Nonis took almost two years to fix a mistake.
He should receive faint praise at most.
- Leafs__Meh_Okay

Yeah but like they say. GMs will make mistakes, good GMs will find a way to fix them.

As terrible as Clarkson's contract is, this a good move for both organizations. It's not necessarily a good move for Columbus from an on ice product perspective, but they're a small market team. On that note, why the hell was Horton's contract not insured?
- Vegas Trotzkies

Probably because they signed him while injured and no insurance company would take that risk knowing his history.

Yeah but like they say. GMs will make mistakes, good GMs will find a way to fix them.
- Steven_Dean

How so. Nonis didn't fix his mistake,ownership did

interesting
rather than pay Clarkson 27.5M over next 5 years, TO gets to pay Horton 26.1M over the same period.

Translation - Clarkson was not going to be part of TO's plan in the future so the gave him away for a $1.4M savings. If Horton ever plays again, then it is a bonus. If not, they either buy him out (can you buy out an injured player?) or pay and smile cause they just saved more than many of us will make in a lifetime.

Praise withdrawn
- JMD007

and re-directed towards shanny.

nonis is not making decisions anymore

interesting
rather than pay Clarkson 27.5M over next 5 years, TO gets to pay Horton 26.1M over the same period.

Translation - Clarkson was not going to be part of TO's plan in the future so the gave him away for a $1.4M savings. If Horton ever plays again, then it is a bonus. If not, they either buy him out (can you buy out an injured player?) or pay and smile cause they just saved more than many of us will make in a lifetime.
- Lostinarink

it's 100% about the cap space. Toronto has money up the yin-yang they don't have cap space.

and re-directed towards shanny.

nonis is not making decisions anymore
- Tumbleweed

Hey, I said in another thread, it must have been Shannys deal. Makes sense.

I think you are wrong. I think this is a win for both teams. Columbus is not a cap team meaning that they will spend the same amount of cash regardless. Horton was 5.3M in dead cash not being used on the ice. Clarkson and his 10 goals / 30 points is better than nothing. Win for Columbus.

Leafs free up $5.25M in cap OR get Horton back some time in the future AND dump Clarkson. Win for Toronto.

Win for EVERYONE!! Lol
- Steven_Dean

Good move for CLB, better move for the Leafs

interesting
rather than pay Clarkson 27.5M over next 5 years, TO gets to pay Horton 26.1M over the same period.

Translation - Clarkson was not going to be part of TO's plan in the future so the gave him away for a $1.4M savings. If Horton ever plays again, then it is a bonus. If not, they either buy him out (can you buy out an injured player?) or pay and smile cause they just saved more than many of us will make in a lifetime.
- Lostinarink

Translation #2 - Your done with us Clarkson - either we will wave you into the minors or you can take your chances with a new start in Columbus. Maybe TO initiated this out of respect for Clarkson.

Translation #2 - Your done with us Clarkson - either we will wave you into the minors or you can take your chances with a new start in Columbus. Maybe TO initiated this out of respect for Clarkson.
- Lostinarink

I fail to see how you are missing what this is about

It sounds like (from listening to Jarmo press conference) that CBJ introduced the idea to Toronto. Columbus was the more desperate team to fix the $$$ issue, but Toronto's own $$$ issues made it a good fit. Looking at it more, it's a good move for both teams. It looks great for Toronto right now, but if they go pay overpay again in the offseason it doesn't really matter. CBJ was really backed up against the wall paying a player to be hurt. Gives both teams more freedom.

A 5.25 MILLION DOLLAR 4TH LINER. THIS TEAM IS A (frank)ING MESS RIGHT NOW!
- blacksheep1

Water bottles will be safe though

I fail to see how you are missing what this is about
- BlowMonkey

You fail to see that there is minimal difference between having Norton on LTIR versus waving Clarkson into the minors and paying him there. Cap is (effectively) 0 for both scenerios. Salary is only $1.4M difference over 5 years.

If I remember correctly, there may be some cap advantages of LTIR, but still....

So what do you think I am missing?

I fail to see how you are missing what this is about
- BlowMonkey

No (frank)ing poop...

How so. Nonis didn't fix his mistake,ownership did
- Bieksa#3

I thought you said Nonis was in charge because Shanahan doesn't know what he's doing?

You fail to see that there is minimal difference between having Norton on LTIR versus waving Clarkson into the minors and paying him there. Cap is (effectively) 0 for both scenerios. Salary is only $1.4M difference over 5 years.

If I remember correctly, there may be some cap advantages of LTIR, but still....

So what do you think I am missing?
- Lostinarink

That's not how it works under the newer CBA. Assigning a player to the AHL saves you only a certain amount if cap space, 900k or something. Look it up.

That's not how it works under the newer CBA. Assigning a player to the AHL saves you only a certain amount if cap space, 900k or something. Look it up.
- Mr_Clean

Good to know - thanks!

Leafs dont care

- DDM-Coga

just (frank)ing AWESOME!!!!

It sounds like (from listening to Jarmo press conference) that CBJ introduced the idea to Toronto. Columbus was the more desperate team to fix the $$$ issue, but Toronto's own $$$ issues made it a good fit. Looking at it more, it's a good move for both teams. It looks great for Toronto right now, but if they go pay overpay again in the offseason it doesn't really matter. CBJ was really backed up against the wall paying a player to be hurt. Gives both teams more freedom.
- vertigo1061

Agreed, apparently the insurance doesn't cover Horton's injury, sadly the hockey world will only will only see this trade on the surface.

You fail to see that there is minimal difference between having Norton on LTIR versus waving Clarkson into the minors and paying him there. Cap is (effectively) 0 for both scenerios. Salary is only $1.4M difference over 5 years.

If I remember correctly, there may be some cap advantages of LTIR, but still....

So what do you think I am missing?
- Lostinarink

what you are missing is toronto saves ALL of hortons cap hit putting him on LTIR and just have to pay him but he doesnt count against the cap at all

what you are missing is toronto saves ALL of hortons cap hit putting him on LTIR and just have to pay him but he doesnt count against the cap at all
- BuzzKiller

Right TO can afford it, cbj cannot,hense the reasonning behind this move.

Yeah but like they say. GMs will make mistakes, good GMs will find a way to fix them.
- Steven_Dean

That's true but:
1. It makes sense for GMs to take a gamble here and there, but this was a bad gamble from the get go. You have to go for it sometimes but you Nonis was splitting 6s.
2. The MLSE board now has a cost of $26 million directly attributable to Nonis making this mistake. He was lucky to have these deep pockets behind him this time.

Nonis now has my unwavering respect. #lolumbus

THANK YOU, COLUMBUS *clap clap clap-clap-clap*






Seriously, I see why this was done from both team's perspectives. I definitely feel like TML win this though...
- lumlums

ya... if they don't turn around and sign/acquire another looser contract to replace it.

win/win.... clarkson will be better in columbus...