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nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:28 AM ET
would you rather have a guy who wasn't given a chance or a guy who was given every chance and failed?
- PhillySportsGuy


You willing t pay a guy at least 2.5M for a handful of years that couldn't crack the Flyer line-up?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
Morin would be allowed to come up if his season was over if I am not mistaken. Otherwise it would be an emergency situation only. I could be wrong.


edit: weigh Leight

- MBFlyerfan


If this doesn't scream emergency, I don't know what does....

55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit
43 Brandon Manning - 22 Luke Schenn
26 Carlo Colaiacovo - 47 Andrew MacDonald
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
We better just hope to god that Las Vegas is included in the NHL SOON!!. That way they can pick up our trash during the expansion draft....
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 10:31 AM ET
You willing t pay a guy at least 2.5M for a handful of years that couldn't crack the Flyer line-up?
- nails


no but I'm not willing to pay that amount for a player who continually makes everyone around him worse
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:31 AM ET
If this doesn't scream emergency, I don't know what does....

55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit
43 Brandon Manning - 22 Luke Schenn
26 Carlo Colaiacovo - 47 Andrew MacDonald

- PLindbergh31

leftovers for most teams
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
If this doesn't scream emergency, I don't know what does....

55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit
43 Brandon Manning - 22 Luke Schenn
26 Carlo Colaiacovo - 47 Andrew MacDonald

- PLindbergh31

Thats pretty (frank)ing bad..
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
If this doesn't scream emergency, I don't know what does....

55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit
43 Brandon Manning - 22 Luke Schenn
26 Carlo Colaiacovo - 47 Andrew MacDonald

- PLindbergh31

Yep - Ambulance alarms went off in my head...
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
If this doesn't scream emergency, I don't know what does....

55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit
43 Brandon Manning - 22 Luke Schenn
26 Carlo Colaiacovo - 47 Andrew MacDonald

- PLindbergh31



That definitely is an emergency. But more the "I still have 10 miles to go until the rest stop and this burrito ain't waiting" type of emergency.


jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
If this doesn't scream emergency, I don't know what does....

55 Nick Schultz - 32 Mark Streit
43 Brandon Manning - 22 Luke Schenn
26 Carlo Colaiacovo - 47 Andrew MacDonald

- PLindbergh31

Poor Mason
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:32 AM ET
We better just hope to god that Las Vegas is included in the NHL SOON!!. That way they can pick up our trash during the expansion draft....
- GOA88

I wonder if there would be a negotiated compliance buy out for each team, under the guise of making more players available for the new team.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
I wish they would at least try this. If Lecavalier is nothing else, he's at least a shooter and a damn good one. We don't have a single guy with a natural hard and accurate shot. I'd call Voracek more of a playmaker and Simmonds more of a net front presence.
- SuperSchennBros


He's a hell of a shooter. Rumor is hes consistently draining his cheesesteak wrapper from the corner of the Shelley suite

In fact. Vinny was overheard yelling "count it!! and one!!" After amac went for the block and hit his arm
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
leftovers for most teams
- vejim

nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
no but I'm not willing to pay that amount for a player who continually makes everyone around him worse
- PhillySportsGuy

There was a stretch of games before the Columbus gaff where he was playing respectable hockey with the 4th line.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 10 @ 10:35 AM ET
I wonder if there would be a negotiated compliance buy out for each team, under the guise of making more players available for the new team.
- nails

I doubt it because you just wouldn't protect the bad contracts. And it's unlikely any would get picked up...
GOA88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 08.02.2013

Mar 10 @ 10:35 AM ET
I wonder if there would be a negotiated compliance buy out for each team, under the guise of making more players available for the new team.
- nails

Would be interesting. I could definitely see Las Vegas picking up Vinny, Umberger and Amac during the expansion draft. They would need to be cap compliant and they are NHL players.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 10:35 AM ET
would you rather have a guy who wasn't given a chance or a guy who was given every chance and failed?
- PhillySportsGuy


I think he's already at that point, lol.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 10 @ 10:36 AM ET
would you rather have a guy who wasn't given a chance or a guy who was given every chance and failed?
- PhillySportsGuy


The problem is, he HAS been given multiple chances and failed. Maybe if you give him an increased role, he finds some success.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Mar 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
There was a stretch of games before the Columbus gaff where he was playing respectable hockey with the 4th line.
- nails


Even during that stretch, the 4th line was still giving up more goals than they scored.

I wouldn't play Rinaldo, VL or Umberger. They are all net negatives imo. A good AHL player would provide more to the team than them and he has (VDV)
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
We better just hope to god that Las Vegas is included in the NHL SOON!!. That way they can pick up our trash during the expansion draft....
- GOA88


Sadly, nobody w/ a movement clause can be exposed
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
30 days of Straka comes out to what, ~$150k? Cousins for 30 is about $130k.

~$280k off the offseason cap (that they probably won't need, since I doubt Hexy goes nuts on July 1 anyway) seems like a small price to pay to see what these kids got, IMO.

- Tomahawk


When you start adding that to what they've already spent on call ups, add in either extensions or Q offers, it all adds up. Has nothing to do with Hextall going nuts on July 1.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
Poor Mason
- jak521


The good news is, only one more injury until MacDonald is on the second pair!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:38 AM ET

- jak521


I've stepped in deeper puddles.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 10 @ 10:38 AM ET
Yep - Ambulance alarms went off in my head...
- FlyersGrace


Embarrassment of riches!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 10 @ 10:38 AM ET
So they finally scratch Umberger, and it's to put Vinny on L4 wing & Rinaldo on L3.

Mason should get a raise if he's playing tonight
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
Even during that stretch, the 4th line was still giving up more goals than they scored.

I wouldn't play Rinaldo, VL or Umberger. They are all net negatives imo. A good AHL player would provide more to the team than them and he has (VDV)

- PhillySportsGuy


I'm in the large minority, but I think Umberger has at least progressed to "adequate bottom-6 NHL player."
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