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Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:08 PM ET
I know that we (me included) have spent most of the past week complaining about how bad things are, but I honestly don't think that the problems are as big as they seem right now.

If the power play gets some shots through, that automatically gets better. If there is a little line shifting and the top six scores some goals, then that gets a lot better.

A couple of tactical adjustments, and some puck luck, and this team is right back where we thought it was... A playoff team with a weak bottom six.

It's not like things are unfixable, and with maybe some roster tinkering before the deadline, it can be even better than that.

Without a TON of luck, this team isn't winning the Cup, but with how the East is, this team could make it to the conference finals. The Rangers, Islanders and Caps are all running pretty well right now, but that will change... Those aren't perfect teams/rosters, and like any team, they will have some injuries and tough times too.

It all comes down to how healthy a team is, and how they are playing in April, not what is going on in February.

- rival22


Yeah, I could've left the "so" off that sentence. The lines bother me and many, and keeping Sutter on the third, let alone in thw lineup, aint working. There are issues that need fixed, but my main point for posting earlier was to try and dispell the myth that tje coaching staff is 100× smarter than the majority of fans who see the issues.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:10 PM ET
Ok people. In the big picture how important is this game?

Against a top western team (that is like us & having some difficulties), the other Metro teams getting away, PK & PP struggling, line changes????, personnel changes possible????, coach under pressure, Mario down to his undies in his bet with other owners????

How bad is it if the result isn't 2 points?
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Feb 21 @ 7:19 PM ET
Ok people. In the big picture how important is this game?

Against a top western team (that is like us & having some difficulties), the other Metro teams getting away, PK & PP struggling, line changes????, personnel changes possible????, coach under pressure, Mario down to his undies in his bet with other owners????

How bad is it if the result isn't 2 points?

- Aussiepenguin


I don't see us getting two points against a Hitchock coached team. But then, honestly I have lowered my expectations for this team. It's the SOS day after day and game after game. I usually sit at the computer while the game is on so I don't get angry at what is going on.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 21 @ 7:21 PM ET
Yeah, I could've left the "so" off that sentence. The lines bother me and many, and keeping Sutter on the third, let alone in thw lineup, aint working. There are issues that need fixed, but my main point for posting earlier was to try and dispell the myth that tje coaching staff is 100× smarter than the majority of fans who see the issues.
- Topshelf Mountain


The NHL isn't much different than most industries where who you know is more important than what you know. With that, I'm confident a good number of fans could manage NHL roster every bit as effectively as current GMs. Their discretion is far from infallible and there are plenty that routinely make poor decisions.
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Feb 21 @ 7:26 PM ET
The NHL isn't much different than most industries where who you know is more important than what you know. With that, I'm confident a good number of fans could manage NHL roster every bit as effectively as current GMs. Their discretion is far from infallible and there are plenty that routinely make poor decisions.
- jfkst1


Truer words were never spoken.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:31 PM ET
The NHL isn't much different than most industries where who you know is more important than what you know. With that, I'm confident a good number of fans could manage NHL roster every bit as effectively as current GMs. Their discretion is far from infallible and there are plenty that routinely make poor decisions.
- jfkst1


Any contract over a 4 year period in a contact sport is insane. There are exceptions but very few.

Big money long term = security & complacency.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:32 PM ET
top six is apparently changed...


Downie scratched for Sill... only real complaint...
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:33 PM ET
I don't see us getting two points against a Hitchock coached team. But then, honestly I have lowered my expectations for this team. It's the SOS day after day and game after game. I usually sit at the computer while the game is on so I don't get angry at what is going on.
- powerhouse


Hitch must have been off on the days recently 1-7 CBJ, 1-4 Stars. No team is infallible (at the moment those playing us might just be ).
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Feb 21 @ 7:34 PM ET
Burmistrov is nothing more than Zherdev 2.0. Pass. Complete garbage.
Frolik - I like ... alot
Peluso - pass
Perreault - you realize he is probably out for the year?

No chance Toronto does that deal.

- Oneonta Penguin

I like Frolik but if our PP doesn't start scoring I'd rather have the other guy from Kladno
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:34 PM ET
Hitch must have been off on the days recently 1-7 CBJ, 1-4 Stars. No team is infallible (at the moment those playing us might just be ).
- Aussiepenguin


Hitch has about run his course with St Louis... He has about 4 years until he wears out his welcome with a team.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:36 PM ET
top six is apparently changed...


Downie scratched for Sill... only real complaint...

- rival22


Still the message seems to be Sutter, Spaling & Bennet are the men to be our 3rd line. Scratch a recent goal scorer when scoring goals is our problem - WTF

Did I say ?
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:39 PM ET
top six is apparently changed...


Downie scratched for Sill... only real complaint...

- rival22

It wouldn't surprise me if Downie gets dealt. With him getting healthy scratched as of late, it feels like its going to happen any day now.
thickman1178
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.21.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:42 PM ET
top six is apparently changed...


Downie scratched for Sill... only real complaint...

- rival22



Sutter still on the 3rd line and Sill in for Downie? What the hell!!!

Johnston is a god damn fool and Im not sure what the Pens love affair with Sutter is all about but he belongs on the 4th line.

Bennett - Spaling - Downie would be the best 3rd line we can put out there.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:42 PM ET
Still the message seems to be Sutter, Spaling & Bennet are the men to be our 3rd line. Scratch a recent goal scorer when scoring goals is our problem -
- Aussiepenguin


Sutter isn't going anywhere. I am convinced of that, so I am not even going to get angry about him.

All we can hope for is that he finds the gear he was in during last year's playoffs for this spring.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:42 PM ET
It wouldn't surprise me if Downie gets dealt. With him getting healthy scratched as of late, it feels like its going to happen any day now.
- joescullz


I was about to throw that in as an edit, then through some form of clarity on the toilet I thought that JR has found a team for Zachy boy & they wanted him to play against a western team to get the deal over the line.

Wishful thinking?
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:43 PM ET
Still the message seems to be Sutter, Spaling & Bennet are the men to be our 3rd line. Scratch a recent goal scorer when scoring goals is our problem - WTF

Did I say ?

- Aussiepenguin


On a positive note, hopefully #72 can light it up again with Sid & #14 can light up with Geno. Glad Bennett is not playing on 4th line too.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:45 PM ET
Sutter isn't going anywhere. I am convinced of that, so I am not even going to get angry about him.

All we can hope for is that he finds the gear he was in during last year's playoffs for this spring.

- rival22


C'mon just 1 . Give us 1 !

(frank)!

I'll be angry for us both.

I do hope that Bartleys boy does start getting his game together again, maybe a goal will kick start something?
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:45 PM ET
Sutter isn't going anywhere. I am convinced of that, so I am not even going to get angry about him.

All we can hope for is that he finds the gear he was in during last year's playoffs for this spring.

- rival22

Never say never. I thought i just read somewhere that JR said the only players not in play are sid, geno, tanger and flower.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:47 PM ET
On a positive note, hopefully #72 can light it up again with Sid & #14 can light up with Geno. Glad Bennett is not playing on 4th line too.
- joescullz


Great work Joe getting the positives out there - love your work.

Now let's go kick some southern bumholes bumholes!
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:50 PM ET
Great work Joe getting the positives out there - love your work.

Now let's go kick some southern bumholes bumholes!

- Aussiepenguin

Lol. Thanks. This board needs some positive thoughts for a change....too much doom & gloom as of late.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:53 PM ET
top six is apparently changed...


Downie scratched for Sill... only real complaint...

- rival22


We're getting closer to the lines we need. Scratching Downie is a HUGE mistake. Hope to God he's not being traded.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Feb 21 @ 7:56 PM ET
Hey guys Send me a good link for tonight's game!!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 21 @ 7:58 PM ET
Lol. Thanks. This board needs some positive thoughts for a change....too much doom & gloom as of late.
- joescullz


Yes it's been said a few times of late, last year & the start of this 1 a lot of people were pleading for some changes in coaching structure through the 82 game season & for a little adversity to harden the team. Now when that has happened & we aren't winning most games everyone hates it. Fortunately no metro team has the ability to leave everyone behind & we are all fighting some type of injury or slump. Makes life entertaining & gives us a chance to use !

Game on mutha fcuffas!

Let's go Pens.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 21 @ 7:59 PM ET
Any contract over a 4 year period in a contact sport is insane. There are exceptions but very few.

Big money long term = security & complacency.

- Aussiepenguin


Case in point, Sutter has been a mainstay as 3C for 3 years now that unmistakably coincide with the years the Pens have consistently not had good forward depth. And yet, he has never been a healthy scratch, demoted, or actively shopped in trades despite every eye test and data analysis identifying he is a problem. Yeah, I think I'll remain highly skeptical of management's decisions until they are raising another cup banner.
joescullz
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.07.2013

Feb 21 @ 8:00 PM ET
Great work Joe getting the positives out there - love your work.

Now let's go kick some southern bumholes bumholes!

- Aussiepenguin

From Molinari's twitter: @MolinariPG: Sill starting game on a line with Sutter and Bennett.
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