haha no my good man, feel free to continue it here. I will talk comics all day if I can. But for now, I wasn't kidding, I'm going to the record store.
- James_Tanner

Went to the record store the other day:
Minor Threat:Minor Threat
Black Sabbath: Heaven and Hell
Black Sabbath: Mob Rules
Motorhead: Iron Fist
Radio head : in Rainbows
The Pogues: Pogutry in Motion
Rush: a Farewell to Kings
SNFU: If you swear you'll catch no fish
Patti Smith: Horses
A Wilhelm Scream: Party Crasher



Not a bad haul for a weekend....some good bargains in there too

Went to the record store the other day:
Minor Threat:Minor Threat
Black Sabbath: Heaven and Hell
Black Sabbath: Mob Rules
Motorhead: Iron Fist
Radio head : in Rainbows
The Pogues: Pogutry in Motion
Rush: a Farewell to Kings
SNFU: If you swear you'll catch no fish
Patti Smith: Horses
A Wilhelm Scream: Party Crasher



Not a bad haul for a weekend....some good bargains in there too
- Jeropotato

That is a pretty electric and interesting selection. The Patty Smith record is probably one of the best albums I don't actually own, and obviosouly all of those are pretty sweet, even if Motorhead is not for me.

I have never heard of the last one, i'll check it out.

I never got my Drake cd by the way, the stupid idiots only released it to itunes and who knows when they'll actually physically release a copy. Oh internet, so much good, so so very much bad.

I appreciate you giving your opinion on why you think one of the leagues best goaltender is overrated but I of course and obviously disagree. I don't think you can call a goaltender who's record is 33-7-2 after 42 games played overrated. Oh, and he was out for two weeks and STILL leads the league in wins. Disregard the fact that he plays in front of one of the best defenses in the league and one of the main reasons the Preds are where they are is because of Rinne. Those aren't biased opinions, those are facts. Without Rinne, they're probably in the same position the Coyotes are in. Bottom of the conference.
- predfan82

It all comes down to an old Bill Clinton quote "I guess that depends on what the definition of overrated is."

Exactly what I thought, James.

Rinne is overrated because he plays in front of the defense you also think is overrated. Which is it, man? Your logic is flawed.

James, did you catch any of the Preds/Sharks game tonight? So many overrated saves.

It all comes down to an old Bill Clinton quote "I guess that depends on what the definition of overrated is."
- James_Tanner

Says the guy who loves Alex Ovechkin.

I appreciate you giving your opinion on why you think one of the leagues best goaltender is overrated but I of course and obviously disagree. I don't think you can call a goaltender who's record is 33-7-2 after 42 games played overrated. Oh, and he was out for two weeks and STILL leads the league in wins. Disregard the fact that he plays in front of one of the best defenses in the league and one of the main reasons the Preds are where they are is because of Rinne. Those aren't biased opinions, those are facts. Without Rinne, they're probably in the same position the Coyotes are in. Bottom of the conference.
- predfan82

Meh.

Tanner calls it out of the box thinking. I prefer the term incorrect.

weber is all world. As is rinne.

Not much else to be said.

That was not a joke. I consider Drake to be nearly on par with Kanye, St.Vincent, Vampire Weekend, Arcade Fire and Radiohead - basically some of the most important artists of our our time.


And, can I just say that all those video clips are awesome and are easily the top five comments ever posted on HockeyBuzz.
- James_Tanner

Preface: I assume by "our time" you mean the 21st century. Correct me if I'm wrong.

(frank). That. Noise. I'll give you Kanye and Radiohead as influential and therefore "important", but those others?

The indy movement, while certainly notable, doesn't touch the impacts artists like Eminem (opened up rap culture to "whities" such as myself), Blink 182 (popularized the initial rise of "counter culture"), Rise Against (if we're gonna talk about message-filled music), and- god forbid I say this- Skrillex (I hate his music but one can't argue his impact was substantial) had on modern music.

The only thing I could possibly attribute to Arcade Fire to consider them impactful was the size of their group (relatively speaking) and the uniqueness of some of their instrumental choices.

I don't even know how you could possibly justify Vampire Weekend or St. Vincent's inclusions.

Preface: I assume by "our time" you mean the 21st century. Correct me if I'm wrong.

(frank). That. Noise. I'll give you Kanye and Radiohead as influential and therefore "important", but those others?

The indy movement, while certainly notable, doesn't touch the impacts artists like Eminem (opened up rap culture to "whities" such as myself), Blink 182 (popularized the initial rise of "counter culture"), Rise Against (if we're gonna talk about message-filled music), and- god forbid I say this- Skrillex (I hate his music but one can't argue his impact was substantial) had on modern music.

The only thing I could possibly attribute to Arcade Fire to consider them impactful was the size of their group (relatively speaking) and the uniqueness of some of their instrumental choices.

I don't even know how you could possibly justify Vampire Weekend or St. Vincent's inclusions.
- MaximumBone

I'm not sure you can really call Blink 182 a product of the 21st century as they were all but washed up by like 2003. Rise Against is great, but is pretty close to a modern day copy of Bad Religion. The rest of your mentions (especially Eminem) are pretty spot on, though I might add a few.

Preface: I assume by "our time" you mean the 21st century. Correct me if I'm wrong.

(frank). That. Noise. I'll give you Kanye and Radiohead as influential and therefore "important", but those others?

The indy movement, while certainly notable, doesn't touch the impacts artists like Eminem (opened up rap culture to "whities" such as myself), Blink 182 (popularized the initial rise of "counter culture"), Rise Against (if we're gonna talk about message-filled music), and- god forbid I say this- Skrillex (I hate his music but one can't argue his impact was substantial) had on modern music.

The only thing I could possibly attribute to Arcade Fire to consider them impactful was the size of their group (relatively speaking) and the uniqueness of some of their instrumental choices.

I don't even know how you could possibly justify Vampire Weekend or St. Vincent's inclusions.
- MaximumBone

Tiesto could be included with Skrillex (god damn i hate that dot-matrix printer sex music). I'm surprised you didn't include Rage Against the Machine in there.

Arcade Fire is meh. No idea why Vampire Weekend is so popular and I have never heard St.Vincent before.

Drake's a joke. And as much of a flake Kanye is, he is a huge influence and the guy knows how to write lyrics.

Preface: I assume by "our time" you mean the 21st century. Correct me if I'm wrong.

(frank). That. Noise. I'll give you Kanye and Radiohead as influential and therefore "important", but those others?

The indy movement, while certainly notable, doesn't touch the impacts artists like Eminem (opened up rap culture to "whities" such as myself), Blink 182 (popularized the initial rise of "counter culture"), Rise Against (if we're gonna talk about message-filled music), and- god forbid I say this- Skrillex (I hate his music but one can't argue his impact was substantial) had on modern music.

The only thing I could possibly attribute to Arcade Fire to consider them impactful was the size of their group (relatively speaking) and the uniqueness of some of their instrumental choices.

I don't even know how you could possibly justify Vampire Weekend or St. Vincent's inclusions.
- MaximumBone

Here is the thing: I don't care how many records a band sells. Particularly now when its impossible for anyone but teen-poppers to reach the heights that bands like Blink 182 (the Maroon 5 of punk btw) or Eminem (two good albums, three if your're generous and then one of the worst falls from grace in musical history) reached.

I just don't think you have the chops to talk about this subject. The reason I included those bands has nothing to do with how many nerds buy their records - it's based on artistic integrity. Vampire Weekend has an album that ranks with the all-time greats in musical history. ST. VIncent is one of the most important - if not THE - most important artist currently making music - partly because it's original, but mostly its just really good.

As for Arcade Fire? The guys who gave us the Suburbs, Funeral and Neon Bible ? Three masterpieces that define the new millennium. Since most bands don't make one masterpiece, let alone three, they must be ranked with peers like Dylan, Zeppelin, REM, Nirvana etc. They are all-time greats.

Anyways, it all comes down to the music. Writing a great album is all that matters.

I'm not sure you can really call Blink 182 a product of the 21st century as they were all but washed up by like 2003. Rise Against is great, but is pretty close to a modern day copy of Bad Religion. The rest of your mentions (especially Eminem) are pretty spot on, though I might add a few.
- Sandus

They weren't spot-on at all. This guy is mixing up commercial success with artistic success. Eminem is like a rapping Foo-Fighter. He has all the artistic credibility of Miley Cyrus.

Tiesto could be included with Skrillex (god damn i hate that dot-matrix printer sex music). I'm surprised you didn't include Rage Against the Machine in there.

Arcade Fire is meh. No idea why Vampire Weekend is so popular and I have never heard St.Vincent before.

Drake's a joke. And as much of a flake Kanye is, he is a huge influence and the guy knows how to write lyrics.
- ChetManly

I could make fun of your commenting on things when you havne't even heard of /listened to them, but I would rather point out that you shouldn't say "meh"

Here is the thing: I don't care how many records a band sells. Particularly now when its impossible for anyone but teen-poppers to reach the heights that bands like Blink 182 (the Maroon 5 of punk btw) or Eminem (two good albums, three if your're generous and then one of the worst falls from grace in musical history) reached.

I just don't think you have the chops to talk about this subject. The reason I included those bands has nothing to do with how many nerds buy their records - it's based on artistic integrity. Vampire Weekend has an album that ranks with the all-time greats in musical history. ST. VIncent is one of the most important - if not THE - most important artist currently making music - partly because it's original, but mostly its just really good.

As for Arcade Fire? The guys who gave us the Suburbs, Funeral and Neon Bible ? Three masterpieces that define the new millennium. Since most bands don't make one masterpiece, let alone three, they must be ranked with peers like Dylan, Zeppelin, REM, Nirvana etc. They are all-time greats.

Anyways, it all comes down to the music. Writing a great album is all that matters.
- James_Tanner

You're full of yourself.....how you "rank" or "rate" an album has little more to do with anything other your tastes and opinions. Basically, you like it or you don't and neither holds any weight when compiling a definitive list of the greatest bands/albums/songs of all time.

The greatest bands/musicians/artists of all time do all or some of these things......

1. Influence and inspire other artists. Too many to list but one that comes to mind is Black Sabbath. Whether you like Metal or not a lot of really talented and creative people do and they all trace their influences back to Sabbath.

2. Become the gateway to an entire new or previously ignored form of music or genre. Bob Marley and the Sex Pistols both played this role for me at some point in my life.
3. Stand the test of time. I'm shocked that 20 years later people still like those grunge albums , but that's just my opinion and tastes .....but nothing can escape this test. If 10 yrs later it isn't very good.....it isn't very good.

But James your just saying it's so because you like it, and are claiming to be an authority on the subject telling readers they "don't have the chops" for this discussion. I've met a million music Nazis that claim to know what's good and what isn't and each and every one of them miss the point about music ( and art in general).
In its purest form of appreciation, you don't get to decide what you like and don't like, music grabs you, speaks to you and makes you feel a certain way, and no two people feel the same.
so like what you like, make fun of what you don't, but don't try to be the authorities voice on the quality of music, you just come of as a Jabroni.

You're full of yourself.....how you "rank" or "rate" an album has little more to do with anything other your tastes and opinions. Basically, you like it or you don't and neither holds any weight when compiling a definitive list of the greatest bands/albums/songs of all time.

The greatest bands/musicians/artists of all time do all or some of these things......

1. Influence and inspire other artists. Too many to list but one that comes to mind is Black Sabbath. Whether you like Metal or not a lot of really talented and creative people do and they all trace their influences back to Sabbath.

2. Become the gateway to an entire new or previously ignored form of music or genre. Bob Marley and the Sex Pistols both played this role for me at some point in my life.
3. Stand the test of time. I'm shocked that 20 years later people still like those grunge albums , but that's just my opinion and tastes .....but nothing can escape this test. If 10 yrs later it isn't very good.....it isn't very good.

But James your just saying it's so because you like it, and are claiming to be an authority on the subject telling readers they "don't have the chops" for this discussion. I've met a million music Nazis that claim to know what's good and what isn't and each and every one of them miss the point about music ( and art in general).
In its purest form of appreciation, you don't get to decide what you like and don't like, music grabs you, speaks to you and makes you feel a certain way, and no two people feel the same.
so like what you like, make fun of what you don't, but don't try to be the authorities voice on the quality of music, you just come of as a Jabroni.
- Jeropotato

Sorry dude, you're opinion is only as valid as you are informed. So, for instance, Arcade Fire's Funeral, released in 2005 now has a decade of being considered one of the greatest albums of all time.

And sorry, but anyone questioning the Vampire Weekend doesn't have the chops to talk music. You might not like them, but if you are informed enough to talk about the most important acts of the decade, you have to know them and acknowledge their influence and importance.

Or you can just discredit 50+ years of music critiquing, like you seem to be trying to do.

Sorry dude, you're opinion is only as valid as you are informed. So, for instance, Arcade Fire's Funeral, released in 2005 now has a decade of being considered one of the greatest albums of all time.

And sorry, but anyone questioning the Vampire Weekend doesn't have the chops to talk music. You might not like them, but if you are informed enough to talk about the most important acts of the decade, you have to know them and acknowledge their influence and importance.

Or you can just discredit 50+ years of music critiquing, like you seem to be trying to do.
- James_Tanner

If you don't agree with me then you're not informed or smart enough to understand.






What a douche

Sorry dude, you're opinion is only as valid as you are informed. So, for instance, Arcade Fire's Funeral, released in 2005 now has a decade of being considered one of the greatest albums of all time.

And sorry, but anyone questioning the Vampire Weekend doesn't have the chops to talk music. You might not like them, but if you are informed enough to talk about the most important acts of the decade, you have to know them and acknowledge their influence and importance.

Or you can just discredit 50+ years of music critiquing, like you seem to be trying to do.
- James_Tanner

You have 50+ years of music critiquing? Or are you just passing on others opinions?

Also, who gives a poop about a music critics and their opinions? Be original, rock to what grabs you. Also, be open minded because there are things you don't care for now that you might fall in love with later in life.

If you don't agree with me then you're not informed or smart enough to understand.






What a douche
- Ihateallofu

Dropping the 50+ years of music critiques is weak...."_________ is amazing because all the cool music magazines say so"

Baaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Dropping the 50+ years of music critiques is weak...."_________ is amazing because all the cool music magazines say so"

Baaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaa, Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa
- Jeropotato

Once again, you have twisted my words and taken what I've said all the wrong way.

Once again, you have twisted my words and taken what I've said all the wrong way.
- James_Tanner

I have read enough of your music crap to know you have zero value in others tastes or opinions...and you seem to try to find some way to prove that one band is better than another as though it is a fact and not just an opinion.

I also get a feeling that you think you know a lot about music, when in reality you have only listened or even heard a very small % of the music released in the mainstream or underground in the last 50-75 years.

Sorry dude, you're opinion is only as valid as you are informed. So, for instance, Arcade Fire's Funeral, released in 2005 now has a decade of being considered one of the greatest albums of all time.

And sorry, but anyone questioning the Vampire Weekend doesn't have the chops to talk music. You might not like them, but if you are informed enough to talk about the most important acts of the decade, you have to know them and acknowledge their influence and importance.

Or you can just discredit 50+ years of music critiquing, like you seem to be trying to do.
- James_Tanner

Right...you basically have been calling people stupid or ignorant who don't agree with you - on multiple topics. Yesterday, you said that Pekka Rinne was overrated because he has a good defense in front of him. Then you went on to call the Preds' Defense overrated. Which is it? As someone who openly lectures others about their incompetence, surely the irony of your own simplistic contradiction about Rinne & the Preds is not lost on you, right?

The crazy thing is, I don't disagree with you about Funeral being in the top 40-50 albums of all time. But that doesn't mean that intelligent, informed people can't disagree about a topic. I'm all for passionate arguments about everything from Hockey to Music. But there is no reason to be dismissive to people who've taken the time to read & comment on your blogs - as if they can't possibly know as much (or more) about a given topic than you. Just because someone doesn't share your view, doesn't mean they are uninformed.

Right...you basically have been calling people stupid or ignorant who don't agree with you - on multiple topics. Yesterday, you said that Pekka Rinne was overrated because he has a good defense in front of him. Then you went on to call the Preds' Defense overrated. Which is it? As someone who openly lectures others about their incompetence, surely the irony of your own simplistic contradiction about Rinne & the Preds is not lost on you, right?

The crazy thing is, I don't disagree with you about Funeral being in the top 40-50 albums of all time. But that doesn't mean that intelligent, informed people can't disagree about a topic. I'm all for passionate arguments about everything from Hockey to Music. But there is no reason to be dismissive to people who've taken the time to read & comment on your blogs - as if they can't possibly know as much (or more) about a given topic than you. Just because someone doesn't share your view, doesn't mean they are uninformed.
- holycow_75

Exactly. On the topic of music he is completely dismissive of things he doesn't understand or hasn't been exposed to. He thinks he knows it all, but even if he did nothing but listened to 5 new or previously un heard albums a day for the better part of his lifetime he only scratched of what's out there. For the most part he looks to professional critics opinions to validate why he likes a band or album. Music critics reports on music basically follow a formula, and even then it still touches a part of the brain that responds with "like" or " dislike". There is a scientifically proven formula that certain sounds in sequence touch the masses in a favourable way, and this formula in generally used by the top music producers to generate hits.

I could make fun of your commenting on things when you havne't even heard of /listened to them, but I would rather point out that you shouldn't say "meh"
- James_Tanner

Everything about your reply points to confusion. Why should you make fun of me? And is "meh" some sort of horrific racial slur?

And, jus for clarification, because you apparently require it, did I make fun of vampire weekend or st. vincents?

I guess I should be saying this: "Oh James, I'm sorry I don't have the same taste in music as you. I guess I'm a lesser human being with very weak intelligence for not seeing the same things as you."

FFS. I guess that means that I could make fun of you for not realizing the history of EDM or the transition of house music from disco, etc, all because you didn't make any comment towards any of that in your comments.

Sorry dude, you're opinion is only as valid as you are informed. So, for instance, Arcade Fire's Funeral, released in 2005 now has a decade of being considered one of the greatest albums of all time.

And sorry, but anyone questioning the Vampire Weekend doesn't have the chops to talk music. You might not like them, but if you are informed enough to talk about the most important acts of the decade, you have to know them and acknowledge their influence and importance.

Or you can just discredit 50+ years of music critiquing, like you seem to be trying to do.
- James_Tanner

Bold) Funny, how come it's never mentioned with the likes of Queen, Beatles, Michael Jackson, Nirvana and their albums that are the greatest albums of all time?

Paragraph 2) WTF are you talking about? you sound like a 13 year old girl that is obsessed with Justin Beiber.

Paragraph 3) where did you get 50+ of music critiquing from? Are you some sort of ageless wonder?

Here is the thing: I don't care how many records a band sells. Particularly now when its impossible for anyone but teen-poppers to reach the heights that bands like Blink 182 (the Maroon 5 of punk btw) or Eminem (two good albums, three if your're generous and then one of the worst falls from grace in musical history) reached.

I just don't think you have the chops to talk about this subject. The reason I included those bands has nothing to do with how many nerds buy their records - it's based on artistic integrity. Vampire Weekend has an album that ranks with the all-time greats in musical history. ST. VIncent is one of the most important - if not THE - most important artist currently making music - partly because it's original, but mostly its just really good.

As for Arcade Fire? The guys who gave us the Suburbs, Funeral and Neon Bible ? Three masterpieces that define the new millennium. Since most bands don't make one masterpiece, let alone three, they must be ranked with peers like Dylan, Zeppelin, REM, Nirvana etc. They are all-time greats.

Anyways, it all comes down to the music. Writing a great album is all that matters.
- James_Tanner

But there's the issue; when discussing "importance" and as you brought up later "influence", one HAS to consider album sales. By the very nature of the word "influence", it needs to have affected a vast number of people. Again, I was willing to give you Arcade Fire's influence, but I'll be damned if Vampire Weekend or St. Vincent makes any list over an Eminem when comparing influence.

If you want to discuss musical merit then "importance" and "influence" are far from the ideal words to use.