Peters and fans calling on wgr saying we shouldn't trade Stewart for a 1st lol say we should just hold onto him

Toronto trades Clarkson for a retiring Nathan Horton. Shameful they can't lose with dignity.

Peters and fans calling on wgr saying we shouldn't trade Stewart for a 1st lol say we should just hold onto him
- Fattony1187

In a sense I get it because people think he is a building block. I would move him to get the return and still feel good that - if I wanted him - he will be available later. Like Neuvirth, I'm not going to slit my wrists if I can't get him back later.

Peters and fans calling on wgr saying we shouldn't trade Stewart for a 1st lol say we should just hold onto him
- Fattony1187

Some fans just can't let go. TM almost has a responsibility to move these guys before Tuesday and the sooner the better. I'm scared of them playing tomorrow and getting hurt, then we are really screwed.

#2 overall picks have a really shaky history of panning out.

http://www.mynhldraft.com...-picks/2nd-overall/20509/
- sabres2016

That looks like a pretty good list of players to me *shrugs.

That looks like a pretty good list of players to me *shrugs.
- nfph

It was sarcasm.

Toronto trades Clarkson for a retiring Nathan Horton. Shameful they can't lose with dignity.
- nfph

is that considered cap circumventing?

but since it is TO nothing will happen

Although the WJC hardly equals guaranteed NHL success, the one thing Reinhart did was make his line mates better.

He was better than Domi IMO, and was Canada's top forward. Domi was flashy, Reinhart was smart and consistent.

is that considered cap circumventing?

but since it is TO nothing will happen
- IndianaSabresFan

Nope. NHL is fine with it.

James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 22m22 minutes ago
Bill Daly says the league had "no concerns" about the Clarkson-Horton deal. "We look at every trade" for CBA compliance, he says.

is that considered cap circumventing?

but since it is TO nothing will happen
- IndianaSabresFan

Not at all. It is no different than Chicago putting Kane on LT IR and spending the savings from his cap hit. This is the kind of move that teams with rich owners can make. We took on Kotalik's contract and essentially bought a 2nd rounder - not quite the same thing but it is an advantage that we also have.

In a sense I get it because people think he is a building block. I would move him to get the return and still feel good that - if I wanted him - he will be available later. Like Neuvirth, I'm not going to slit my wrists if I can't get him back later.
- Slump Buster

i figured all along there would be a market for stewart. id like him here next year but you have to trade him if you are gonna get something useful back. i never heard anything about murray trying to extend him. guess the only risk is him getting blown away in free agency- to the point that its just not worth matching.

That looks like a pretty good list of players to me *shrugs.
- nfph

Ya a lot of "good players". For every malkin there is a j. Stahl, JVR and bobby Ryan. All good players but they are all complements. So if we miss out on mcheichel this year and draft say 3 or 4 and grab marner or strome, him and Reinhart will be our top 2 guys. so compare them to stahl JVR or Ryan how much better is our team. Hell for comparison sake let's say instead of Reinhart or strome we have j. Stahl and bobby Ryan (two recent #2 overalls) on our team RIGHT now. What would our record be???

Kane/J.Stahl/Ryan
Mouson/ennis/grigorenko
Foligno/girgensons/Gionta


we better hope Reinhart and who we draft at 3-4 if we miss mceichel turns out better than those previous #2s. That team is not winning playoff games

Although the WJC hardly equals guaranteed NHL success, the one thing Reinhart did was make his line mates better.

He was better than Domi IMO, and was Canada's top forward. Domi was flashy, Reinhart was smart and consistent.
- sbroads24

People got so pissed off on here when that was said after the WJC...
I thought they were both great and couldn't really say which one was better but I really loved Sampson's game.

http://espn.go.com/blog/n...-about-obtaining-clarkson

Senators had talks with Leafs about obtaining Clarkson

That looks like a pretty good list of players to me *shrugs.
- nfph

Busts. None of those guys can single handedly carry a team to the cup finals.

I get trying to move Stewart. Benoit and Meszaros are gone anyway, but I wouldn't mind keeping Neuvirth and Mitchell around after this season. What's the point of having umpteen 3rd/4th/5th round picks?

i figured all along there would be a market for stewart. id like him here next year but you have to trade him if you are gonna get something useful back. i never heard anything about murray trying to extend him. guess the only risk is him getting blown away in free agency- to the point that its just not worth matching.
- rover16

Exactly. No-brainer to move him and I'd be open to bringing him back as a reasonbly-priced 3rd line winger.

I get trying to move Stewart. Benoit and Meszaros are gone anyway, but I wouldn't mind keeping Neuvirth and Mitchell around after this season. What's the point of having umpteen 3rd/4th/5th round picks?
- bigolbig

1) to get worse this year

(distant 2nd)

2) We will get (at the minimum) a second rounder for Stewart. As for the others... see reason #1

Exactly. No-brainer to move him and I'd be open to bringing him back as a reasonbly-priced 3rd line winger.
- Slump Buster

Would he be open to that though?

People got so pissed off on here when that was said after the WJC...
I thought they were both great and couldn't really say which one was better but I really loved Sampson's game.
- jochfr

A lot of the stuff Domi did won't translate in the NHL.

Reinhart's intelligence and passing will.

Would he be open to that though?
- jochfr

he may not have a choice.. i think it has been shown that he is no more than a 3rd in this league.

Would he be open to that though?
- jochfr

If not, move on. I can't imagine given the status of the cap that he is going to get 4 mill a year again.

I can't imagine why Ottawa was interested in Clarkson as they have significant financial problems as it is.

Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun · now

As @DarrenDreger reports, Bruins trying on Vermette; can also say B's still trying on Chris Stewart as well... among others

Although the WJC hardly equals guaranteed NHL success, the one thing Reinhart did was make his line mates better.

He was better than Domi IMO, and was Canada's top forward. Domi was flashy, Reinhart was smart and consistent.
- sbroads24

There really was no question that Reinhart was the best forward.