I like ror. What is the deal package for him?
- joshs

I think if it happens before the deadline, it's something to help them now as he helps they a lot now. So like an Ennis, Stewart and comes with 1st rounder and a prospect.

If it happens at the draft, drop the Ennis, Stewart and add a D prospect.

The real issue is, if they trade him they should want to upgrade their D, so you will have to give up at least one D prospect, but I would think more D will be involved.

I think if it happens before the deadline, it's something to help them now as he helps they a lot now. So like an Ennis, Stewart and comes with 1st rounder and a prospect.

If it happens at the draft, drop the Ennis, Stewart and add a D prospect.

The real issue is, if they trade him they should want to upgrade their D, so you will have to give up at least one D prospect, but I would think more D will be involved.
- Lilroot9

The price will go up at the draft not down.And Ennis should not be moved for him.

Wow was I wrong about ur team. Very humbled after this year. Must feel good for u guys
- joshs

Its been a fun ride.

He might be the guy the Avs "just have to get" for. ROR deal...ala Peg with Myers.
If so, that trade becomes less attractive to me and I don't make it.
- IonSabres

That is actually a very tough call right there Ion.

However, if I were forced to make a snap decision, I would rather have Ennis on my team moving forward over O'Reilly.

Tough decision there but I think I would be comfortable with that.

I think if it happens before the deadline, it's something to help them now as he helps they a lot now. So like an Ennis, Stewart and comes with 1st rounder and a prospect.

If it happens at the draft, drop the Ennis, Stewart and add a D prospect.

The real issue is, if they trade him they should want to upgrade their D, so you will have to give up at least one D prospect, but I would think more D will be involved.
- Lilroot9

Wouldn't trading ennis for ror be a lateral move? Or do u guys think ror is a better player?

The price will go up at the draft not down.And Ennis should not be moved for him.
- Cheeseballin

I feel the same way. Maybe RoR is better than ennis but I feel it's close. Then we throw in a ton more. I don't love it.

Wouldn't trading ennis for ror be a lateral move? Or do u guys think ror is a better player?
- joshs

Personally, I think it is close that there would not be a huge difference to offset any other asset needed to pry him away.

I would want RoR for our other 1st larsson and Pysyk.

I think if it happens before the deadline, it's something to help them now as he helps they a lot now. So like an Ennis, Stewart and comes with 1st rounder and a prospect.

If it happens at the draft, drop the Ennis, Stewart and add a D prospect.

The real issue is, if they trade him they should want to upgrade their D, so you will have to give up at least one D prospect, but I would think more D will be involved.
- Lilroot9

methinks that Pysyk would be intriguing to them on their second-pairing...their d-depth seems pretty weak outside of Johnson and barrie...

I would want RoR for our other 1st larsson and Pysyk.
- joshs

Not enough I think. He should get what we traded for Kane about. Maybe a little less.

Personally, I think it is close that there would not be a huge difference to offset any other asset needed to pry him away.
- IonSabres

seems as if ennis has much more pure skill than ror with the latter having more of a two-way game

methinks that Pysyk would be intriguing to them on their second-pairing...their d-depth seems pretty weak outside of Johnson and barrie...
- Michael Pachla

iMO, our D depth will be depleted too much by including Psysk Or McCabe.
If we do so, then we are looking for D help which is harder to find.
Give them both Mezz and Benoit, let them flip them to someone else along with another piece to secure their blue line.

the only thing i don't like about ROR is him being a money whore love the player


him and Samson would shut down any power house line and that's how your going to win a cup ..

Not enough I think. He should get what we traded for Kane about. Maybe a little less.
- Cheeseballin

You don't think that's enough?
I think it is more than enough for O'Reilly.

iMO, our D depth will be depleted too much by including Psysk Or McCabe.
If we do so, then we are looking for D help which is harder to find.
Give them both Mezz and Benoit, let them flip them to someone else along with another piece to secure their blue line.
- IonSabres

true dat on the depth...but i'm still of the opinion that one of Pysyk, McCabe, or Ruhwedel could be moved without depleting said depth too much...to me they're very similar players with Pysyk projecting out as more of a defensive defenseman to this point

You don't think that's enough?
I think it is more than enough for O'Reilly.
- BuffaloHardHat

Larsson has little if any value. If you look at what it took to get Kane. Stafford,1st, Armia, Lemuiex.

A 1st two good prospects and a rental. I'd see it taking Psysk, 1st +another good prospect and say Mitchell.

Is it an overpayment. sure. But that is how you get him.

You don't think that's enough?
I think it is more than enough for O'Reilly.
- BuffaloHardHat

Pysyk and the lower of the remaining two firsts for starters plus...maybe murray can convince sakic that a Grigorenko/roy reunion is the ticket

Larsson has little if any value. If you look at what it took to get Kane. Stafford,1st, Armia, Lemuiex.

A 1st two good prospects and a rental. I'd see it taking Psysk, 1st +another good prospect and say Mitchell.

Is it an overpayment. sure. But that is how you get him.
- Cheeseballin

ror was a second round pick, kane a fourth-overall...kane is a highly skilled offensive player while ror an impressive two-way player

imo, there is a difference

edit: then again, and to your point, I originally thought the package for kane/bogosian was an overpayment

ror was a second round pick, kane a fourth-overall...kane is a highly skilled offensive player while ror an impressive two-way player

imo, there is a difference
- Michael Pachla

In the end , I certainly hope there will be a big difference between those 2 players mentioned.

ror was a second round pick, kane a fourth-overall...kane is a highly skilled offensive player while ror an impressive two-way player

imo, there is a difference
- Michael Pachla

It does not matter where they were drafted at this point.They both have been in the NHL long enough to have their value increase or decrease. ROR has proven to be a solid NHL player and will demand a good value in return. THe avs hold the cards here and they are going to ask for a bunch.

Larsson has little if any value. If you look at what it took to get Kane. Stafford,1st, Armia, Lemuiex.

A 1st two good prospects and a rental. I'd see it taking Psysk, 1st +another good prospect and say Mitchell.

Is it an overpayment. sure. But that is how you get him.
- Cheeseballin

yeah but isn't ror a Ufa after next season. Or something to the effect that he will command big time salary.

It does not matter where they were drafted at this point.They both have been in the NHL long enough to have their value increase or decrease. ROR has proven to be a solid NHL player and will demand a good value in return. THe avs hold the cards here and they are going to ask for a bunch.
- Cheeseballin

Ror is not gonna bring in the haul like people expect. Probably a similar trade that pomminville went for

yeah but isn't ror a Ufa after next season. Or something to the effect that he will command big time salary.
- joshs

Yea I do think term left on contract comes into play. Kane has 3 years left I believe. So in theory he should cost more since ROR who has one year left after this year. Thats where its hard to judge value.

It does not matter where they were drafted at this point.They both have been in the NHL long enough to have their value increase or decrease. ROR has proven to be a solid NHL player and will demand a good value in return. THe avs hold the cards here and they are going to ask for a bunch.
- Cheeseballin

I hear ya

Larsson a non top 10 first and a goalie prospect is about what pomminville went for and he's a better player than ror