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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:38 AM ET
I'm not good with posting link's, sounds stupid doesn't it? but go on yahoo.com andit's the first story.
- SABRES 89


heh, look at that. I guess yahoo is pretty good at knowing wtf we want to see on yahoo.com
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 27 @ 8:38 AM ET
He's going to be an excellent player in this organization. He'll be Briere to Girgensons' Drury.
- TheSabresTaco


I like that analogy...let's hope Heiser a playoff performer like Briere was/is.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:39 AM ET
I like that analogy...let's hope Heiser a playoff performer like Briere was/is.
- IonSabres


Well, he certainly has shown the extra gear in important games. It's in him and I'm hoping it carries through.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 27 @ 8:41 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Tired 'Nucks hand Sabres a win--Some Buffalo fans searching for their meds
- Michael Pachla

This is very exciting
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 27 @ 8:42 AM ET
Or. He was the top prospect in a draft, and that usually means the guy is going to be pretty damn good.


How about we give him a few years before saying "NO chance in hell he is a number one center"

- ImThatGuy



There's no doubt in my mind that he can be a #1 center in this league. The doubt in my mind lies in whether he can be a #1 center on a championship team in this league, and when you go through this sort of hell over the past 3+ years, anything short of a championship team within the next five years is unacceptable.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 27 @ 8:42 AM ET
I think the kid's got the intestinal fortitude and mental strength to take his development very seriously. It was said that increasing his physical strength will improve his skating as well. Give it a year or two and he'll be pushing 205.
- TheSabresTaco


No argument here.
He WILL BE good, very good.
I much prefer McEichel as my #1C...a generational talent.
Has NOTHING. To do with Reinhart failing.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 27 @ 8:45 AM ET
There's no doubt in my mind that he can be a #1 center in this league. The doubt in my mind lies in whether he can be a #1 center on a championship team in this league, and when you go through this sort of hell over the past 3+ years, anything short of a championship team within the next five years is unacceptable.
- buffalofan19


You're on fire today...read less, post more!
That was the argument some can't see.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 27 @ 8:46 AM ET
I think that's just the concern people have. If projections come out correctly, a team with Sam Reinhart as a #2 center sounds like it would be pretty great. A team with Sam Reinhart as its #1 would just be good.
- buffalofan19



It depends. If we don't get McEichel and Reinhart is the 1C, I would think Murray will get some nice complmentary pieces and still be better than good.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:47 AM ET
Spot on 19.
THAT is exactly the way it was positioned, not the inference that he will bust/sucks.
I'm in that camp as well, I do t see him as the key to future success, I do see him being a very good 2C though that will have strong contributions.

- IonSabres


Yes. No one was saying he sucked. I myself said if he was forced to be our number 1 center that He won't score more than 60 pts. I then said he would be better than that being our #2. people need to not twist comments. ryan nugent Hopkins Is a comparable example. He would be a great #2. Being forced to play as there #1 (with hall and eberle) he has not hit 60 points in 4 seasons. No Reinhart does not suck but if he is our #1 I don't see us being a contender for a long long time
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:47 AM ET
If TM is pissed enough, and privately, using that interview from last night, I bet he is. Mitchell? 2 goals? Thanks, now we'll take a 2nd, GTFO. Stewart, 13 in the past 16? We'll take a 1st, now GTFO. Oh, Meszaros finally wants to start trying? Cool, we'll take a 4th, now GTFO. That should help.
- TheSabresTaco


I think he is holding hard and some of the prices may have gone up, that was his plan the whole time, knowing that the talent pool of availability was not great, and with a few guys moving already, he almost holds all the cards. It will just depend if a team is willing to move the asking price. He could also already have an offer for a 1st from say, Blackhawks, but thinks he can do better (lower in 1st round) so he is waiting to hear back from others.

I having been saying for a while that he could get a 1st for Stewart, still seems like overpayment, but I can see some team doing it now. Murray should want a 1st and not a prospect, because the he can easily flip the pick at the draft for a better pick or in a package for a roster player. If he gets a prospect, there is more of a sales job to move again.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
No argument here.
He WILL BE good, very good.
I much prefer McEichel as my #1C...a generational talent.
Has NOTHING. To do with Reinhart failing.

- IonSabres


As do we all, sir. You can't have enough players like Girgensons, Reinhart and McDavid. I'm going to try to make my peace with the fact that we could be landing any one of Marner, McDavid, Eichel, or Strome. No, not Hanifin. God forbid we take a defender with our first pick. Yes, I know Drew Doughty and Aaron Ekblad are great players. Most of us are extremely well aware of the offensive...severe offensive deficiencies of this team. We'll get a great player guys. I'm going to continue taking my Xanax.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
Gotta go to my somewhat. If boy job now.

Will be checking in when the little boy in me comes out.

Enjoy the day...let's hope TM was readingtheboard last night and trades Stewie and Nuevirth to Boston for their 1st. ... And they miss the playoffs!!!
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 27 @ 8:49 AM ET
So it looks like from the article I was just reading on Yahoo that Sharp is the locker room problem and from the sound of it, A problem that has been going on for the Hawks.
- SABRES 89



I read that too. I'll pass on Sharp. Wasn't crazy about him before this.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:50 AM ET
Yes. No one was saying he sucked. I myself said if he was forced to be our number 1 center that He won't score more than 60 pts. I then said he would be better than that being our #2. people need to not twist comments. ryan nugent Hopkins Is a comparable example. He would be a great #2. Being forced to play as there #1 (with hall and eberle) he has not hit 60 points in 4 seasons. No Reinhart does not suck but if he is our #1 I don't see us being a contender for a long long time
- Fattony1187


I mean, I see what you're saying, but why exactly will Reinhart=RNH
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:52 AM ET
I think he is holding hard and some of the prices may have gone up, that was his plan the whole time, knowing that the talent pool of availability was not great, and with a few guys moving already, he almost holds all the cards. It will just depend if a team is willing to move the asking price. He could also already have an offer for a 1st from say, Blackhawks, but thinks he can do better (lower in 1st round) so he is waiting to hear back from others.

I having been saying for a while that he could get a 1st for Stewart, still seems like overpayment, but I can see some team doing it now. Murray should want a 1st and not a prospect, because the he can easily flip the pick at the draft for a better pick or in a package for a roster player. If he gets a prospect, there is more of a sales job to move again.

- Lilroot9


Right now, I'd take the Hawks first. No Patty Kane, a terrible Sharp, average Crawford.. I don't think they've got the goods to last. I wonder if Murray would give his left arm to move into the top 2 if he has to.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 8:53 AM ET
I mean, I see what you're saying, but why exactly will Reinhart=RNH
- TheSabresTaco



Obviously I can't see the future but they were comparable talents in their draft year. not a super strong draft were never considered "elite" guys, Not big bodied etc.... I obviously hope he is more. I think Reinhart will be better defensively but was never projected to be a big scorer. More of a heady two way leader than a scorer. he will be good with Kane being the passer to him letting kane shoot
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 27 @ 8:57 AM ET
Obviously I can't see the future but they were comparable talents in their draft year. not a super strong draft were never considered "elite" guys, Not big bodied etc.... I obviously hope he is more. I think Reinhart will be better defensively but was never projected to be a big scorer. More of a heady two way leader than a scorer. he will be good with Kane being the passer to him letting kane shoot
- Fattony1187


Hey, there's always Joe Thornton. Yeah he's bigger, doesn't pot a lot of goals but the stat sheet looks pretty great every year.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 9:01 AM ET
Hey, there's always Joe Thornton. Yeah he's bigger, doesn't pot a lot of goals but the stat sheet looks pretty great every year.
- TheSabresTaco



I would be pretty happy if he turned into a thornton.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 27 @ 9:03 AM ET
Right now, I'd take the Hawks first. No Patty Kane, a terrible Sharp, average Crawford.. I don't think they've got the goods to last. I wonder if Murray would give his left arm to move into the top 2 if he has to.
- TheSabresTaco


I think he would too, that's why he should not make another "large" trade until the draft, save all the remaining assets in case we need / are able to trade up in draft.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 27 @ 9:03 AM ET
Obviously I can't see the future but they were comparable talents in their draft year. not a super strong draft were never considered "elite" guys, Not big bodied etc.... I obviously hope he is more. I think Reinhart will be better defensively but was never projected to be a big scorer. More of a heady two way leader than a scorer. he will be good with Kane being the passer to him letting kane shoot
- Fattony1187


Yea which one of these scotuing reports says any of that:

Reinhart is a game-changer. His hockey IQ is through the roof and can break down the game at an elite level. Being an older player in the WHL has given him three years of playing time with the Kootenay Ice. He’s as close to NHL ready as anyone in the draft and his skills just bolster that.

An elite talent who is battling to be the 1st overall selection, Reinhart has improved each year in the WHL, recording 105 points this season. He’s a premier set-up center who can also play the wing when needed. A great face-off man, Reinhart shows maturity with the puck well beyond his years. He controls the pace of the game and makes it easy to get by defensemen with his quick hands and dynamic skating.

Sam Reinhart has few issues with his game, if any.


Reinhart is a nice blend of poise, maturity and a high hockey IQ. He’s got creative hands, excellent vision and superb instinct in the offensive end. He’s able to slow things down and dissect the play. He battles hard and is a true team leader
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Feb 27 @ 9:04 AM ET
Right now, I'd take the Hawks first. No Patty Kane, a terrible Sharp, average Crawford.. I don't think they've got the goods to last. I wonder if Murray would give his left arm to move into the top 2 if he has to.
- TheSabresTaco


I would too, but just saying an example of a team, maybe NYR would be better? But they don't have a first. I'm done. Just get it done Murray! No injuries!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
Embrace the tank!!!
burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Feb 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
I really wish we could've helped y'all out but who knows what happened. The guys were complacent. Someone should've started a fight to wake the team up, or laid someone out with a hit or something.

If Desjardins had started Markstrom he might have won it on his own. This was so unexpected, people lost money betting on this game.

Hopefully all those guys get traded and you win the lottery...

- kaptaan


Ya'll should have brought up an ECHL goalie for the game. He would have gotten a shutout. That is how the Sabres roll.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Feb 27 @ 9:18 AM ET
Yea which one of these scotuing reports says any of that:

Reinhart is a game-changer. His hockey IQ is through the roof and can break down the game at an elite level. Being an older player in the WHL has given him three years of playing time with the Kootenay Ice. He’s as close to NHL ready as anyone in the draft and his skills just bolster that.

An elite talent who is battling to be the 1st overall selection, Reinhart has improved each year in the WHL, recording 105 points this season. He’s a premier set-up center who can also play the wing when needed. A great face-off man, Reinhart shows maturity with the puck well beyond his years. He controls the pace of the game and makes it easy to get by defensemen with his quick hands and dynamic skating.

Sam Reinhart has few issues with his game, if any.


Reinhart is a nice blend of poise, maturity and a high hockey IQ. He’s got creative hands, excellent vision and superb instinct in the offensive end. He’s able to slow things down and dissect the play. He battles hard and is a true team leader

- ImThatGuy


Some of the mock draft scouting reports have guys that are going #20 overall sound like the next Wayne Gretzky. not all prospects hit the top of their projections. If I remember correctly scouting reports had Jamarcus Russell as a can't miss elite talent comparable to john elway lol
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
Ya'll should have brought up an ECHL goalie for the game. He would have gotten a shutout. That is how the Sabres roll.
- burner087

antoine forsberg agrees
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