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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:14 PM ET
Glad you broke the news. I didn't want to bring it up.
- Vark37


The dude with Hillary Duff as his avatar (seriously) did
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
I wouldn't go and spew something like that JJ, even if it is a joke with the internet and all today...besides....Troy is a big dude and he can throw 'em
- captainserious


We go together like peas and carrots, cuz so am I
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
Looking forward to the Hawks losing in the 1st round.

Changing of the guard is coming.

Ever since that hawk fan dumped that beer on Pardy can't stand you guys.

- jetsfan6

Thanks for your input or lack thereof now go FRANK OFF
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Feb 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
maybe it was just the morning workout...they did cancel the morning skate, after all!

- dsav123


I dont know the validity to this considering Kane got injured Tuesday night, the team traveled and didnt practice yesterday, and there was no morning skate today

so not sure when this alleged locker room fight happened since Kanes injury
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:15 PM ET
I still think Crawford is the locker room problem. I don't think Sharp is the issue I don't know why....
- Sober-Kaner



Hmmm, maybe both?
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
We go together like peas and carrots, cuz so am I
- John Jaeckel


Vark37
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Joined: 01.08.2014

Feb 26 @ 2:17 PM ET
The dude with Hillary Duff as his avatar (seriously) did
- John Jaeckel

And that avatar should tell you enough.
Tanuki
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.27.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
And apparently, I'm having an affair with Troy Brouwer
- John Jaeckel


Deadspin is offering top $$$ for the video
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:18 PM ET
Hmmm, maybe both?
- John Jaeckel


Sooooo.....Our friendly neighborhood Hawks blogger just gave us a clue...Is this gonna be like an episode of Twin Peaks with backward talking and giants and a little person?
BlazinMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.08.2013

Feb 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
Looking forward to the Hawks losing in the 1st round.

Changing of the guard is coming.

Ever since that hawk fan dumped that beer on Pardy can't stand you guys.

- jetsfan6


One stupid idiot fan doesn't represent the rest, either way, its ok to hate another team.
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:19 PM ET
how can you argue with his point? Chara, a huge imposing/intimidating mountain of a man, and Lucic, a badass dude no matter if you love him or hate him, both there when Savard got knocked out.
- BlazinMike



Lucic, I'd take him in a second, but hate his contract. You're right though, and for that matter the Bruins as a whole are generally a team that doesn't put up with that stuff.
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
And apparently, I'm having an affair with Troy Brouwer
- John Jaeckel


E5
Vark37
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Park Ridge, IL
Joined: 01.08.2014

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
One stupid idiot fan doesn't represent the rest, either way, its ok to hate another team.
- BlazinMike


Well duh, see Canucks, Vancouver. but I don't go on their boards and spout stupid crap.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Sooooo.....Our friendly neighborhood Hawks blogger just gave us a clue...Is this gonna be like an episode of Twin Peaks with backward talking and giants and a little person?
- captainserious



No I just don't think it's one giant problem but maybe a couple of distinct issues. And I don't know for sure. I know one thing for sure and I am keeping it under my hat for now.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and Stan is certainly not above criticism. But can we please dispense with the Stan missed out on Carter and Kesler arguments in addition to the Toews/Kane contracts crippling the team.

Carter and Kesler - if Stan acquired one of those two it would have caused cap issue in the short term and long term. In the short term we'd looking at something like losing Sharp is get Carter or Kesler. Would that have really improved the team? We could argue either way, but the difference would be minimal. In the long term it's likely that Carter or Kesler would have been gone this off season just like Sharp will be. This argument is old and been rehashed several times over, enough is enough.

Toews and Kane - can I please hear some more female doging about how we have two of the top elite forwards in their prime locked up for the long term. It's easy to say that Stan should have signed these guys for $9 - $9.5 million, but none of us were in the negotiations and know what options were available. For all we know Toews and Kane wanted $12 million and Stan got them down to $10.5. This is the cost of doing busy and having 2 superstars on the team. The only other option would have been to trade one or both of them. How would that have worked out? Anyone complaining about these contracts should remember the days when the ABC line was our top unit. So I'll say it again, to those who think Toews and Kane are paid too much - boo (frank)ing hoo, get over it.

Regarding the this trade deadline, yes Stan needs to make a move and yes his job became more difficult. But can we wait until the deadline has passed before ripping Stan apart. If Stan does nothing then he deserves whatever he gets, but until then lets show some patience.

- DarthKane


Both vastly superior to Sharp, especially Carter but probably Kesler when healthy.

If Sharp didn't have a no center clause in his contract he would have been a lot more valuable. Instead you get a one dimensional shootah.

Unless Patrick Kane or probably Ovi to a certain extent, strength up the middle is far better than slightly more talented strength on the wing.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Looking forward to the Hawks losing in the 1st round.

Changing of the guard is coming.

Ever since that hawk fan dumped that beer on Pardy can't stand you guys.

- jetsfan6


You do realize that even after this season, and the offseason moves the Hawks will need to make, they'll still have one of the top 3-ish rosters in terms of pure talent, right? And infinitely better than the Winnipeg Jets.

Just wanted to toss that out there for you... but you keep lumping an entire fan base with one moron that was plastered at a game.
jetsfan6
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.07.2011

Feb 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
Thanks for your input or lack thereof now go FRANK OFF
- BGKarras


Glad I don't have to see that stupid shoot out move that Kane does for the rest of the year.

howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:22 PM ET
Looking forward to the Hawks losing in the 1st round.

Changing of the guard is coming.

Ever since that hawk fan dumped that beer on Pardy can't stand you guys.

- jetsfan6


Changing of the guard? Who's it going to be, you're certainly not suggesting the Jets.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Glad I don't have to see that stupid shoot out move that Kane does for the rest of the year.
- jetsfan6


I'll be glad when the overachieving Jets are finally eliminated in late April.
darkman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gilberts, IL
Joined: 06.03.2013

Feb 26 @ 2:23 PM ET
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and Stan is certainly not above criticism. But can we please dispense with the Stan missed out on Carter and Kesler arguments in addition to the Toews/Kane contracts crippling the team.

Carter and Kesler - if Stan acquired one of those two it would have caused cap issue in the short term and long term. In the short term we'd looking at something like losing Sharp is get Carter or Kesler. Would that have really improved the team? We could argue either way, but the difference would be minimal. In the long term it's likely that Carter or Kesler would have been gone this off season just like Sharp will be. This argument is old and been rehashed several times over, enough is enough.

Toews and Kane - can I please hear some more female doging about how we have two of the top elite forwards in their prime locked up for the long term. It's easy to say that Stan should have signed these guys for $9 - $9.5 million, but none of us were in the negotiations and know what options were available. For all we know Toews and Kane wanted $12 million and Stan got them down to $10.5. This is the cost of doing busy and having 2 superstars on the team. The only other option would have been to trade one or both of them. How would that have worked out? Anyone complaining about these contracts should remember the days when the ABC line was our top unit. So I'll say it again, to those who think Toews and Kane are paid too much - boo (frank)ing hoo, get over it.

Regarding the this trade deadline, yes Stan needs to make a move and yes his job became more difficult. But can we wait until the deadline has passed before ripping Stan apart. If Stan does nothing then he deserves whatever he gets, but until then lets show some patience.

- DarthKane

Thank God for some sanity. Could not agree more.
Also, I love DT as much as anyone else, but what exactly has he done in Florida to warrant his Godlike status from some of the posters on this site? Oh yeah, not so much. Yes he did put together the 2010 team, but let's be honest, some serious luck was involved to be able to get Toews and Kane, and scouting had to be involved in some of the trades that panned out. If he was so great, the panthers should be threatening for the cup every year.
Coca
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 10.14.2009

Feb 26 @ 2:24 PM ET
I'd guess it's Crawford. I've had an issue with him ever since I saw that 4 part Epix series. He acted like a jag any time he was asked a question or on camera. This was around the time he had his incident at the concert as well.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
No I just don't think it's one giant problem but maybe a couple of distinct issues. And I don't know for sure. I know one thing for sure and I am keeping it under my hat for now.
- John Jaeckel


That's cool....at least someone is being honest...

In the end I think all this points to the Hawks not winning the Cup this season...you can't lose a superstar player, not make a quality trade to improve your team and have whatever is going on in the locker room and have a good chance to win the Cup...

At this point Stan should be a seller, and try to unload a bigger contract and try and get a good solid player along with a prospect or picks in return...that way you might have some room to do some fishing in the summer when free agency hits, and maybe get someone who can play a significant role on the lower lines
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Feb 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
One stupid idiot fan doesn't represent the rest, either way, its ok to hate another team.
- BlazinMike



I could give a frank if anyone likes or hates my team, especially the Jets. Haven't liked them since Curtin Martin retired. Oh wait, there's another team with that name?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Thank God for some sanity. Could not agree more.
Also, I love DT as much as anyone else, but what exactly has he done in Florida to warrant his Godlike status from some of the posters on this site? Oh yeah, not so much. Yes he did put together the 2010 team, but let's be honest, some serious luck was involved to be able to get Toews and Kane, and scouting had to be involved in some of the trades that panned out. If he was so great, the panthers should be threatening for the cup every year.

- darkman


Give Mike Smith some credit for 2010 too.

Where I disagree with the post is about how getting Kesler or Carter costing Sharp is a horrible thing. I just flatly disagree.
dsav123
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Feb 26 @ 2:26 PM ET
Looking forward to the Hawks losing in the 1st round.

Changing of the guard is coming.

Ever since that hawk fan dumped that beer on Pardy can't stand you guys.

- jetsfan6



they've already had the changing of the guard...

Gone/out Wheeler, Perreault, Bogosian, Chiarot, Clitsome...

Next shift: Tlusty, Myers, Stafford...
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