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feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:26 PM ET
What's become so ridiculous about his personnel management then?
- MJL

What hasn't become ridiculous?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 10 @ 5:26 PM ET
Can't wait until we have a good Philly sports team again


in 2037
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
When asked why he did it, Kelly responded, “Because I just wanted to, that’s why."
- feelingkettle

Ridiculous, if true.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
What hasn't become ridiculous?
- feelingkettle


I don't see anything that is ridiculous personally.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
It's beautiful, isn't it? In a twisted sort of way.
- feelingkettle


Like watching giant dominoes fall
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
Ridiculous, if true.
- BulliesPhan87

It's not, but that's what Berube told him to say.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:31 PM ET
I don't see anything that is ridiculous personally.
- MJL

Not a fan of his management of goalies, and scratching VCL over and over and the defense carousel. All the while Umberger lasts 60+ games, not to mention his position on an infertile 2nd powerplay unit has been safe for most of the year. And when he finally scratches him when they have no shot at the playoffs, he says "I felt like it."
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 10 @ 5:31 PM ET
definitely about an hour late here, but holy NFL right now.

reactions?

has anyone actually seen a definitive final word on the deal. was it a one for one swap or were picks involved?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 10 @ 5:33 PM ET
Eagles trade Nick Foles. Interesting.
- MJL

Stupid move.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 10 @ 5:35 PM ET
I wasn't in favor of replacing him until the last couple of weeks. His personnel management has become ridiculous. People ripped Laviolette for the goalie carousel and now Berube is pulling this poop for no apparent reason, or none that he'd like to admit. He's lost me and seems like he's lost the team. They aren't playing like they like him, that's for sure.

GOODBYE BEROOBIE

- feelingkettle


*Umberger has seen regular PP time all season long.

*Rinaldo was seeing a regular shift on the second line with Raffl and Simmonds all in the name of not breaking up Vandevelde, Bellemare and Lecavalier as a fourth line before taking a 6 game suspension.

*Mason once again for the third straight time hasn't missed a start since returning from re-aggravating an injury.

*After playing terrible, Lecavalier was sat for 7 straight games. It was told by us that Lecavalier was working hard in practice and that he'll return when he feels he's ready. Lecavalier returned and actually produced on the fourth line but was never moved up.

I don't know about you guys but I've worked at jobs where things started off well but after a while I didn't feel like I was getting much of a fair shake and I stopped giving a poop.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 5:36 PM ET
Not a fan of his management of goalies, and scratching VCL over and over and the defense carousel. All the while Umberger lasts 60+ games, not to mention his position on an infertile 2nd powerplay unit has been safe for most of the year. And when he finally scratches him when they have no shot at the playoffs, he says "I felt like it."
- feelingkettle


I personally don't see any problem with his management of goalies. I don't think anyone agrees with every move any coach makes. Lecavalier hasn't exactly cemented his spot in the lineup. I think things happen when a coach has limited options, but nobody wants to consider what the alternatives were, as part of the equation. The last, that's just coach speak, and declining to discuss why he chose now. I'm sure he has his reasons for that. Nothing there that is ridiculous in my opinion. To each his own.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
*Umberger has seen regular PP time all season long.

*Rinaldo was seeing a regular shift on the second line with Raffl and Simmonds all in the name of not breaking up Vandevelde, Bellemare and Lecavalier as a fourth line before taking a 6 game suspension.

*Mason once again for the third straight time hasn't missed a start since returning from re-aggravating an injury.

*After playing terrible, Lecavalier was sat for 7 straight games. It was told by us that Lecavalier was working hard in practice and that he'll return when he feels he's ready. Lecavalier returned and actually produced on the fourth line but was never moved up. I don't know about you guys but I've worked at jobs where things started off well but after a while I didn't feel like I was getting my of a fair shake and I stopped giving a poop.

- SuperSchennBros

I don't get his moves anymore. They just seem like random choices. Or way overdue, or whatever. I don't think it's a good sign that you can't understand his logic, and I think he deserves as much of the blame for this season as the players at this point.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
Not a fan of his management of goalies, and scratching VCL over and over and the defense carousel. All the while Umberger lasts 60+ games, not to mention his position on an infertile 2nd powerplay unit has been safe for most of the year. And when he finally scratches him when they have no shot at the playoffs, he says "I felt like it."
- feelingkettle

I can't disagree. For me, I see signs of a Head Coach with a real ego problem.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
definitely about an hour late here, but holy NFL right now.

reactions?

has anyone actually seen a definitive final word on the deal. was it a one for one swap or were picks involved?

- stayinthefnnet


Picks are definitely involved, but nobody's sure what. Strongly hinted that it's Foles and the 2oth pick for Bradford and the 10th, plus a conditional 2016 pick.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:38 PM ET
I personally don't see any problem with his management of goalies. I don't think anyone agrees with every move any coach makes. Lecavalier hasn't exactly cemented his spot in the lineup. I think things happen when a coach has limited options, but nobody wants to consider what the alternatives were, as part of the equation. The last, that's just coach speak, and declining to discuss why he chose now. I'm sure he has his reasons for that. Nothing there that is ridiculous in my opinion. To each his own.
- MJL

Why do you think he scratched Umberger now, at this point in the season? Because I honestly can't come up with one.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 10 @ 5:39 PM ET
I don't get his moves anymore. They just seem like random choices. Or way overdue, or whatever. I don't think it's a good sign that you can't understand his logic, and I think he deserves as much of the blame for this season as the players at this point.
- feelingkettle

I can't go through another season like this. This season without question has been the worst season I've ever experienced and I'm including the half season two years ago and the last place season eight years ago.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:39 PM ET
I don't get his moves anymore. They just seem like random choices. Or way overdue, or whatever. I don't think it's a good sign that you can't understand his logic, and I think he deserves as much of the blame for this season as the players at this point.
- feelingkettle


I've not gotten his moves for awhile. I've mentioned them in general and specific terms often enough. I don't feel that Berube is the only or even biggest problem, but I definitely feel he's part of the problem.

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 5:39 PM ET
Picks are definitely involved, but nobody's sure what. Strongly hinted that it's Foles and the 2oth pick for Bradford and the 10th, plus a conditional 2016 pick.
- Jsaquella


And that's been said to be false so, until it's announced people should step away from the ledge.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 10 @ 5:41 PM ET
I've not gotten his moves for awhile. I've mentioned them in general and specific terms often enough. I don't feel that Berube is the only or even biggest problem, but I definitely feel he's part of the problem.
- Jsaquella


I'm willing to say he's 50% of the problem. The team doesn't even look prepared to play most nights.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:42 PM ET
I'm willing to say he's 50% of the problem. The team doesn't even look prepared to play most nights.
- SuperSchennBros

Not prepared to play against teams worse than yours while you are in a playoff race...inexcusable.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 5:42 PM ET
And that's been said to be false so, until it's announced people should step away from the ledge.
- ob18


Don't bother me one way or another. The Eagles are a distant third in rooting interest for me.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 10 @ 5:42 PM ET
Not a fan of his management of goalies, and scratching VCL over and over and the defense carousel. All the while Umberger lasts 60+ games, not to mention his position on an infertile 2nd powerplay unit has been safe for most of the year. And when he finally scratches him when they have no shot at the playoffs, he says "I felt like it."
- feelingkettle


Have to agree with all the above
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 10 @ 5:42 PM ET
Picks are definitely involved, but nobody's sure what. Strongly hinted that it's Foles and the 2oth pick for Bradford and the 10th, plus a conditional 2016 pick.
- Jsaquella


thats what i thought originally, but i cant find any confirmations. i just got in and i dont have a smart phone so i just figured i was out of the loop.

even the graham/unger deal was pretty wild. entertaining stuff.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 10 @ 5:44 PM ET
I've not gotten his moves for awhile. I've mentioned them in general and specific terms often enough. I don't feel that Berube is the only or even biggest problem, but I definitely feel he's part of the problem.
- Jsaquella



Berube is not the biggest problem.. But I just don't see him being the guy next year.
I for one, would like a new coach for this group. I think Hextall would like to hire his guy.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 5:44 PM ET
Don't bother me one way or another. The Eagles are a distant third in rooting interest for me.
- Jsaquella

I will start rooting for the Eagles when they wear Kelly green. That's how much of an NFL fan I am.
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