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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:17 PM ET
Does anyone else have the problem of not being able to watch gamecenter on the computer? It tells me I need to sign up, but I can watch it on my xbox and I get charged monthly. Wtf?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:19 PM ET
Does anyone else have the problem of not being able to watch gamecenter on the computer? It tells me I need to sign up, but I can watch it on my xbox and I get charged monthly. Wtf?
- znagle



Just use firstrowsports.eu for games on your pc
Johnny Wrath
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Draft more Swedes, CA
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 4 @ 7:19 PM ET
Does anyone else have the problem of not being able to watch gamecenter on the computer? It tells me I need to sign up, but I can watch it on my xbox and I get charged monthly. Wtf?
- znagle

No idea. I'm looking for a free streaming source.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:19 PM ET
Even better, are we going to sit here and bag on Cole then when it happens? Or will it be, well...we only traded Bortz for him, no big deal...you can honestly tell me, that Scuds doesnt put his paired partner in a bad position many times a game?
- Thorny


Even better? You root for Penguins' players to struggle?!?
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Mar 4 @ 7:27 PM ET
Even better? You root for Penguins' players to struggle?!?
- hardnosed



I root for the jersey...not the name, but I also am not blind to what happens on the ice...you didn't answer my question, instead just deflected it...so please, answer.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Mar 4 @ 7:28 PM ET
Firstrowsports is a good free service for NHL games but is no means a replacement for Gamecenter. I would try and get that to work.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:31 PM ET
Firstrowsports is a good free service for NHL games but is no means a replacement for Gamecenter. I would try and get that to work.
- nelson911


Yeah I've used it before, I don't feel like waiting half an hour for customer service so I'll probably wait until tomorrow during work
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 4 @ 7:35 PM ET
hockeystreams
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:37 PM ET
I root for the jersey...not the name, but I also am not blind to what happens on the ice...you didn't answer my question, instead just deflected it...so please, answer.
- Thorny


It happens a few times a game, just like it happens to all defensemen when there's pressure on the forecheck.

It's just people pay attention when it happens to Scuderi, because they're invested in being "right" about him sucking. He DID suck last year coming off injury, but he hasn't sucked this year. Some people are okay digesting the new evidence and forming a new opinion, others aren't.

It's just human nature and I mostly try to ignore it.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
hockeystreams
- BulliesPhan87

".com"?
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:41 PM ET
It happens a few times a game, just like it happens to all defensemen when there's pressure on the forecheck.

It's just people pay attention when it happens to Scuderi, because they're invested in being "right" about him sucking. He DID suck last year coming off injury, but he hasn't sucked this year. Some people are okay digesting the new evidence and forming a new opinion, others aren't.

It's just human nature and I mostly try to ignore it.

- hardnosed


Exactly. Everyone female doges about him but don't realize it happens to everyone. Like I say, he is probably overpaid .75 mil and has a year too long on his deal, but he is a great bottom pair guy. His deal was a bargain at the signing as he was brought in to pair with Letang. I have no problem paying Scuds.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 4 @ 7:42 PM ET
Exactly. Everyone female doges about him but don't realize it happens to everyone. Like I say, he is probably overpaid .75 mil and has a year too long on his deal, but he is a great bottom pair guy. His deal was a bargain at the signing as he was brought in to pair with Letang. I have no problem paying Scuds.
- znagle

Are you talking about Scuderi? Overpaid by "0.75M"? Make that "1.5-2M"
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Mar 4 @ 7:45 PM ET
It happens a few times a game, just like it happens to all defensemen when there's pressure on the forecheck.

It's just people pay attention when it happens to Scuderi, because they're invested in being "right" about him sucking. He DID suck last year coming off injury, but he hasn't sucked this year. Some people are okay digesting the new evidence and forming a new opinion, others aren't.

It's just human nature and I mostly try to ignore it.

- hardnosed



Ill be the first to admit he has been better this year, but he still isn't someone I would trust. Seems to me that teams make it a point to really go after Scuds, because they know he lacks the skill to make a lot tape to tape passes to leave the zone, so he will just go off the glass and out...like handing the puck back over again and again... He does it more than a few times a game, when the puck hits his stick, its like flow just stops....and its either going off the wall and out, or he is sending it back around behind the net...and you know the opposing forwards know this, so its constantly putting pressure on his partner to make the correct play every time. I will probably only watch the first two periods of the game tonight, and I bet he will do it at least 10 times in those two periods...that is my problem. There was plenty of blame to put on Despres also, but Scuds didn't do him any favors a lot of the time either.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:47 PM ET
Are you talking about Scuderi? Overpaid by "0.75M"? Make that "1.5-2M"
- Barnaby36


Yes, and no he isn't. Everyone latches onto the fact that last year he was hurt, as well as Disco Dan's system left our D/G out to dry constantly. Also because he is older and has term left on his deal, like Kunitz who is producing and being paid like a top 6 winger.

I swear, some Pens fans would female dog about winning the Cup
Thorny
Location: OH
Joined: 10.15.2011

Mar 4 @ 7:48 PM ET
Exactly. Everyone female doges about him but don't realize it happens to everyone. Like I say, he is probably overpaid .75 mil and has a year too long on his deal, but he is a great bottom pair guy. His deal was a bargain at the signing as he was brought in to pair with Letang. I have no problem paying Scuds.
- znagle



A bargain singing? whaaaaaaaaaat....great, he can play the PK...he is the Adams of our defense
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 4 @ 7:48 PM ET
Yes, and no he isn't. Everyone latches onto the fact that last year he was hurt, as well as Disco Dan's system left our D/G out to dry constantly. Also because he is older and has term left on his deal, like Kunitz who is producing and being paid like a top 6 winger.

I swear, some Pens fans would female dog about winning the Cup

- znagle

Right now Scuderi would find a real hard time to sign any contract above $2M/year.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Mar 4 @ 7:49 PM ET
A bargain singing? whaaaaaaaaaat....great, he can play the PK...he is the Adams of our defense
- Thorny

Exactly.

And Lovejoy will be our Spaling so vanilla....at least does the things right and don't mess too much.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:52 PM ET
Ill be the first to admit he has been better this year, but he still isn't someone I would trust. Seems to me that teams make it a point to really go after Scuds, because they know he lacks the skill to make a lot tape to tape passes to leave the zone, so he will just go off the glass and out...like handing the puck back over again and again... He does it more than a few times a game, when the puck hits his stick, its like flow just stops....and its either going off the wall and out, or he is sending it back around behind the net...and you know the opposing forwards know this, so its constantly putting pressure on his partner to make the correct play every time. I will probably only watch the first two periods of the game tonight, and I bet he will do it at least 10 times in those two periods...that is my problem. There was plenty of blame to put on Despres also, but Scuds didn't do him any favors a lot of the time either.
- Thorny


Literally every defenseman chips it off the glass to exit the zone. They do it to kill pressure and make the other team regroup. The other team then changes lines and fires the puck in and it's then headed into their zone or battled for on the boards. They also do it to get a line change for their own team and too get the puck to a position where the forward has a chance at it. It's hockey, and I guarantee if you watch the other teams they do the exact same thing all the way down to peewee hockey. The angle we see watching the game on TV are much different than what's actually happening down on the ice, especially when you have split seconds to make a play against the worlds best. Usually it is the safe play, which Scuderi is great at.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:53 PM ET
It happens a few times a game, just like it happens to all defensemen when there's pressure on the forecheck.

It's just people pay attention when it happens to Scuderi, because they're invested in being "right" about him sucking. He DID suck last year coming off injury, but he hasn't sucked this year. Some people are okay digesting the new evidence and forming a new opinion, others aren't.

It's just human nature and I mostly try to ignore it.

- hardnosed


I dont think I fall into this category.

I agree he's better this season. Even disregarding his value compared to contract, but could be replaced by almost any veteran defensive defenseman.

Even this year, he still isn't good enough defensively to make up for how inept he is in transition and offensively.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:57 PM ET
A bargain singing? whaaaaaaaaaat....great, he can play the PK...he is the Adams of our defense
- Thorny


Let me know which one of these top defenseman you would rather sign then.

http://www.mynhltraderumo...hl-free-agent-defensemen/

Like I said, at the time it was the best option. He was brought to pair with Letang in the top 2-4.
znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 10.02.2014

Mar 4 @ 7:59 PM ET
Right now Scuderi would find a real hard time to sign any contract above $2M/year.
- Barnaby36


Look at Engelland's deal. Someone would definitely sign him to the 3.375M contract he has now.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 4 @ 7:59 PM ET
Ill be the first to admit he has been better this year, but he still isn't someone I would trust. Seems to me that teams make it a point to really go after Scuds, because they know he lacks the skill to make a lot tape to tape passes to leave the zone, so he will just go off the glass and out...like handing the puck back over again and again... He does it more than a few times a game, when the puck hits his stick, its like flow just stops....and its either going off the wall and out, or he is sending it back around behind the net...and you know the opposing forwards know this, so its constantly putting pressure on his partner to make the correct play every time. I will probably only watch the first two periods of the game tonight, and I bet he will do it at least 10 times in those two periods...that is my problem. There was plenty of blame to put on Despres also, but Scuds didn't do him any favors a lot of the time either.
- Thorny


See, I think they were a genuinely solid tandem. A lot of those instances when Scuds just gets the puck out of the zone it's because it's the right play. There have been a million times in the last few years where if a D just cleared the puck and lived to fight another day, the team would have been better off.

It might hurt his "advanced" stats, but often it's the right hockey play to make, and it's who he is as a hockey player.

I know per the quotes from the coaching staff that they're a big fan of Scuderi's decision making.

I'd love to have someone better than Scuderi, especially 5 on 5. I still even hope they buy him out this summer, because by next playoff season he's going to have even more mileage on him.

But I just don't buy into the idea that he's a detriment to his partner, and I certainly don't buy into the idea that he was a detriment to Despres.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Mar 4 @ 8:00 PM ET
Literally every defenseman chips it off the glass to exit the zone. They do it to kill pressure and make the other team regroup. The other team then changes lines and fires the puck in and it's then headed into their zone or battled for on the boards. They also do it to get a line change for their own team and too get the puck to a position where the forward has a chance at it. It's hockey, and I guarantee if you watch the other teams they do the exact same thing all the way down to peewee hockey. The angle we see watching the game on TV are much different than what's actually happening down on the ice, especially when you have split seconds to make a play against the worlds best. Usually it is the safe play, which Scuderi is great at.
- znagle


No kidding. But high off the glass is always the last option. It's a panic play. It's temporarily resetting to let them come right after you again.

That's why puck moving D man are so coveted around the league. They have the puck skills to make a move in tight, or on the boards, or with a guy draped over them and get the puck to a forward.

The argument you are making is like saying forwards should dump the puck in every single time because its the safe play. Or that Fleury should not worry about giving up rebounds and just make sure he stops the first shot.

Safe plays are very important, but when the safety valve is your comfort zone, then its an issue.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 4 @ 8:02 PM ET
I dont think I fall into this category.

I agree he's better this season. Even disregarding his value compared to contract, but could be replaced by almost any veteran defensive defenseman.

Even this year, he still isn't good enough defensively to make up for how inept he is in transition and offensively.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Did you read the quotes from Lapierre about how he loves the fact that everyone on the roster right now know their role and plays it? Scuderi knows his role and plays it.

In a perfect world, they'd have 6 mobile veteran defensemen with puck skills, great decision making, size and defensive acumen. Which would leave Scuderi without a role.

I just don't believe they're there yet, and I believe that Scuderi prevents enough goals both 5 on 5 and PK to make up for the fact that he's not going to help create offense very often.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Mar 4 @ 8:05 PM ET
No kidding. But high off the glass is always the last option. It's a panic play. It's temporarily resetting to let them come right after you again.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I wouldn't call it a panic play. But the thing about Scuderi that I'm sure the coaching staff like is that he doesn't hesitate to go off the glass. He's decisive about it. It might prevent him from making the perfect play, but it keeps him from making the wrong play.

Like I said, not going to help your team score goals, but helps the team keep the puck out of the net.

It's like Patton said (paraphrasing) - a shoddy plan executed violently today is better than a perfect plan executed perfectly next week.
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