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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
Its been a total disaster. In Holmgrens defense though....Who would have ever guessed a future HOF'er, 50 goal scorer, Olympic World Cup Champion, 400 career goal scoring player would fall flat on his face at the age of 32-33??!! Thats Flyers luck right there.
- GOA88



He was a player in decline, but was still a pretty good player his last year in TB. Once he had the back injury last year, he was never the same.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
He was a player in decline, but was still a pretty good player his last year in TB. Once he had the back injury last year, he was never the same.
- MJL

Yea, thats pretty much what did him in.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 10 @ 2:05 PM ET
Use it as a carrot for him to perform better at ES?

And who is to say it isn't Top 4 in spite of Brayden Schenn?

- johndewar


This. B Schenn is the 5th wheel out there and I don't think they'd miss a beat without him. Again, what is there to lose in trying?
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:08 PM ET
This. B Schenn is the 5th wheel out there and I don't think they'd miss a beat without him. Again, what is there to lose in trying?
- wolfhounds

Schenn would be a damn good player if he played with intensity every game. He usually steps his game up in the playoffs.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Mar 10 @ 2:08 PM ET
Its been a total disaster. In Holmgrens defense though....Who would have ever guessed a future HOF'er, 50 goal scorer, Olympic World Cup Champion, 400 career goal scoring player would fall flat on his face at the age of 32-33??!! Thats Flyers luck right there.
- GOA88


Well....the Flyers were kind of going against the tide, in terms of what usually happens to players when they hit that age. You definitely take a risk when you sign a guy at that age, with that many miles.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 10 @ 2:10 PM ET
Schenn would be a damn good player if he played with intensity every game. He usually steps his game up in the playoffs.
- GOA88


Yup. He's got the talent, apparently lacks the will.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 10 @ 2:11 PM ET
Lehtonen for Mason
- NoobasaurusRex

touche
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 2:12 PM ET
as the greenday song goes: wake me up when the season ends...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 2:13 PM ET
Schenn would be a damn good player if he played with intensity every game. He usually steps his game up in the playoffs.
- GOA88

maybe he does play with intensity but is just terrible
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 2:14 PM ET
Yup. He's got the talent, apparently lacks the will.
- wolfhounds


Hockey sense doesn't run strong in that family.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 2:14 PM ET
He was a player in decline, but was still a pretty good player his last year in TB. Once he had the back injury last year, he was never the same.
- MJL

i told you everyone before that season started it was a mistake signing him.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:14 PM ET
Well....the Flyers were kind of going against the tide, in terms of what usually happens to players when they hit that age. You definitely take a risk when you sign a guy at that age, with that many miles.
- johndewar

Or you could have a player like Jagr, Recchi, Weight, Iginla, etc., etc. etc....that perform well into their late 30's. WTF VINNNNNNYYYYY!!!!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 2:15 PM ET
Hockey sense doesn't run strong in that family.
- Tomahawk

i think they are just great minor league players
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:15 PM ET
Hockey sense doesn't run strong in that family.
- Tomahawk

Thats for damn sure.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 10 @ 2:15 PM ET
Schenn would be a damn good player if he played with intensity every game. He usually steps his game up in the playoffs.
- GOA88

plays his best hockey against the Pens too

that will be what I say after he is traded and goes on to flourish with another team

I'm sort of joking here, I think if Hexy can make a hockey trade and get a young/same age scoring wing back in the deal it may get done

I don't see them trading low on Schenn just to make a deal though
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 2:16 PM ET
Use it as a carrot for him to perform better at ES?

And who is to say it isn't Top 4 in spite of Brayden Schenn?

- johndewar


Better to keep him up there if it's still working -- not sure the team would be any better off w/ him on PP2.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:16 PM ET
maybe he does play with intensity but is just terrible
- JoeRussomanno

I mean, thats easy to say but he has shown that he has the skill and physicality to be very effective. Problem is he usually only displays that in a handful of games a season and the playoffs.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 2:17 PM ET
plays his best hockey against the Pens too

that will be what I say after he is traded and goes on to flourish with another team

I'm sort of joking here, I think if Hexy can make a hockey trade and get a young/same age scoring wing back in the deal it may get done

I don't see them trading low on Schenn just to make a deal though

- Marc D

ya know im guilty of trashing this club when they give up perhaps too early, but i wonder how many theyve given up on that actually didnt pan out later.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 2:17 PM ET
You guys will like Martel, I saw him play the last few years with the Armada. Small but very fast skater. He's feisty and doesn't take a night off.

I was wondering if he would be recruited by the Habs, but then again, he would have been just another midget with them. I'm happy to see that a team has given him a chance.

Those are the kind of moves that don't cost an organization much, and you never know.

- stinger67


Is he more a center or winger? They need help at both in the system.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 2:17 PM ET
I mean, thats easy to say but he has shown that he has the skill and physicality to be very effective. Problem is he usually only displays that in a handful of games a season and the playoffs.
- GOA88

i know, im just in a pissy mood and feel like taking it out on the poopty team
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:18 PM ET
plays his best hockey against the Pens too

that will be what I say after he is traded and goes on to flourish with another team

I'm sort of joking here, I think if Hexy can make a hockey trade and get a young/same age scoring wing back in the deal it may get done

I don't see them trading low on Schenn just to make a deal though

- Marc D

I'd be fine if he is traded for a winger. However.... I think they really need to evaluate who to trade. Schenn, Couts or Laughton. Laughton has'nt had the chance to fail yet, per say. The other two only give you flashes what they could be. Very frustrating.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:19 PM ET
i know, im just in a pissy mood and feel like taking it out on the poopty team
- JoeRussomanno

I'm right there with you. I'm pissed a quite a few players this season.
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 2:20 PM ET
Is he more a center or winger? They need help at both in the system.
- Jsaquella

When I looked him up. His position said LW.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 10 @ 2:20 PM ET
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 2:21 PM ET
i think they are just great minor league players
- JoeRussomanno


IMO Schenn needs a couple of speedy wingers to back the D up to give him room to shoot from the high slot -- that was his bread and butter in junior.

Raffl/Schenn/Read

- or -

Raffl/Schenn/Voracek



Luke just needs another FHOF'er to carry his water for him.
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