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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:36 PM ET
Very good point, I agree and markstrom still has a chance but as of right now I don't see anything that suggests he will be better than lack.
- belcherbd

I think Lack is of the Reimer mold. Great back up goalie
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:37 PM ET
I agree. I'd keep Markstrom but to each their own I guess.

More importantly, we can't trade Kassian unless the return is huge. We just need to put him and other guys like Jensen in positions to succeed instead of giving the Higgin's 2nd line minutes.

I'm sick of seeing offensive players thrown to the bottom 6 and then being called out for lack of production.

- golfingsince

I'm not saying the return has to be huge. But it has to be a nice piece
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 7:38 PM ET
Their Swedish numbers are a good beromitor considering it was the same team
- Bieksa#3

It was also 5 years ago. I would prefer to look at more recent results in N.A.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:38 PM ET
Hey Bud, I usually love your recipes but I don't think anyone is having a Birthday party for an 8 yr old girl. I will keep this until that day.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Mine will be 3
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:39 PM ET
It was also 5 years ago. I would prefer to look at more recent results in N.A.
- belcherbd

Fine, but the Swedish numbers do give u the most accurate comparable
GloveHandStrong
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Kenowhere, WI
Joined: 07.02.2014

Feb 22 @ 7:39 PM ET
Currently markstrom has been hot but his career numbers still are not as good as lacks.
Lack 923 markstrom 917 in ahl.
Lack 912 markstrom 896 in NHL.

In Sweden you are right markstrom had better numbers.

- belcherbd



you also must take into account, before being traded to Vancouver, Markstrom did not have a goalie coach since coming to North America, its a huge adjustment, especially if you don't have a goalie coach
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 22 @ 7:39 PM ET
Mine will be 3
- Bieksa#3

So princess cake?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:40 PM ET
So princess cake?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Ninja turtles believe it or not
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 7:40 PM ET
Were you not suggesting that the reason kassian is playing well because of WD tough love approach?

I don't understand why WD gets credit for kassian playing well.

- belcherbd


You have to stretch it to see that. Why not take it as it's written. I don't see why people are getting upset about Kassian's treatment. I'll wait til he disappears to demand changes. Do I think he deserves the treatment? I don't know. Based on his on ice play lately, no.... but whats to complain about. He's our hottest player right now. I trust the coach's decisions more than I trust Kassian's focus long term that's for sure.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:41 PM ET
Nash out shooting buff 26-7 and losing 1-0. Come on Neuvirth
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 22 @ 7:41 PM ET
Ninja turtles believe it or not
- Bieksa#3

Her choice?
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:42 PM ET
Her choice?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yep
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 22 @ 7:42 PM ET
Yep
- Bieksa#3

I love it, she's still to young to be pigeon holed.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 7:43 PM ET
you also must take into account, before being traded to Vancouver, Markstrom did not have a goalie coach since coming to North America, its a huge adjustment, especially if you don't have a goalie coach
- GloveHandStrong


Florida has and did have a goalie coach, that was just some BS created likely by nuck fans to justify why he never turned the corner in florida
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 22 @ 7:43 PM ET
I'm not saying the return has to be huge. But it has to be a nice piece
- Bieksa#3


Again he's 24, which is a normal time for a prospect to start blooming. As a projected power forward, he's just getting there. I'd be absolutely pissed if we gave him away for anything less than a big return.

Looking at the much overused Bert comparison, it's right about now that the Isles dealt him and about 2 years later he was tearing it up.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 22 @ 7:43 PM ET
This could be an ugly 3rd Period.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:44 PM ET
I love it
- A_SteamingLombardi

We are having a boy in the end of may. She doesn't know that but is pretty straight up it had better be a boy
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 22 @ 7:45 PM ET
We are having a boy in the end of may. She doesn't know that but is pretty straight up it had better be a boy
- Bieksa#3

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 7:45 PM ET
While there's certainly some truth to this. Why isn't the same done with Willies pets? Vey?
- Bieksa#3


Who would you rather to play at his full potential right now? Kassian or Vey?

Hockey players are not two lumps of silver on a scale. How players are dealt with by coaches is not a fine example of equality on the job. Why would it be.... thats not how you get the most out of individuals.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 7:46 PM ET
You have to stretch it to see that. Why not take it as it's written. I don't see why people are getting upset about Kassian's treatment. I'll wait til he disappears to demand changes. Do I think he deserves the treatment? I don't know. Based on his on ice play lately, no.... but whats to complain about. He's our hottest player right now. I trust the coach's decisions more than I trust Kassian's focus long term that's for sure.
- boonerbuck


Fair enough, I trust WD as well, even if I don't understand some of the choices. It sounded to me you were attributing kassian's success to WD, which I disagreed with. He deserves credit for the way he is playing right now.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:47 PM ET
Who would you rather to play at his full potential right now? Kassian or Vey?

Hockey players are not two lumps of silver on a scale. How players are dealt with by coaches is not a fine example of equality on the job. Why would it be.... thats not how you get the most out of individuals.

- boonerbuck

Why can't they both be expected to play well
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 7:49 PM ET
Fair enough, I trust WD as well, even if I don't understand some of the choices. It sounded to me you were attributing kassian's success to WD, which I disagreed with. He deserves credit for the way he is playing right now.
- belcherbd


There's only an argument if one believes that all the credit goes to one or the other.... why do things have to be that way with people? It's all Kassian or it's all the coach? I'm not that narrow minded thank you...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 22 @ 7:50 PM ET
Why can't they both be expected to play well
- Bieksa#3


You mean there are hockey players that are expected not to play well?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 22 @ 7:52 PM ET
You mean there are hockey players that are expected not to play well?
- boonerbuck


I'm pretty sure we came to expect that of Sestito.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 7:53 PM ET
You mean there are hockey players that are expected not to play well?
- boonerbuck

Like u say when people respond to your posts, your assuming something rather then reading the post?
Straight up why not hold both to high standards?
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