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Forums :: Blog World :: Matt Henderson: G59 Oilers vs Bruins: What To Do With Yakupov
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batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
it has to be someone's alt ref or blogger. that level of derp is astounding.
- ChetManly

I've got money on it being Garth, since he already trolls his fan base
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:36 PM ET
So refute it, compare his handling to Gudreaus handling, both having similar struggles early on, who was handled better? And why was said person handled better? Please enlighten me.
- SpoiledByOil

Refute what? The point you were making about me knowing nothing about hockey? Because, in case you didn't realize, that's what that post was in response to
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:36 PM ET

- ChetManly

This nurse at work just said I'm not a real ginger cause my hair isn't dark enough and I said want me to pull my pants down and show you? ?? So yeah I think I proved it.
batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
And who took the mould of my penis and made it gold??? I want royalties dammit.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:37 PM ET
Fair point at the bottom, but my point to the argument was simply that it was inherently wrong to judge Eakins based solely off a game or two worth of work and subsequently lord the fact that you were right over someone else a year and half after (as seen in the post that sparked the exchange).

It's not that he wasn't right; it's that his approach to and subsequent handling of being right that was and is wrong.

- MaximumBone



no it wasn't wrong at all. But what's the point in even arguing.

i pay attention to other teams, and how they handle strugelling rookies. Calgary with Gudreau was the perfect example, still waiting for you to justify his handling compared to Gudreaus. Obviously you can't because one was done properly and one was done horribly wrong.

batjester
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: College hockey is way more competitive than the OHL - hanleyaj, WI
Joined: 03.09.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
This nurse at work just said I'm not a real ginger cause my hair isn't dark enough and I said want me to pull my pants down and show you? ?? So yeah I think I proved it.
- ruttager17

Enjoy your weeks of sensitivity training.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
Refute what? The point you were making about me knowing nothing about hockey? Because, in case you didn't realize, that's what that post was in response to
- MaximumBone



yea you didn't see the same question in different posts directed at you and ignore them right?

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
No I really don't. He just spews the same garbage arguments he hears from other people.

I've been saying he has been handeld wrong since day one, turns out that he's been handeld wrong since day one. It's beyond obvious that he was developed horribly under Eakins.

And now that it's coming out that he wasn't being handled properly under Eakins, that makes me a moron for saying he wasn't being handled properly under Eakins. Am I the only one who sees how (frank)ing stupid that is?

- SpoiledByOil

I already DID refute this point.

Except he's getting the same ice time (14-15 mins), the same easy opposition, and the same access to the best possible linemates he was under Eakins. Is it Eakins' sin for not having a Roy? Nope. His most frequent linemates in Eakins' first season were Sam Gagner, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and David Perron (as per behindthenet.com).

And no, you're a moron for jumping to the conclusion so early and then lording it over others when it just so happened to be right.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
Enjoy your weeks of sensitivity training.
- batjester

SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
I already DID refute this point.

Except he's getting the same ice time (14-15 mins), the same easy opposition, and the same access to the best possible linemates he was under Eakins. Is it Eakins' sin for not having a Roy? Nope. His most frequent linemates in Eakins' first season were Sam Gagner, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and David Perron (as per behindthenet.com).

And no, you're a moron for jumping to the conclusion so early and then lording it over others when it just so happened to be right.

- MaximumBone



He wasn't getting access to the best possilbe linemates under Eakins. He was bounced around from line to line and rarely played with anyone on a regular basis. He wasn't getting and 1st line PP time and when he was playing the 2nd line PP he would play him on his off wing or on D.

Just because you agian like to read a bullpoop blog with numbers on it that justifies point of view doesn;t mean poop. Does that site tell you how long he played on the lines in a row, or wether it was on one for a few games then another for a few shifts than back with someone else the next game? Bouncing around constantly?

No, that would actually require you paying attention to the games, instead of just reading uselsess stats on a bullpoop blog.
cdjaakkola
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:45 PM ET

GO OILERS GO
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
Enjoy your weeks of sensitivity training.
- batjester

Apparently you have had no dealings with nurses or nursing before. Pretty much become desensitized to everything
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
no it wasn't wrong at all. But what's the point in even arguing.

i pay attention to other teams, and how they handle strugelling rookies. Calgary with Gudreau was the perfect example, still waiting for you to justify his handling compared to Gudreaus. Obviously you can't because one was done properly and one was done horribly wrong.

- SpoiledByOil

Maybe it's because they, like the 2010 Oilers, had no one else to play more effectively in that situation so they gave him a quick benching and then let him get back to his thing (see Taylor Hall in 2010). Now, Yak has the misfortune of playing behind what is an already established top line of high end young players that are all well above him in some facet or another.

Not saying that's the best way to handle things, but he's really just a victim of circumstance and an unfavourable roster that doesn't allow him the same freedoms a guy like Gaudreau has playing in front of Giordano, Brodie, and alongside an established vet like Hudler.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:48 PM ET
I already DID refute this point.

Except he's getting the same ice time (14-15 mins), the same easy opposition, and the same access to the best possible linemates he was under Eakins. Is it Eakins' sin for not having a Roy? Nope. His most frequent linemates in Eakins' first season were Sam Gagner, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and David Perron (as per behindthenet.com).

And no, you're a moron for jumping to the conclusion so early and then lording it over others when it just so happened to be right.

- MaximumBone



Still waiting for you to justify his handling compared to Gudreaus who was struggeling the same as he was. Or even McKinnon this year, Galchenyuk. Any of the recent rookies. Tell me 1 single sophmore in the league that was handeled the way he was and it turned out succesfully?
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
He wasn't getting access to the best possilbe linemates under Eakins. He was bounced around from line to line and rarely played with anyone on a regular basis. He wasn't getting and 1st line PP time and when he was playing the 2nd line PP he would play him on his off wing or on D.

Just because you agian like to read a bullpoop blog with numbers on it that justifies point of view doesn;t mean poop. Does that site tell you how long he played on the lines in a row, or wether it was on one for a few games then another for a few shifts than back with someone else the next game? Bouncing around constantly?

No, that would actually require you paying attention to the games, instead of just reading uselsess stats on a bullpoop blog.

- SpoiledByOil

Here's the proverbial "you're a nerd" high horse so many seem to get on. Like I said before, keep the ad homonym attacks coming.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Still waiting for you to justify his handling compared to Gudreaus who was struggeling the same as he was. Or even McKinnon this year, Galchenyuk. Any of the recent rookies. Tell me 1 single sophmore in the league that was handeled the way he was and it turned out succesfully?
- SpoiledByOil

Happy now? Cool. I'm out!
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
Maybe it's because they, like the 2010 Oilers, had no one else to play more effectively in that situation so they gave him a quick benching and then let him get back to his thing (see Taylor Hall in 2010). Now, Yak has the misfortune of playing behind what is an already established top line of high end young players that are all well above him in some facet or another.

Not saying that's the best way to handle things, but he's really just a victim of circumstance and an unfavourable roster that doesn't allow him the same freedoms a guy like Gaudreau has playing in front of Giordano, Brodie, and alongside an established vet like Hudler.

- MaximumBone



That's just a conjecture argument, who on this team should be played in a scoring role above Yakupov? Especially last year before we got Purcell?

He was scratched as punishment, his usage upon return clearly shows that. Gudreau was scratched as a learning experience, his usage upon return clearly shows that.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
Happy now? Cool. I'm out!
- MaximumBone



Yea super happy with another bullpoop conjecture "maybe" argument that doesn't require you to actually look at the situation and justify it.

don't know what I was expecting.
HAs_Revenge
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
This nurse at work just said I'm not a real ginger cause my hair isn't dark enough and I said want me to pull my pants down and show you? ?? So yeah I think I proved it.
- ruttager17

Someone is getting a visit from sexual harassment panda.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Do you live in Vancouver?
- HAs_Revenge


Yup, moved out here 18 years ago from nova scotia. It was a smart move career wise.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
Someone is getting a visit from sexual harassment panda.
- HAs_Revenge

ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
When Yakupov flees the NHL after not being able to produce, that's when he can be labeled a 'bust'. Until then, the 21 year old NHL player that has a rocky start to his career obviously still needs time to adjust and get back his confidence. and Nelson has done a great job so far of getting him back on track.

I can't stand reading Brownlee's garbage articles.

- ChetManly


ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Feb 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
Yup, moved out here 18 years ago from nova scotia. It was a smart move career wise.
- bloatedmosquito

Where from in NS? I grew up in Bedford.
HAs_Revenge
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 18 @ 2:59 PM ET

- ChetManly

this guy.... this is the guy.
ChetManly
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manly is the worst poster on this site - James Tanner
Joined: 06.25.2013

Feb 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
this guy.... this is the guy.
- HAs_Revenge

i swear there is a gif for every occasion, and most likely a south park one.
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