Do you think Bieksa would be willing to take a paycut if he decides to stay after his current contract is up. He'll most likely be a bottom pairing D-man going forward with us.
- Mungo

I honestly couldn't say. The guy is pretty hard to read personality wise. IMO comes off like a total wienerhead but at times he seems very team oriented so I guess we will see

This was discussed earlier in the year a bit. Tanev is a bit frail and seems to be injured every season for odd stretches. I like him too but I've never really been sold he is stable enough to last in the west long term.

I think Benning is totally looking at what you had claimed. If the Tanev camp won't budge on contract demands I would be totally fine with moving him if the return was there.
- LordHumungous

There is a lot of moving parts in the next few months. We need to move a goalie. What to do about Kassian Higgins Bieksa Burrows. UFAs and Salary caps. I don't think a GM can just say here is 4.5 mil for the next 5 years

Trade Tanev and the Canucks RHD depth chart would be as follows next year

1. Bieksa(turns 34 this summer)
2. Clendening
3. Corrado
4. Weber?



If you do trade him, you better get back a RHD either in the trade or some other way, and preferably someone under 30 since Tanev is only 25.
- Nucker101

This was discussed earlier in the year a bit. Tanev is a bit frail and seems to be injured every season for odd stretches. I like him too but I've never really been sold he is stable enough to last in the west long term.

I think Benning is totally looking at what you had claimed. If the Tanev camp won't budge on contract demands I would be totally fine with moving him if the return was there.
- LordHumungous

I don't have any issue with Tanev getting injured. He blocks a lot of shots and often doesn't shy away from taking the hit to make a play.

But if his contract demands are out of touch then he should be moved.

TSN is reporting that the price for Petry has gone up from 2nd + to 1st +.
As I was saying the value is created by the buyer not the seller. The seller sets the price. If a team like Ducks really need a d and there is a shortage of d then the value to Ducks is high hence the price.
Also TSN is reporting that although Wisniewski is available he is not willing to be traded. As per the MNTC Wisniewski submitted 10 teams he would get traded to and the list has teams that cannot afford him or have no need for another D. That means another names scratched off the available D list. JB really needs to call every GM and peddle KB or Hammer. Hammer can get 2x 1st + at this rate.
- Linden_4_Capt

well before his injury he was in the top pairing so he fits in that category. you can argue if he should even be in that spot, but the fact is him and edler make up our top Defensive pair
- Mungo

That does not make him our #2 defenceman.

- VANTEL

Hmmm, so top 4 defense are in desperate demand? Shocker!

Canucks won't be selling any of the core at this TDL. Benning would lose a lot of respect from the locker room if he did. The team is 2nd in the division as of right now and the TDL is on Monday.
- Nucker101

Fair enough. What about switching gears and putting Webber and Stanton on the Market. What do you think they would garner at the current market rate?

TSN is reporting that the price for Petry has gone up from 2nd + to 1st +.
As I was saying the value is created by the buyer not the seller. The seller sets the price. If a team like Ducks really need a d and there is a shortage of d then the value to Ducks is high hence the price.
Also TSN is reporting that although Wisniewski is available he is not willing to be traded. As per the MNTC Wisniewski submitted 10 teams he would get traded to and the list has teams that cannot afford him or have no need for another D. That means another names scratched off the available D list. JB really needs to call every GM and peddle KB or Hammer. Hammer can get 2x 1st + at this rate.
- Linden_4_Capt

If JB is unable to trade Bieksa or any of our big $ ntc dmen, Stanton, Sbisa or Weber should at least be considered to move. We have a bunch of rfa dmen and guys want to see Pedan in the lineup next season, going to have to make some moves.

Canucks won't be selling any of the core at this TDL. Benning would lose a lot of respect from the locker room if he did. The team is 2nd in the division as of right now and the TDL is on Monday.
- Nucker101

I doubt that, but the team is on a roll right now , why do major shake ups.

That does not make him our #2 defenceman.
- KB3Point0

At worst he is a #3

Do you think Bieksa would be willing to take a paycut if he decides to stay after his current contract is up. He'll most likely be a bottom pairing D-man going forward with us.
- Mungo

If we don't trade him he will take below market value to stay. I could not even guess how much below market value he'd be willing to go though.

Fair enough. What about switching gears and putting Webber and Stanton on the Market. What do you think they would garner at the current market rate?
- Linden_4_Capt

4th or 5th round pick. Diaz went for a 5th last year

I doubt that, but the team is on a roll right now , why do major shake ups.
- VANTEL

Doubt what?

At worst he is a #3
- bezz44

This.

If we don't trade him he will take below market value to stay. I could not even guess how much below market value he'd be willing to go though.
- KB3Point0

With how desperate teams are these days for defensemen, he'd get some stupid money thrown at him, even at 35 years old.

4th or 5th round pick. Diaz went for a 5th last year
- Mungo

Diaz went for a 5th last year when the market was poop. This year we have guys like Sekera going for 1st +. Edm now wants 1st for Petry. I doubt a RHD depth guy would be a 5th this year.

Hmmm, so top 4 defense are in desperate demand? Shocker!
- Nucker101

Petry top 4

Diaz went for a 5th last year when the market was poop. This year we have guys like Sekera going for 1st +. Edm now wants 1st for Petry. I doubt a RHD depth guy would be a 5th this year.
- Linden_4_Capt

I think most playoff teams have guys who are "as good" as Weber already. Stanton could probably get a 4th, maybe a 3rd if someone gets desperate. I'd rather keep him as a cheap and young depth option moving forward though. He knows his role, keeps it simple and is a good team player willing to drop the gloves once in awhile. Ideal 6/7 d-man to have.

Petry top 4
- VANTEL

He could pass for a 4th guy on a playoff team's depth chart, but if he's on your 2nd pairing you'd definitely need an equally good or preferably better d-man playing with him. He can anchor a 3rd pairing as well. I do think some EDM fans overvalue him because he looks pretty good compared to the rest of this poop they've had over the years.

Doubt what?
- Nucker101

Moving old unproductive players does not shake up locker room attitude. See Mike Richards.

Moving old unproductive players does not shake up locker rom attitude. See Mike Richards.
- VANTEL

Bieksa and Hamhuis can still play....Mike Richards is barely a 4th liner, huge difference.


When's the last time a team in a playoff spot sold a good veteran player for picks/prospects during a playoff race? I would exclude "hockey trades" or situations where someone demanded a trade.

He could pass for a 4th guy on a playoff team's depth chart, but if he's on your 2nd pairing you'd definitely need an equally good or preferably better d-man playing with him. He can anchor a 3rd pairing as well. I do think some EDM fans overvalue him because he looks pretty good compared to the rest of this poop they've had over the years.
- Nucker101

He is a nice 5/6 guy

At worst he is a #3
- bezz44

If you're assessing his value, where he slots on our depth chart is irrelevant. He's a good D who is solid defensively, doesn't make a lot of mistakes, doesn't provide offense, doesn't have offensive upside, and doesn't provide a physical presence.

He is also RFA next year, not UFA.

What he deserves is 5 years at $3.75M - $4M.

Just look at the list of D who make over $4M. He either isn't in their class, or they have bigger upside, or they're overpaid and hurting their team's cap situation.

Giving Tanev $4.5M cause we don't currently have someone better is why the Leafs gave half their guys the money they did and are now screwed.

If you're assessing his value, where he slots on our depth chart is irrelevant. He's a good D who is solid defensively, doesn't make a lot of mistakes, doesn't provide offense, doesn't have offensive upside, and doesn't provide a physical presence.

He is also RFA next year, not UFA.

What he deserves is 5 years at $3.75M - $4M.

Just look at the list of D who make over $4M. He either isn't in their class, or they have bigger upside, or they're overpaid and hurting their team's cap situation.

Giving Tanev $4.5M cause we don't currently have someone better is why the Leafs gave half their guys the money they did and are now screwed.
- KB3Point0

Well said