Think he's talking about next season as Baertschi is not waiver eligible. I think there's a period of 12 games where all players are waiver exempt but, after that, he'll either stay with the Canucks for the entire season or play all of next season with the Comets. - AlexF
It is a legit complaint IMO, but I'm sure Benning took it into consideration before making the deal. Vey has been fine in his rookie season but it would of been nice to have the option to send him back. Sven will be in the same boat next year.
I always get a kick out of how extraordinarily valuable draft picks seem to be when they are still picks, far less so when they turn into an actual person. The success rate at the NHL level of anyone past the 1st Rd is statistically poor. Baertschi is a somewhat known quantity several years more developed with real upside. To say that an unknown 18 year old drafted at pick #46 is a better option is silly. - AlexF
I'm happy with the Sven pickup, the clendening less so. What you say is true but it is also true that an older player no matter their previous pedigree has less time to develop than a newly drafted prospect. Yes many 2nd round picks don't work out but you get years to develop them, an older prospect has a shorter window.
It is a legit complaint IMO, but I'm sure Benning took it into consideration before making the deal. Vey has been fine in his rookie season but it would of been nice to have the option to send him back. Sven will be in the same boat next year. - belcherbd
I like some of the skill Vey has shown this year. I think he has gotten better on the battles and will improve. He makes mistakes but he is a rookie. I see him much like a Mason Raymond in two more years.
Nice pickup . He will be one year further along in Development than Baerschi. It's all good
It's funny and sad that the best guy on Team 1040 is Scotty Rintoul. He was so bad when he started, but he's actually become quite good. - Scooby_Doo
and now he's the evening guy... I think he still is???
Yea he can pretty much run a show by himself... whereas the other guys are questionable. I like BMac though... still good IMO, despite despression issues.
Yea.... jury is still out on Vey, with me anyway... I think him and Baertschi may be fighting it out for a spot next year. - nelson911
It really depends on what mgmt does with Ufa's and vets.
Sven, vey, jensen,shinkaeuk, gaunce mccann, virtanen and kenins all have a possibility of earning a spot next year, most are unlikely. If 3 of Matthias, dorsett, richardson, Higgins, Hansen, Kassian are moved I think it is possible to see both vey and sven in the bigs.
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Mar 3 @ 4:19 PM ET
It's funny and sad that the best guy on Team 1040 is Scotty Rintoul. He was so bad when he started, but he's actually become quite good. - Scooby_Doo
He was just the worst when he had his morning show, no flow whatsoever. Felt like he was scripted and any chance they had at a natural discussion was cut off by him. Haven't heard him since, but maybe being solo on nights hides that
It really depends on what mgmt does with Ufa's and vets.
Sven, vey, jensen,shinkaeuk, gaunce mccann, virtanen and kenins all have a possibility of earning a spot next year, most are unlikely. If 3 of Matthias, dorsett, richardson, Higgins, Hansen, Kassian are moved I think it is possible to see both vey and sven in the bigs. - belcherbd
Yea you could see it... I wonder how much Matthias is gonna want... I would be leaning towards player like him and less of ones like Higgins. Kassian could go either way, you just know mgmt has something against him, but if he puts it together you're gonna want him.
I always get a kick out of how extraordinarily valuable draft picks seem to be when they are still picks, far less so when they turn into an actual person. The success rate at the NHL level of anyone past the 1st Rd is statistically poor. Baertschi is a somewhat known quantity several years more developed with real upside. To say that an unknown 18 year old drafted at pick #46 is a better option is silly. - AlexF
I think it works both ways. To counter your argument I can say I would have rather preferred another 1st rnd pick from Anaheim then Sbisa.
But I believe it is more to do with prospects from another team that we didn't draft. We are penciling in Shink and Jensen into our top 6 (both taken in 1st rnd) but we feel a more offensively gifted player is not worth a 2nd. We seem to have a lot of sheep in the city. If the talk shows talk about how Sven trade was horrible because we gave up a second yet lauds the move to get Dorsett a perennial 4th liner for a 3rd as a great move the masses start paraphrasing. Don't get me wrong I love the Dorsett move but the optics remain the same. A career 3/4th liner for 3rd rnd pick is great but a potential top 6 forward for a 2nd is horrible. By comparison, TB traded Connolly for 2* 2nds and that is called a great trade.
Yea you could see it... I wonder how much Matthias is gonna want... I would be leaning towards player like him and less of ones like Higgins. Kassian could go either way, you just know mgmt has something against him, but if he puts it together you're gonna want him. - nelson911
Let's say Baerschi and Vey make the club next year , Kassian stays with the Sedins and Matthias signs for 3.5-4 mil and scores 20. If Burrows and Higgins are moved that's 7 mil out and 7 mil in for 4 spots as opposed to 2 and we pick up 2x top 6 forwards
I think it works both ways. To counter your argument I can say I would have rather preferred another 1st rnd pick from Anaheim then Sbisa.
But I believe it is more to do with prospects from another team that we didn't draft. We are penciling in Shink and Jensen into our top 6 (both taken in 1st rnd) but we feel a more offensively gifted player is not worth a 2nd. We seem to have a lot of sheep in the city. If the talk shows talk about how Sven trade was horrible because we gave up a second yet lauds the move to get Dorsett a perennial 4th liner for a 3rd as a great move the masses start paraphrasing. Don't get me wrong I love the Dorsett move but the optics remain the same. A career 3/4th liner for 3rd rnd pick is great but a potential top 6 forward for a 2nd is horrible. By comparison, TB traded Connolly for 2* 2nds and that is called a great trade. - Linden_4_Capt
Let's say Baerschi and Vey make the club next year , Kassian stays with the Sedins and Matthias signs for 3.5-4 mil and scores 20. If Burrows and Higgins are moved that's 7 mil out and 7 mil in for 4 spots as opposed to 2 and we pick up 2x top 6 forwards - VANTEL
Yea... I would also suggest putting together some kind of package for Ryan O' Reilly. Dominant two way centre.... he's gonna want something in the 6's but I think he'd be worth it.
Let's say Baerschi and Vey make the club next year , Kassian stays with the Sedins and Matthias signs for 3.5-4 mil and scores 20. If Burrows and Higgins are moved that's 7 mil out and 7 mil in for 4 spots as opposed to 2 and we pick up 2x top 6 forwards - VANTEL
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Mar 3 @ 4:36 PM ET
I think it works both ways. To counter your argument I can say I would have rather preferred another 1st rnd pick from Anaheim then Sbisa.
But I believe it is more to do with prospects from another team that we didn't draft. We are penciling in Shink and Jensen into our top 6 (both taken in 1st rnd) but we feel a more offensively gifted player is not worth a 2nd. We seem to have a lot of sheep in the city. If the talk shows talk about how Sven trade was horrible because we gave up a second yet lauds the move to get Dorsett a perennial 4th liner for a 3rd as a great move the masses start paraphrasing. Don't get me wrong I love the Dorsett move but the optics remain the same. A career 3/4th liner for 3rd rnd pick is great but a potential top 6 forward for a 2nd is horrible. By comparison, TB traded Connolly for 2* 2nds and that is called a great trade. - Linden_4_Capt
Who called that a great trade? - A_SteamingLombardi
Its not going to be an early second rounder. That could be a good trade. It is a stop gap measure. I wouldn't call it a bad move. 2nd rounder is alright for a 13th overall in 2011. Connelly's development didn't get him into the league until this year and he isn't in the top 6. Being from PG I am a big Connelly fan. Sven is a year younger and I think he is a way more skilled player. Brett has been able get his skills to the NHL level I see no reason why Sven can't do the same. I think this was a more than fair trade.
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I always get a kick out of how extraordinarily valuable draft picks seem to be when they are still picks, far less so when they turn into an actual person. The success rate at the NHL level of anyone past the 1st Rd is statistically poor. Baertschi is a somewhat known quantity several years more developed with real upside. To say that an unknown 18 year old drafted at pick #46 is a better option is silly. - AlexF
Yup, and honestly at 22 y/o he has 28 points in 66 NHL GP I would hardly call that a failure
We traded our 3rd this year for Pedan and 2nd in this deal. So after the first there's no picks until the 4th. With the logjam of forwards up front I'd imagine the plan is to move a veteran at the draft for a 2nd or 3rd. - Nucker101
Our 3rd next yr went for pedan. 3rd this yr went with kesler
Its not going to be an early second rounder. That could be a good trade. It is a stop gap measure. I wouldn't call it a bad move. 2nd rounder is alright for a 13th overall in 2011. Connelly's development didn't get him into the league until this year and he isn't in the top 6. Being from PG I am a big Connelly fan. Sven is a year younger and I think he is a way more skilled player. Brett has been able get his skills to the NHL level I see no reason why Sven can't do the same. I think this was a more than fair trade. - thundachunk
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Mar 3 @ 5:29 PM ET
The guy I can't stand is Jeff Paterson
Dude is always stumbling through his thoughts and sounds like this guy:
- PetrolSexual
Dude is Admiral bipolar. One game he is sunshine and roses, and following a loss the sky is falling. If I want to hear a bunch of bipolars ranting I will come on here, not listen to the radio
