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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 6:28 PM ET
Not sure why you are in favor of scratching Del Zotto when you rule out the possibility of scratching Umberger.
- feelingkettle


Not understanding my position then. Scratching Del Zotto served a distinct and clear purpose. Berube felt that Del Zotto was playing too much as an individual, and was playing too recklessly on the rush. He scratched him to fix that issue, and it seems to have worked. Del Zotto has regained his game, and has had a strong season. Del Zotto certainly deserves most of the credit for that, but the scratchings seems to have motivated him to fix the issues in his game. It also greatly helped that the Flyers had legit NHL defenseman to put in the lineup in place of Del Zotto. Perhaps if that wasn't the case, maybe Del Zotto stays in, or certainly has the length of his removal from the lineup reduced.

Now let's look at Umberger. First of all, I've never ruled out the possibility of scratching Umberger. I've said multiple times, that Umberger was not scratched previously because his play was so good that it wasn't deserved. Berube distinctly said earlier in the season, scratching players is on an individual basis. In my opinion, and I think this is Berube's thinking also, is that scratching Umberger is not going to serve a purpose. Other then just getting another player in the lineup like tonight. Scratching Umberger isn't going to improve him as a player. Scratching him and bringing in another player that the coach has available to him, isn't going to improve the team. In my opinion, each situation has to be looked at independently, and look at all the factors involved.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
If Berube was caught on camera strangling a kitten, he'd blame the kitten and support Berube 100%
- BiggE


Who are you referring to?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
If Berube was caught on camera strangling a kitten, he'd blame the kitten and support Berube 100%
- BiggE

"I thought the turtle missing two legs had a real nice game but the kitten just didnt execute. Thats on them.... No excuses. We done?"
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 10 @ 6:31 PM ET
Not understanding my position then. Scratching Del Zotto served a distinct and clear purpose. Berube felt that Del Zotto was playing too much as an individual, and was playing too recklessly on the rush. He scratched him to fix that issue, and it seems to have worked. Del Zotto has regained his game, and has had a strong season. Del Zotto certainly deserves most of the credit for that, but the scratchings seems to have motivated him to fix the issues in his game. It also greatly helped that the Flyers had legit NHL defenseman to put in the lineup in place of Del Zotto. Perhaps if that wasn't the case, maybe Del Zotto stays in, or certainly has the length of his removal from the lineup reduced.

Now let's look at Umberger. First of all, I've never ruled out the possibility of scratching Umberger. I've said multiple times, that Umberger was not scratched previously because his play was so good that it wasn't deserved. Berube distinctly said earlier in the season, scratching players is on an individual basis. In my opinion, and I think this is Berube's thinking also, is that scratching Umberger is not going to serve a purpose. Other then just getting another player in the lineup like tonight. Scratching Umberger isn't going to improve him as a player. Scratching him and bringing in another player that the coach has available to him, isn't going to improve the team. In my opinion, each situation has to be looked at independently, and look at all the factors involved.

- MJL

k cool
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 10 @ 6:33 PM ET
"Kitten just didnt execute. Thats on them.... No excuses. We done?"
- hereticpride

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 6:46 PM ET
"I thought the turtle missing two legs had a real nice game but the kitten just didnt execute. Thats on them.... No excuses. We done?"
- hereticpride

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 6:47 PM ET
Chip Kelly be like


You get an Eagle!You get an Eagle!You get an Eagle!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 6:47 PM ET
Eagles trade Foles, 4th & 2nd for Bradford & a 5th
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 6:48 PM ET
Eagles trade Foles, 4th & 2nd for Bradford & a 5th
- Jsaquella



(frank)
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 10 @ 6:49 PM ET
Hextall appears to be the only guy calling the shots that has a semblance of a realistic plan to build a winning team.

The Phillies are flat out screwed for a decade. The Sixer's just keep watching the roulette wheel and never place a bet. The Eagles... Who knows. Chip goes all in and if he fails leaves the city in the dust without a second thought.

- hereticpride


I don't know what kind of magic Hextall is going to be able to weave in order to regain a semblance of salary sanity on this squad.... in the near future.

Chip Kelly.. wow. When he first took over, I told my football buddies that I thought the Chip Kelly era would last three years and each year would be more frustrating than the last. At the end of Kelly's first season and up to the point in his second season where they were 9-3, I looked like an even bigger idiot than I normally do with that prediction. Now, I'm not so sure that I wasnt right in the first place.

The Sixers... they almost seem like some bizarre psycho-social experiment being performed on an innocent and unwitting fanbase.

The Phillies... might rack up another 10,000 losses before they sniff another world series.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 10 @ 6:50 PM ET
Eagles trade Foles, 4th & 2nd for Bradford & a 5th
- Jsaquella


Holy moley.

Bradford for Foles straight up is a poor deal. Now this?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 10 @ 6:50 PM ET
Eagles trade Foles, 4th & 2nd for Bradford & a 5th
- Jsaquella

someone explain to me the thought process behind this deal
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 6:51 PM ET
Eagles trade Foles, 4th & 2nd for Bradford & a 5th
- Jsaquella



Close the bridges. Get all available lifeboats to the Delaware river stat.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 6:51 PM ET
someone explain to me the thought process behind this deal
- Marc D

Chip plans on coaching the Rams next year.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 6:52 PM ET
Oh poop, my brother won't answer his phone...stay away from clock towers...
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 6:54 PM ET
Oh poop, my brother won't answer his phone...stay away from clock towers...
- Jsaquella

I'm tuning into WIP. This evening is going to be epic entertainment.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 10 @ 6:54 PM ET
Eagles trade Foles, 4th & 2nd for Bradford & a 5th
- Jsaquella


oh my...
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 10 @ 6:56 PM ET
I'm tuning into WIP. This evening is going to be epic entertainment.
- hereticpride


I guess this finally ends Mariota pipe dream.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Mar 10 @ 6:56 PM ET
Eagles Nation ‏@PHLEaglesNation 27m27 minutes ago

RUMOR: #Eagles are expected to trade QB Sam Bradford and picks to the #Titans in exchange for the No. 2 overall pick



hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 6:57 PM ET
Eagles trade Foles, 4th & 2nd for Bradford & a 5th
- Jsaquella

This is seriously a top 10 all time, all sport bad trade.

My god.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 7:04 PM ET
Eagles Nation ‏@PHLEaglesNation 27m27 minutes ago

RUMOR: #Eagles are expected to trade QB Sam Bradford and picks to the #Titans in exchange for the No. 2 overall pick




- Doc_Sarcasm


Thats not going to happen. Why wouldn't the Titans just trade for Bradford themselves?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 7:06 PM ET
Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 5m5 minutes ago

We’d like to extend a special welcome to our friends @RothmanOrtho & @TJUHospital for Concussion Awareness Night! #DALvsPHI

Rob Parent ‏@ReluctantSE 2m2 minutes ago Philadelphia, PA

@NHLFlyers @RothmanOrtho @TJUHospital ... That's why Nick Grossmann is playing tonight!

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 10 @ 7:06 PM ET
Eagles Nation ‏@PHLEaglesNation 27m27 minutes ago

RUMOR: #Eagles are expected to trade QB Sam Bradford and picks to the #Titans in exchange for the No. 2 overall pick




- Doc_Sarcasm

Yeahh suuuure.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 10 @ 7:11 PM ET
This is seriously a top 10 all time, all sport bad trade.

My god.

- hereticpride


Well, Bradford does say he loves hockey as much as he love football, playing through his sophomore year at OU, so he does have some positive attributes.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 7:12 PM ET
This team is so much better with Vinny in the lineup
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