Carter, Richards, Williams all trade for.

Shall I go on?

Just keep the faith man, it isn't all doom and gloom.
- dadeadhead

Oh I will. Will suck watching them be bottom feeders for 3 more years though until all our guys are good and not just 18-20 year olds

Reinhart will be much more than a 50-60 point getter.
- dadeadhead

I think it's just the skewed view of some. I think if said player doesn't make the NHL right away the way many of the top picked teens have in recent years that he somehow is less than. You know what I'm saying? I don't necessarily agree with that sentiment

Carter, Richards, Gaborik, Williams all trade for.

Shall I go on?

Just keep the faith man, it isn't all doom and gloom.
- dadeadhead

still much building to do. Not all elite/franchise players come from the first 3 picks

Carter, Richards, Gaborik, Williams all trade for.

Shall I go on?

Just keep the faith man, it isn't all doom and gloom.
- dadeadhead

Last year this time the sabres had almost identical points and were 4 pts clear of edmonton.

This ain't even over yet, lets cross the plan b bridge if/when we get there.

I think it's just the skewed view of some. I think if said player doesn't make the NHL right away the way many of the top picked teens have in recent years that he somehow is less than. You know what I'm saying?
- twistedwrister9

Could he have'd stayed? Yes


Was it better for him to go and work on some things to come in next season stronger?
Yes as it was probably for the best rather suffer through all of this.

I think it's just the skewed view of some. I think if said player doesn't make the NHL right away the way many of the top picked teens have in recent years that he somehow is less than. You know what I'm saying?
- twistedwrister9

People just really want that talent and who can blame them.

still much building to do. Not all elite/franchise players come from the first 3 picks
- twistedwrister9

Bingo.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

People just really want that talent and who can blame them.
- Sabresfan-365

Agreed.

Oh I will. Will suck watching them be bottom feeders for 3 more years though until all our guys are good and not just 18-20 year olds
- Fattony1187

They could still be 3 years away with McEichel too.

Bingo.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.
- dadeadhead

Of course there is. May take us a long time though. Took 7 years after LA took kopitar to win. we can still trade some of our picks the next 3-4 years. I didn't really want to wait 7 years though :/

Could he have'd stayed? Yes


Was it better for him to go and work on some things to come in next season stronger?
Yes as it was probably for the best rather suffer through all of this.
- dadeadhead

oh yea.....I completely agree with you. He could've handled it but let's be honest he needed to hit weights and put on some McMuscle....lol. didn't do him any good to stay here, lose and play on the 4th line, let alone burn a year of his ELC. The right play was to go back to Kootenay, win, lead, play in the WJC and work on getting bigger.

How the hell did we score 6 goals without Ennis & Girgensons ?!

They could still be 3 years away with McEichel too.
- dadeadhead

I'm aware. I said that my first day on here posting and people tried to run me off here

Of course there is. May take us a long time though. Took 7 years after LA took kopitar to win. we can set trade some of our picks the next 3-4 years. I didn't really want to wait 7 years though :/
- Fattony1187

Difference is we have a defense that is ahead of the LA curve IMO.

Difference is we have a defense that is ahead of the LA curve IMO.
- dadeadhead

Risto is no doughty. LA had great defense too. If zadorov, risto McCabe pysk ALL pan out then we should be in good shape. None of them have proven much yet (although I have high hopes for risto)

Risto is no doughty. LA had great defense too. If zadorov, risto McCabe pysk ALL pan out then we should be in good shape. None of them have proven much yet (although I have high hopes for risto)
- Fattony1187

My point was you stated it took LA 7 years after Kopitar. Well Doughty came 3 years later.

Risto and Zads came in 13, Reinhart came in 14.

IMO we are ahead of the LA timeline.

I'm also gonna go on a limb but Zads reminds me of a young Pronger. Not saying that he is the next Pronger. Just he plays a similar game. Hartford ran Pronger out of town and the franchise ended up in Carolina. It would be a mistake to do that with Zads IMO.

Of course there is. May take us a long time though. Took 7 years after LA took kopitar to win. we can set trade some of our picks the next 3-4 years. I didn't really want to wait 7 years though :/
- Fattony1187

take the Isles for example. ... good young Core. Tavares, Nelson, Lee, Okposo, Neilsen, Bailey, Hamonic, De Haan, etc. They prolly should've made some trades and signings sooner. I think Garths job being on the line and not wanting to give up a top 5 pick helped facilitate it but. They added 2 depth scorers (UFAs Grabovski/Kulemin), 2 Dmen from trades with teams in Cap Jail (Leddy/Boychuk) & a solid goaltender UFA Halak. .

I think the Sabres are in their way, if not ahead of plans implemented by the Isles/Kings etc. Girgensons, Moulson, Reinhart, Ennis, Kane, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Pysyk, McCabe, & Bogosian. Hopefully McEichel. I Don't think it'll be 7 years. If we follow the Isles blueprint and sign a couple depth players and/or trade for some decent young talent from teams in Cap Jail we could be making noise in the playoff a couple years out. For me the biggest question mark is finding our next tender.

take the Isles for example. ... good young Core. Tavares, Nelson, Lee, Okposo, Neilsen, Bailey, Hamonic, De Haan, etc. They prolly should've made some trades and signings sooner. I think Garths job being on the line and not wanting to give up a top 5 pick helped facilitate it but. They added 2 depth scorers (UFAs Grabovski/Kulemin), 2 Dmen from trades with teams in Cap Jail (Leddy/Boychuk) & a solid goaltender UFA Halak. .

I think the Sabres are in their way, if not ahead of plans implemented by the Isles/Kings etc. Girgensons, Moulson, Reinhart, Ennis, Kane, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Pysyk, McCabe, & Bogosian. Hopefully McEichel. I Don't think it'll be 7 years. If we follow the Isles blueprint and sign a couple depth players and/or trade for some decent young talent from teams in Cap Jail we could be making noise in the playoff a couple years out. For me the biggest question mark is finding our next tender.
- twistedwrister9

Everyone acts like we are "ahead of curve" because we were are only team with players already. LA had players too. Something you may not know, LA had THREE 1sts in the loaded 2003 draft. Then drafted in the top 5 THREE times after drafting kopitar. They had players and picks too. Still took them a while. without mcheichel you guys just don't realize how long and far away we are. What players are gonna help us not be a bottom feeder in the next two years without mcheichel? Then two more years until risto and Reinhart really are "game changers" *maybe*. We are in year 4 before we are really competing for playoffs already let alone a cup. Can we get lucky sure. 40 years of Sabres history says that's not gonna happen

Everyone acts like we are "ahead of curve" because we were are only team with players already. LA had players too. Something you may not know, LA had THREE 1sts in the loaded 2003 draft. Then drafted in the top 5 THREE times after drafting kopitar. They had players and picks too. Still took them a while. without mcheichel you guys just don't realize how long and far away we are. What players are gonna help us not be a bottom feeder in the next two years without mcheichel? Then two more years until risto and Reinhart really are "game changers" *maybe*. We are in year 4 before we are really competing for playoffs already let alone a cup. Can we get lucky sure. 40 years of Sabres history says that's not gonna happen
- Fattony1187

Not with that attitude.

Brian Boyle 26th and Jeff Tambellini 27th were/are nothing special and the players they got via moving them did nothing for them either. Oh and both were taken over Corey Perry 28th.

I still like Reinhart's chances better than some.

Not with that attitude.

Brian Boyle 26th and Jeff Tambellini 27th were/are nothing special and the players they got via moving them did nothing for them either. Oh and both were taken over Corey Perry 28th.

I still like Reinhart's chances better than some.
- dadeadhead

I do like Reinhart I was very happy to get him. Showing busts on there team just shows there is gonna be some on our end too. not every pick we make or made is gonna turn out perfect. maybe hanafin can be doughty. That would def help when we miss out on mceichel

It will be a damn shame if we miss out

I do like Reinhart I was very happy to get him. Showing busts on there team just shows there is gonna be some on our end too. not every pick we make or made is gonna turn out perfect. maybe hanafin can be doughty. That would def help when we miss out on mceichel
- Fattony1187

More of showing the crap shoot the later you draft in the 1st.

It will be a damn shame if we miss out
- SABRES 89

It will be harder for sure.

I still don't see us missing out though.

There will be 6-7 guys not here come Monday IMO.

It will be harder for sure.

I still don't see us missing out though.

There will be 6-7 guys not here come Monday IMO.
- dadeadhead

I don't know if Murray will be able to move all of them.

I don't know if Murray will be able to move all of them.
- SABRES 89

I have faith

Mitchell
Neuvirth
Stewart
Mez

are as good as gone.

Larsson
Benoit
Strachen
Lindback

are on the fence.