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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:16 PM ET
Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Burrows-Bonino-Vrbata
Kennins-Horvat-Dorsett
Mcmillan-Vey-Jensen

Richardson for a third, Hansen Higgins mathias for seconds (each) and more if we can, sure the line 4 isnt the best but itd help with prospect cupboards alot.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 9:19 PM ET
Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Burrows-Bonino-Vrbata
Kennins-Horvat-Dorsett
Mcmillan-Vey-Jensen

Richardson for a third, Hansen Higgins mathias for seconds (each) and more if we can, sure the line 4 isnt the best but itd help with prospect cupboards alot.

- phyllee


Agree with all except Matthias.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:23 PM ET
Agree with all except Matthias.

- VanHockeyGuy


Mattias is going to be asking more then hes worth, and with tanevs big contract comming and dorsetts raise which will probably happen cap will be close. I like matthias depending on what he wants money wise better to get something for him then nothing
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:25 PM ET
Vey, Richardson, and Higgins will be the odd men out.
- kaptaan



Don't think Vey is going anywhere.
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 23 @ 9:35 PM ET
SSM is geared up for a run at the OHL championship, 7 guys over PPG is amazing. That's a whole first PP unit plus 2 extra guys. Must be a fun team to follow.
- Nucker101


Closest OHL team to me. I may catch a playoff game if I get the time.
golfingsince
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Feb 23 @ 9:37 PM ET
Probably, yeah that was a great article. Their GM was Kyle Dubas who is now an assistant GM with TOR. He mentioned that his advanced stats(shooting percentage, zone entries, usage by coach) suggested that he had more upside to his game than what he had showed last year.
- Nucker101


I've been a fan of the McCann pick over the Virtanen pick since the draft. I still wish we'd taken Nylander.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 9:37 PM ET
Don't think Vey is going anywhere.
- LordHumungous


Not sure what's up with him lately.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 9:44 PM ET
I've been a fan of the McCann pick over the Virtanen pick since the draft. I still wish we'd taken Nylander.
- golfingsince


No way.
golfingsince
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Feb 23 @ 9:48 PM ET
No way.
- VanHockeyGuy


Yeah, difference of opinion. Time will tell.
Gullzy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.07.2013

Feb 23 @ 9:53 PM ET
Nucker I just sent you a reply via Yahoo.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 9:56 PM ET
I've been a fan of the McCann pick over the Virtanen pick since the draft. I still wish we'd taken Nylander.
- golfingsince


Nylander has had an amazing draft+1 season so far, and I know Virtanen's been hot and cold this year but I read back on Twitter about a couple of weeks ago that he's among the league leaders in the WHL in points per 60 minutes. With the way the NHL is slowly trending back towards lower the scoring, more physical, less finesse style of play, especially in the playoffs I think size and speed will matter big time so I can live with the pick even though Ehlers was my #1 choice, Virtanen was #2 for me.
golfingsince
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Feb 23 @ 9:57 PM ET
Nylander has had an amazing draft+1 season so far, and I know Virtanen's been hot and cold this year but I read back on Twitter about a couple of weeks ago that he's among the league leaders in the WHL in points per 60 minutes. With the way the NHL is slowly trending back towards lower the scoring, more physical, less finesse style of play, especially in the playoffs I think size and speed will matter big time so I can live with the pick even though Ehlers was my #1 choice, Virtanen was #2 for me.
- Nucker101


Again, time will tell. I just felt Nylander was possibly the most talented guy in the draft.
kevingram
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Comox, BC
Joined: 09.27.2013

Feb 23 @ 9:59 PM ET
Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Burrows-Bonino-Vrbata
Kennins-Horvat-Dorsett
Mcmillan-Vey-Jensen

Richardson for a third, Hansen Higgins mathias for seconds (each) and more if we can, sure the line 4 isnt the best but itd help with prospect cupboards alot.

- phyllee



I agree with all but Matthias as well. If he can be signed for 2.5-3.75 for 2-5 I'm keeping him. I'm sure I'll get flamed but I'd only move him if it were for a first. Not very many second rounders amount to players of his caliber and size. Seems like they are a bit of a weird currency right now. 2nd or a 3rd would be fine for Higgins / Hansen although I like Kenins Horvat Hansen as a third line. I'd move Higgins and possibly Vey if a second could be had for either.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 23 @ 10:05 PM ET
Again, time will tell. I just felt Nylander was possibly the most talented guy in the draft.
- golfingsince


Possibly, if NHL scoring was the way it was 3-4 years ago I would have wanted Nylander. But when the whistles get put away and they start playing "good ole fashioned playoff hockey" I want the stronger/faster team. It's definitely nice to have a Gaudreau/Kane type as well, but only if they're surrounded by some big/strong/fast players to compliment them.

As you said, time will tell though. I definitely am happy with both first round selections, if anything it was the rest of the draft that was a bit disappointing for me. Forsling turned out to be a good value pick and liked what Benning did by flipping him for Clendening. But I'm sceptical about the rest(Tryamkin, Petit, Stewart). I also don't like drafting goalies high, but Demko looks decent.
golfingsince
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Feb 23 @ 10:11 PM ET
Possibly, if NHL scoring was the way it was 3-4 years ago I would have wanted Nylander. But when the whistles get put away and they start playing "good ole fashioned playoff hockey" I want the stronger/faster team. It's definitely nice to have a Gaudreau/Kane type as well, but only if they're surrounded by some big/strong/fast players to compliment them.

As you said, time will tell though. I definitely am happy with both first round selections, if anything it was the rest of the draft that was a bit disappointing for me. Forsling turned out to be a good value pick and liked what Benning did by flipping him for Clendening. But I'm sceptical about the rest(Tryamkin, Petit, Stewart). I also don't like drafting goalies high, but Demko looks decent.

- Nucker101



I get the bigger, faster, stronger mantra. You yourself have said on many occasions that you can't coach skill however. I'm OK with the draft, just not sold that Virtanen was the right pick at #6. I do think the McCann pick helped salvage the draft.

I'm OK with the Demko pick too.

This year I hope we snag a Dman or two early.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:26 PM ET
I get the bigger, faster, stronger mantra. You yourself have said on many occasions that you can't coach skill however. I'm OK with the draft, just not sold that Virtanen was the right pick at #6. I do think the McCann pick helped salvage the draft.

I'm OK with the Demko pick too.

This year I hope we snag a Dman or two early.

- golfingsince


Haven't had a D in round 1 in a decade (Luc Bourdon).
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 23 @ 10:30 PM ET
Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Burrows-Bonino-Vrbata
Kennins-Horvat-Dorsett
Mcmillan-Vey-Jensen

Richardson for a third, Hansen Higgins mathias for seconds (each) and more if we can, sure the line 4 isnt the best but itd help with prospect cupboards alot.

- phyllee


Trade Richie, Higgins and mattias (unless he signs before TDL at <2.6MM). We need Hansen for the 4th line. McMillan is fine as a 13th forward. I'd like and extra 2nd as well as a replacement 3rd for this draft.

This way we load up on picks, get younger, create cap flexibility and still ice a competitive lineup for the postseason.
golfingsince
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Feb 23 @ 10:31 PM ET
Haven't had a D in round 1 in a decade (Luc Bourdon).
- VanHockeyGuy


Yes, and we've been fortunate with our top 4. However, we haven't had a dominating Dman.......ever?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
I get the bigger, faster, stronger mantra. You yourself have said on many occasions that you can't coach skill however. I'm OK with the draft, just not sold that Virtanen was the right pick at #6. I do think the McCann pick helped salvage the draft.

I'm OK with the Demko pick too.

This year I hope we snag a Dman or two early.

- golfingsince


I agree, high end skill is very hard to find and IMO should be the priority with a top 10 pick. I'm not so sure I buy that size trumps skill. I still think hot goaltending is usually the biggest factor during the playoffs.

Virtanen is a good pick and is having a good year but both ehlers and nylander are having incredible seasons.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:33 PM ET
Trade Richie, Higgins and mattias (unless he signs before TDL at <2.6MM). We need Hansen for the 4th line. McMillan is fine as a 13th forward. I'd like and extra 2nd as well as a replacement 3rd for this draft.

This way we load up on picks, get younger, create cap flexibility and still ice a competitive lineup for the postseason.

- CanuckDon


So you are assuming we will be sellers then? May well be the case.
PetrolSexual
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Down by the Sea, BC
Joined: 06.27.2014

Feb 23 @ 10:33 PM ET
Yes, and we've been fortunate with our top 4. However, we haven't had a dominating Dman.......ever?
- golfingsince


I would say the closest we have had is Ohlund or Jovo.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:34 PM ET
I get the bigger, faster, stronger mantra. You yourself have said on many occasions that you can't coach skill however. I'm OK with the draft, just not sold that Virtanen was the right pick at #6. I do think the McCann pick helped salvage the draft.

I'm OK with the Demko pick too.

This year I hope we snag a Dman or two early.

- golfingsince


And younger.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Feb 23 @ 10:35 PM ET
I get the bigger, faster, stronger mantra. You yourself have said on many occasions that you can't coach skill however. I'm OK with the draft, just not sold that Virtanen was the right pick at #6. I do think the McCann pick helped salvage the draft.

I'm OK with the Demko pick too.

This year I hope we snag a Dman or two early.

- golfingsince


I don't understand the Demko pick except Benning saw him play a lot and liked him. We will almost be lucky to get a 2nd for Lack or Markstrom, seems too high a pick to use on Demko or any goalie.
golfingsince
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Feb 23 @ 10:38 PM ET
And younger.

- VanHockeyGuy


Well it's a draft, they're all teenagers.
golfingsince
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Feb 23 @ 10:41 PM ET
I don't understand the Demko pick except Benning saw him play a lot and liked him. We will almost be lucky to get a 2nd for Lack or Markstrom, seems too high a pick to use on Demko or any goalie.
- hillbillydeluxe


Having watched the goalie carousels of the past I'll disagree. We've just been fortunate to have some stability in net the past while and that was mostly brought by a top pick in the draft.
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