Cooooongrats

Hey man, you're free to have your opinion and it's cool that you were right, but it doesn't change the fact that you placed indefinite and unwavering judgement on a guy after a whole two weeks on the job (although it was more likely after opening night) and- regardless of how right you were- then decide to use that fact as some sort of validation to lord over someone is hilariously and inherently wrong.

And look at that! You're right about another thing: there really ARE some scholars on this site! Here's your (frank)ing award so you don't bring it up in two years time:


- MaximumBone

Yea you clearly have no (frank)ing clue. Go read another blog about advanced stats and poopty opinions to form your opinion.

i actually understand the game so I'll form my opinons on what's actually happening, not over other peoples opinions because you're too stupid to form your own.

You just parrot the same old bullpoop arguments that you hear from other people, then want to feel like you actually know what you're talking about.

No friction. It's lack of chemistry and he knows it.

That's what guys like Brownlee, Spector, etc like to forget when they write about him being a bust
- ystoil

When Yakupov flees the NHL after not being able to produce, that's when he can be labeled a 'bust'. Until then, the 21 year old NHL player that has a rocky start to his career obviously still needs time to adjust and get back his confidence. and Nelson has done a great job so far of getting him back on track.

I can't stand reading Brownlee's garbage articles.

You trade him for Fuccale, Emelin and a 2nd.

Cooooongrats

Hey man, you're free to have your opinion and it's cool that you were right, but it doesn't change the fact that you placed indefinite and unwavering judgement on a guy after a whole two weeks on the job (although it was more likely after opening night) and- regardless of how right you were- then decide to use that fact as some sort of validation to lord over someone is hilariously and inherently wrong.

And look at that! You're right about another thing: there really ARE some scholars on this site! Here's your (frank)ing award so you don't bring it up in two years time:


- MaximumBone

Yeah!!!!!! Don't (frank) with gingers.

Yea you clearly have no (frank)ing clue. Go read another blog about advanced stats and poopty opinions to form your opinion.

i actually understand the game so I'll form my opinons on what's actually happening, not over other peoples opinions because you're too stupid to form your own.

You just parrot the same old bullpoop arguments that you hear from other people, then want to feel like you actually know what you're talking about.
- SpoiledByOil

You actually have him confused with JB.

Yeah!!!!!! Don't (frank) with gingers.
- ruttager17

I wouldn't (frank) a ginger with your Richard....

actually i deleted it because i read it, and it was the same old tired bullpoop that comes from someone who knows nothing about the game and developing players. You're arguments are garbage and hold no water
- SpoiledByOil

Speaking of garbage arguments

Sorry, but no, it wasn't. No matter how much you want to scream "I TOLD YOU SO!" it would've been completely asinine to suggest that, after one month of coaching a 19 year old starting his sophomore season, the coach was stunting his growth. This is especially true when the only piece of evidence of his actual talent level in the NHL was a shortened season where he shot WELL above league average and had a torrid stretch to close out the season. Prior to that stretch, his numbers were frankly quite pedestrian.

To summarize, only an absolute moron could proclaim that it was clearly, evidently, and solely on the recently hired coach who the other high end players were oh so coincidentally having no problem playing under.
- MaximumBone

Just want to touch on a couple things on this post:

While most players were not stunted, that does not mean Eakins was a good coach for yak, which is the main point I think he's making. You could use the Ovechkin and Hunter tandem and see that Ovechkin didn't thrive under that coach regardless of the team. Just like some players don't have chemistry, some player/coach relationships don't. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your post, let me know if I did.

If you remove his hot start at the end of the 2013 year, he still had 25 points in 45 games, which translates to approx 45 points which is in line with Hall, tavares, Duchene, Stamkos, etc.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...22013#&navid=nhl-keymatch

that's his game log for that shortened year. Was he streaky? Yeah sure, but it's not as bad as some make it out to be.

Yeah!!!!!! Don't (frank) with gingers.
- ruttager17

You actually have him confused with JB.
- ruttager17

No I really don't. He just spews the same garbage arguments he hears from other people.

I've been saying he has been handeld wrong since day one, turns out that he's been handeld wrong since day one. It's beyond obvious that he was developed horribly under Eakins.

And now that it's coming out that he wasn't being handled properly under Eakins, that makes me a moron for saying he wasn't being handled properly under Eakins. Am I the only one who sees how (frank)ing stupid that is?

Speaking of garbage arguments
- MaximumBone

So refute it, compare his handling to Gudreaus handling, both having similar struggles early on, who was handled better? And why was said person handled better? Please enlighten me.

Just want to touch on a couple things on this post:

While most players were not stunted, that does not mean Eakins was a good coach for yak, which is the main point I think he's making. You could use the Ovechkin and Hunter tandem and see that Ovechkin didn't thrive under that coach regardless of the team. Just like some players don't have chemistry, some player/coach relationships don't. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your post, let me know if I did.

If you remove his hot start at the end of the 2013 year, he still had 25 points in 45 games, which translates to approx 45 points which is in line with Hall, tavares, Duchene, Stamkos, etc.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...22013#&navid=nhl-keymatch

that's his game log for that shortened year. Was he streaky? Yeah sure, but it's not as bad as some make it out to be.
- ystoil

Every player but Hall stunted, if a slight increase in ppg is all that is considered in a players overall play, then no wonder people can't understand development in Edmonton

Whats wrong Bruce? ??
- HAs_Revenge

Got the hammer for pointing out handjobs mental limits.

Got the hammer for pointing out handjobs mental limits.
- batjester

how long was the hammer?

I wouldn't (frank) a ginger with your Richard....
- HAs_Revenge

Yes you would, liar.

Yea you clearly have no (frank)ing clue. Go read another blog about advanced stats and poopty opinions to form your opinion.

i actually understand the game so I'll form my opinons on what's actually happening, not over other peoples opinions because you're too stupid to form your own.

You just parrot the same old bullpoop arguments that you hear from other people, then want to feel like you actually know what you're talking about.
- SpoiledByOil

Keep it coming. Ad homonym attacks are how I know I succeeded.

Got the hammer for pointing out handjobs mental limits.
- batjester

How long were you gone.

Got the hammer for pointing out handjobs mental limits.
- batjester

How long were you gone.

how long was the hammer?
- ChetManly

Think it was 24 hrs. It was weird since I kept posting Monday night, then tried to post a comment yesterday and got the message.



I'm becoming convinced that Handjob is an alt for one if the bloggers.

Yes you would, liar.
- batjester

Oh... over and over again.

Think it was 24 hrs. It was weird since I kept posting Monday night, then tried to post a comment yesterday and got the message.



I'm becoming convinced that Handjob is an alt for one if the bloggers.
- batjester

Meh. That's not uncommon. I've been banned days later.

Keep it coming. Ad homonym attacks are how I know I succeeded.
- MaximumBone

That's what i thought, no respone, can't refute.

Pretty sure you started with the Ad homonym attacks with your first response and i answered in kind.

If you wanted to actually have a conversation we could have.

Think it was 24 hrs. It was weird since I kept posting Monday night, then tried to post a comment yesterday and got the message.



I'm becoming convinced that Handjob is an alt for one if the bloggers.
- batjester

it has to be someone's alt ref or blogger. that level of derp is astounding.

Meh. That's not uncommon. I've been banned days later.
- HAs_Revenge

I'm just pissed I didn't get my money's worth

Just want to touch on a couple things on this post:

While most players were not stunted, that does not mean Eakins was a good coach for yak, which is the main point I think he's making. You could use the Ovechkin and Hunter tandem and see that Ovechkin didn't thrive under that coach regardless of the team. Just like some players don't have chemistry, some player/coach relationships don't. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your post, let me know if I did.

If you remove his hot start at the end of the 2013 year, he still had 25 points in 45 games, which translates to approx 45 points which is in line with Hall, tavares, Duchene, Stamkos, etc.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/pl...22013#&navid=nhl-keymatch

that's his game log for that shortened year. Was he streaky? Yeah sure, but it's not as bad as some make it out to be.
- ystoil

Fair point at the bottom, but my point to the argument was simply that it was inherently wrong to judge Eakins based solely off a game or two worth of work and subsequently lord the fact that you were right over someone else a year and half after (as seen in the post that sparked the exchange).

It's not that he wasn't right; it's that his approach to and subsequent handling of being right that was and is wrong.