Nope. When he was moved off that line(for mailing it in and being lazy in the defensive/ neutral zone) he was absolutely worthless and had a negative effect overall on the team. That is 100% why Snow considered him not part of the core and why he was traded.
- Cptmjl

Just took a peek at his stats, did not have as bad a year as i thought last year. 11g 44gp for the sabres, 23g overall. Also a year where hodgson had 20g..

Yea, 5 years for moulson is hefty. I believe him and kessel to be on totally different levels though. Has moulson gotten it done anywhere besides tavares' wing?
- ieetbred

He had 11 goals in 44 games last year (20.5 goal pace) on our historically bad team last year

I don't get much often but I heard that from 2 people I trust and one that I don't. The one I don't trust told me before the other two. And no they don't know each other.

Like I said IMO it has/had legs.
- dadeadhead

I gotcha. I was comfortable with okposo as a fringe 2nd line player or a great 3rd liner which was what he was looking like he'd be but most Islander fans were distraught bcs of the draft position and expectations they had for him. Then we played the Pens that series and his game just took off. Before that series though it wouldn't overly shock me. Times have certainly changed.

Just took a peek at his stats, did not have as bad a year as i thought last year. 11g 44gp for the sabres, 23g overall. Also a year where hodgson had 20g..
- ieetbred

Not sure where he has played with you guys honestly or the jump in talent from line to line just speaking from my own experience watching him as an Islander. Was never a fan.

I gotcha. I was comfortable with okposo as a fringe 2nd line player or a great 3rd liner which was what he was looking like he'd be but most Islander fans were distraught bcs of the draft position and expectations they had for him. Then we played the Pens that series and his game just took off. Before that series though it wouldn't overly shock me. Times have certainly changed.
- Cptmjl

Always like the player.

I remember some here wanted nothing to do with the deal.

I was all for it.

At the time they were similar players. Okposo was younger, cheaper, and signed longer. IMO he took longer to recover from that shoulder injury.

Not sure where he has played with you guys honestly or the jump in talent from line to line just speaking from my own experience watching him as an Islander. Was never a fan.
- Cptmjl

To my knowledge he has played mostly with ennis, who is no tavares but a very good player in his own right.

This season is just a mess everywhere, he is a part of it. Hodgson scored 20g last season. I feel like on most nights some of our 'vets' simply arent interested and he falls in that category.

Myers was their main focus, so who knows.
- sippyd

Not sure that is true. Murray said that Myers was added at the last minute and the guy they asked for was Lemieux. But no one will ever know if it would have happened.

To my knowledge he has played mostly with ennis, who is no tavares but a very good player in his own right.

This season is just a mess everywhere, he is a part of it. Hodgson scored 20g last season. I feel like on most nights some of our 'vets' simply arent interested and he falls in that category.
- ieetbred

Having watched nearly every game this year, a part of me will always believe that certain players deliberately did not give anything close to 100%. The exceptions would be the goalies, Ennis, Stewart and only a few others.

Having watched nearly every game this year, a part of me will always believe that certain players deliberately did not give anything close to 100%. The exceptions would be the goalies, Ennis, Stewart and only a few others.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Up until the last 25 games, Stewart was his typical enigma self. i wouldn't put him with that group.

Always like the player.

I remember some here wanted nothing to do with the deal.

I was all for it.

At the time they were similar players. Okposo was younger, cheaper, and signed longer. IMO he took longer to recover from that shoulder injury.
- dadeadhead

Yeah that's one of the theories on Okposo. It could also be he just took longer to develop. We were also a crap team with little depth and he wasn't playing with Tavares regularly until the last 2 seasons. He had some success with Nielsen and Grabner/Bailey. Like I said I was fine with him in a 2nd line role he just didn't fit that 1st line power fwd description at all. He got separated from the puck with ease and couldn't stay on his skates. Everything(his play) changed that series literally after he beat the piss out of Niskanen at center ice after we got shelled the previous game. The whole momentum changed(we made it a series) with that fight and his play has been great since.

To my knowledge he has played mostly with ennis, who is no tavares but a very good player in his own right.

This season is just a mess everywhere, he is a part of it. Hodgson scored 20g last season. I feel like on most nights some of our 'vets' simply arent interested and he falls in that category.
- ieetbred

This is a bad year to judge many on this team, but saying that, you can't just pick his best year and say he is great either. I would say now that he is a little disinterested, like the rest of the players that are signed after this year. Not the right attitude, but as a sabres fan I want to keep losing this year, so I am willing to look past it. Sad, unforgettable two years for sabres fans, but in a few years all we will remember is reinhart, mcdavid/eichel. Which is what that long term plan was about of course.

This is a bad year to judge many on this team, but saying that, you can't just pick his best year and say he is great either. I would say now that he is a little disinterested, like the rest of the players that are signed after this year. Not the right attitude, but as a sabres fan I want to keep losing this year, so I am willing to look past it. Sad, unforgettable two years for sabres fans, but in a few years all we will remember is reinhart, mcdavid/eichel. Which is what that long term plan was about of course.
- Lilroot9

I am all about mcdavid/eichel. Doesnt excuse a player who has proven to put up 20g a year no matter who is playing with to be having this type of season.

To my knowledge he has played mostly with ennis, who is no tavares but a very good player in his own right.

This season is just a mess everywhere, he is a part of it. Hodgson scored 20g last season. I feel like on most nights some of our 'vets' simply arent interested and he falls in that category.
- ieetbred

I hear you. Like I said was never a fan of moulson which anyone from my thread could attest too. I was just happy to see him go and not be resigned. I don't like one trick pony hockey players unless they do that one "trick" really well. Moulson didn't. He was also such a defensive liability for us at times. I couldn't stomach his lack of effort especially for a guy who was picked off the trash heap like he was. Maybe he'll get better for you guys if he can find some chemistry with a center maybe Mcdavid and as you guys get more competitive?

Up until the last 25 games, Stewart was his typical enigma self. i wouldn't put him with that group.
- dadeadhead

True. But I see him getting at least one breakaway or near breakaway a period. On a team were we are lucky to enter the zone and complete 2 passes ever. I just see that as a guy just saying F the system, give me the puck and let me try to make anything happen.

Yeah that's one of the theories on Okposo. It could also be he just took longer to develop. We were also a crap team with little depth and he wasn't playing with Tavares regularly until the last 2 seasons. He had some success with Nielsen and Grabner/Bailey. Like I said I was fine with him in a 2nd line role he just didn't fit that 1st line power fwd description at all. He got separated from the puck with ease and couldn't stay on his skates. Everything(his play) changed that series literally after he beat the piss out of Niskanen at center ice after we got shelled the previous game. The whole momentum changed(we made it a series) with that fight and his play has been great since.
- Cptmjl

I thought he was coming into his own at 22 (his 52 point season), then the shoulder thing came up and he just wasn't the same for almost 3 years. He did have a 45 point year sandwiched between the injury and strike year but he just wasn't the same. Again IMO.

Up until the last 25 games, Stewart was his typical enigma self. i wouldn't put him with that group.
- dadeadhead

Neither would i despite wanting to resign him. I would be thrilled to overpay to get him on 2 year deal. Something like 2 years 10 mil.

I hear you. Like I said was never a fan of moulson which anyone from my thread could attest too. I was just happy to see him go and not be resigned. I don't like one trick pony hockey players unless they do that one "trick" really well. Moulson didn't. He was also such a defensive liability for us at times. I couldn't stomach his lack of effort especially for a guy who was picked off the trash heap like he was. Maybe he'll get better for you guys if he can find some chemistry with a center maybe Mcdavid and as you guys get more competitive?
- Cptmjl

I believe that to be the plan when murray resigned him. Draft the generational player, add talent, slide moulson down the lineup. He is a solid player IMO just having been sucked into the vacuum that is this sabres season.

I thought he was coming into his own at 22 (his 52 point season), then the shoulder thing came up and he just wasn't the same for almost 3 years. He did have a 45 point year sandwiched between the injury and strike year but he just wasn't the same. Again IMO.
- dadeadhead

He showed flashes of being good but never the kind of play you see now. There was never any consistency and he was just weak on the puck bounced around the line up. Got a few shots on the top line and didn't look good that's one of the reasons why I conceded to him being a decent 2nd/great 3rd line fwd. He actually despised being referred to as a power fwd and some press/fans heaped the Iginla description on him which he publicly despised maybe bcs he took it as being borderline racist . After that series he seemed to embrace the description.

He showed flashes of being good but never the kind of play you see now. There was never any consistency and he was just weak on the puck bounced around the line up. Got a few shots on the top line and didn't look good that's one of the reasons why I conceded to him being a decent 2nd/great 3rd line fwd. He actually despised being referred to as a power fwd and some press/fans heaped the Iginla description on him which he publicly despised maybe bcs he took it as being borderline racist . After that series he seemed to embrace the description.
- Cptmjl

I am all about mcdavid/eichel. Doesnt excuse a player who has proven to put up 20g a year no matter who is playing with to be having this type of season.
- ieetbred

I am not making an excuse, just saying that being on the worst team and having term left on your deal is slowing their current motivation. Would you perform differently if you knew your money was guaranteed for 5 more years and your work wants to fail this year?

DK?

Filed mine 3 weeks ago and still have yet to get them. So I'd guess yes.
- dadeadhead

Both the IRS and NYS has said it will take about 3 weeks to process e-filed tax returns. However, the IRS has been processing them faster than that. I got mine in about a week, as have others.

He showed flashes of being good but never the kind of play you see now. There was never any consistency and he was just weak on the puck bounced around the line up. Got a few shots on the top line and didn't look good that's one of the reasons why I conceded to him being a decent 2nd/great 3rd line fwd. He actually despised being referred to as a power fwd and some press/fans heaped the Iginla description on him which he publicly despised maybe bcs he took it as being borderline racist . After that series he seemed to embrace the description.
- Cptmjl

Moulson excels at the power play and rebounds in front of the net, both of which the current sabres team is horrible at (what are that not horrible at? Lol).

Judge him and Hodgson double time next year if they are both still here.

Both the IRS and NYS has said it will take about 3 weeks to process e-filed tax returns. However, the IRS has been processing them faster than that. I got mine in about a week, as have others.
- buffalofan19

Yeah it took like 10 days for me on the federal.

Moulson excels at the power play and rebounds in front of the net, both of which the current sabres team is horrible at (what are that not horrible at? Lol).

Judge him and Hodgson double time next year if they are both still here.
- Lilroot9

That post was about Okposo.

Yeah it took like 10 days for me on the federal.
- dadeadhead

The IRS usually does process things faster than they say they will. They have a pretty automated system. The states, however, are a crapshoot. NYS is kind of in the middle when it comes to that. Some things they'll process quickly. Others it's slower than molasses.