having Viz, Strait and Hickey as half the defense corp does show eventually as they got worn down later in the game. Both teams played hard and the top forwards on both teams contributed big time for their team. Bailey's post ringer could have taken them to OT but overall the Rangers just kept coming on and the Isles Boychuk goal may have held them off a bit longer. For the Isles Strome's play of late shows his maturity and sooner or later Nelson will come out of it but the high speed game is still something he needs to adjust to. The Isles fourth line was hurtin' and they were a big factor in the previous three games. Ranger fans have to feel good because this was a big four point game that tied them with the Pens and overtaking the Isles is a big possibility now.

As an Isles fan I know we can play hard against the Rangers but MTL has proven they can really handle our team.

The loss was tough but if we went 5-0 against them, this as a playoff loss was a bigger possibility. Rangers are an awesome team and we need to play team D the way they can if we want to win in the PO's.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:19 PM ET
Considering I was sitting in the stands when Parise scored in 75, I don't need to be told by you what reg season games mean. The truth of the matter is, lines like that are only used by the team that lost, being a reg in the playoffs has nothing to do with it.

And yes, the 80s Isles did give a rats ass which is why they won so damn much. You should try it.

- islander4cups


O.K.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:19 PM ET
The same thing happened v. Edm the other night where there was a stick in Frans skate blade and the player actually dragged Frans from blueline to blueline trying to get the stick out and there was no call. Practically used Frans as a mop thru the neutral zone. He's on his back getting dragged by the skateblade. So you'll excuse Hamonic for wondering when the same play got no call 2 nights earlier.

Additionally, Girardi boarded Tavares with a hit from behind about 20 sec before the Strome goal. It was a dangerous hit. It gets called all the time yet it, along with the Kreider trip, doesn't get called. And it was a trip. I am constantly amazed how Rangers fans make excuses for this dirty, goalie running chump. Give him two seasons before the entire league sees him as your new Avery, only with skill.

Finally, it is funny to see Rags fans rejoicing considering how they insisted the first three games "meant nothing". It was a crazy game. Could have gone either way, unfortunately it went the wrong way. Need to get ready for Carolina today. Moving on.

- islander4cups



On your first point, the Islanders get away with their fair share against the Rangers. I seem to recall Matt Martin slashing Stepan's hand, in the 3-0 Islanders win, where Stepan was forced to sit the rest of the game out and missed one or two games after that.

No call.

Don't mistake my Rangers fandom with being a homer. I am aware they get away with some calls every now and then, just like every team does. The NHL officials are some of the worst in professional sports and calls are going to be missed more than any fan would like to see.

On your second point, associating Rangers fans on twitter as being the voice of the general fan base, is absurd. Most levelheaded Rangers fans I know, or coverse with on here, are not planning any sort of parades.

Anyone with two good eyes that see can determine that last night's game was an old fashioned shootout that could have went either way. The Islanders are a very good team and the Rangers had to bring their game, to another gear, in order to squeak one out.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:21 PM ET



Once teams get to the point, where they consistently make the playoffs, that statement, while you're mocking it, is pretty much true. The Islanders are about ready to go on a run where they are going to make the playoffs every year, and believe me, you will come to accept that statement as the truth. Because it's hard to get to excited about regular season losses once your team becomes a regular participant in the playoffs (unless you are at risk of missing). Do you think the early 80s Islanders gave a rat's ass about regular season losses?

Everybody just needs to calm down, stop feeling so aggrieved by the other team's fanbase, and spark one up or something.

- Pete V

I agree with the last sentence but disagree with just about everything else in this post. If you don't think the 80's Islanders cared about regular season games against the Rangers and vice versa you're completely wrong. Also can say that for today as well and tack both fan bases on to that equation as well. You make it sound like none of us have experienced a team going to the playoffs so we wouldn't know . Rivalry games are just that and if you think Ranger fans are acting any less boisterous after winning last night than Islander fans did when we won due to their playoff experience I don't know what to tell you
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
Isles have blown leads in several recent games and having Viz, Strait and Hickey as half the defense corp does show eventually as they got worn down later in the game. Both teams played hard and the top forwards on both teams contributed big time for their team. Bailey's post ringer could have taken them to OT but overall the Rangers just kept coming on and the Isles Boychuk goal may have held them off a bit longer. For the Isles Strome's play of late shows his maturity and sooner or later Nelson will come out of it but the high speed game is still something he needs to adjust to. The Isles fourth line was hurtin' and they were a big factor in the previous three games. Ranger fans have to feel good because this was a big four point game that tied them with the Pens and overtaking the Isles is a big possibility now.

As an Isles fan I know we can play hard against the Rangers but MTL has proven they can really handle our team.

The loss was tough but if we went 5-0 against them, this as a playoff loss was a bigger possibility. Rangers are an awesome team and we need to play team D the way they can if we want to win in the PO's.

- Fan101


Leddy, Boychuk and Hamonic are a strong top three on the blueline. The bottom three though leave a lot to be desired. I think Hickey is alright and obviously deHaan returning will be a big help but Visnovsky and Strait really aren't that good.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
Considering I was sitting in the stands when Parise scored in 75, I don't need to be told by you what reg season games mean. The truth of the matter is, lines like that are only used by the team that lost, being a reg in the playoffs has nothing to do with it.

And yes, the 80s Isles did give a rats ass which is why they won so damn much. You should try it.

- islander4cups

Didn't you know. you'll realize now that we make the playoffs. All of these things will become clear for all of us
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
Didn't you know. you'll realize now that we make the playoffs. All of these things will become clear for all of us
- Cptmjl


They will. And your overly developed little brother complex may decrease as well.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
Leddy, Boychuk and Hamonic are a strong top three on the blueline. The bottom three though leave a lot to be desired. I think Hickey is alright and obviously deHaan returning will be a big help but Visnovsky and Strait really aren't that good.
- MidnightMarauder

I agree and i'd tack hickey on that list. Hickey, DeHaan, and vis have taken a step back lately. Visnovsky was so strong before his injury but he's been borderline brutal at times lately.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
I agree and i'd tack hickey on that list. Hickey, DeHaan, and vis have taken a step back lately. Visnovsky was so strong before his injury but he's been borderline brutal at times lately.
- Cptmjl



Hickey is a decent depth defensemen but if he is on your second pair that is something that has to be upgraded and immediately.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:26 PM ET
They will. And your overly developed little brother complex may decrease as well.

- Pete V

Never had one. I'll always react that way when someone talks to me in a condescending fashion. I like you man but i certainly don't need anyone telling me how it's going to be when the Islanders start making the playoffs and how I'm going to feel or think when I've probably been to more playoff games than most of your thread. I guarantee I've seen more Stanley cup final series than any Ranger fan on here.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:27 PM ET
Hickey is a decent depth defensemen but if he is on your second pair that is something that has to be upgraded and immediately.
- MidnightMarauder

He's been a bottom pair for us since our brilliant coach thinks Brian Strait deserves over 20 minutes a night. Hickey hasn't warranted that time either in all honesty and neither has Vis. I'd rather all three of them get limited ice time but Capuano like dividing it up pretty evenly and hey we are 1st in the division so what the hell do i know?
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
Never had one. I'll always react that way when someone talks to me in a condescending fashion. I like you man but i certainly don't need anyone telling me how it's going to be when the Islanders start making the playoffs and how I'm going to feel when I've probably been to more playoff games than most of your thread. I guarantee I've seen more Stanley cup final series than any Ranger fan on here.
- Cptmjl



If you were more than a bouncing baby, on your daddy's knee during the early 80s, then yes you have seen more finals, with your team in it, than most Rangers fans have. I was born the year they lost to Montreal in the finals.

Only old enough to see two Rangers Stanley Cup finals appearances so far.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
He's been a bottom pair for us since our brilliant coach thinks Brian Strait deserves over 20 minutes a night. Hickey hasn't warranted that time either in all honesty and neither has Vis. I'd rather all three of them get limited ice time but Capuano like dividing it up pretty evenly and hey we are 1st in the division so what the hell do i know?
- Cptmjl


Sekera interest you?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
Never had one. I'll always react that way when someone talks to me in a condescending fashion. I like you man but i certainly don't need anyone telling me how it's going to be when the Islanders start making the playoffs and how I'm going to feel when I've probably been to more playoff games than most of your thread. I guarantee I've seen more Stanley cup final series than any Ranger fan on here.
- Cptmjl


I think the Captain doth protests too much.

And, you've been to a lot of Islanders playoff games? Do you have the Betamax tapes, so I can see as well.


You wanted hug it out, or we going to continue with this? Just take the last shot and were done.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:34 PM ET
If you were more than a bouncing baby, on your daddy's knee during the early 80s, then yes you have seen more finals, with your team in it, than most Rangers fans have. I was born the year they lost to Montreal in the finals.

Only old enough to see two Rangers Stanley Cup finals appearances so far.

- MidnightMarauder

I was a kid but I was alive and been a legitimate hockey fan since the late 70's. I say legitimate bcs even though I was a fan in the mid 70's I didn't have a clue what was going on. Thankfully i was old and mature enough to enjoy the early eighties as an Islander fan and there's a few of us on here so when someone tells how we are going to think and feel when our little team makes it to the playoffs it gets real tiring real quick.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:35 PM ET
I think the Captain doth protests too much.

And, you've been to a lot of Islanders playoff games? Do you have the Betamax tapes, so I can see as well.


You wanted hug it out, or we going to continue with this? Just take the last shot and were done.

- Pete V

I told you i liked the last part of your post and that was it. The part about sparking one up.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
I was a kid but I was alive and been a legitimate hockey fan since the late 70's. I say legitimate bcs even though I was a fan in the mid 70's I didn't have a clue what was going on. Thankfully i was old and mature enough to enjoy the early eighties as an Islander fan and there's a few of us on here so when someone tells how we are going to think and feel when our little team makes it to the playoffs it gets real tiring real quick.
- Cptmjl


It's going to feel great when you cute little frankers make the playoffs.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:37 PM ET
Sekera interest you?
- MidnightMarauder

Yeah i just think he'll be pricey. We don't need to give up our future the window isn't closing for us for a while IMO. We have some time we don't need to go all in for this season hoping some magic happens for us.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 17 @ 1:38 PM ET
It's going to feel great when you cute little frankers make the playoffs.

- Pete V

MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Feb 17 @ 1:41 PM ET
Yeah i just think he'll be pricey. We don't need to give up our future the window isn't closing for us for a while IMO. We have some time we don't need to go all in for this season hoping some magic happens for us.
- Cptmjl



If they can re-sign Boychuk and Leddy to long term deals, if Halak holds up for the majority of his contract and players like Reinhart and Pulock become full time NHLers, the window is pretty wide.
islander4cups
New York Islanders
Location: United States, VA
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
On your first point, the Islanders get away with their fair share against the Rangers. I seem to recall Matt Martin slashing Stepan's hand, in the 3-0 Islanders win, where Stepan was forced to sit the rest of the game out and missed one or two games after that.

No call.

Don't mistake my Rangers fandom with being a homer. I am aware they get away with some calls every now and then, just like every team does. The NHL officials are some of the worst in professional sports and calls are going to be missed more than any fan would like to see.

On your second point, associating Rangers fans on twitter as being the voice of the general fan base, is absurd. Most levelheaded Rangers fans I know, or coverse with on here, are not planning any sort of parades.

Anyone with two good eyes that see can determine that last night's game was an old fashioned shootout that could have went either way. The Islanders are a very good team and the Rangers had to bring their game, to another gear, in order to squeak one out
.

- MidnightMarauder


Except even Stepan said he wasn't slashed by Martin. Otherwise you might have a point. Agree with what you said in bold. However, it aint just on twitter. Its in here too.
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