So let me get this right. Phaneuf is prone to mistakes but Chris Pronger, Eric Desjadins and Kimmo Timonen aren't? Chris Pronger was the best of the bunch but he was slow and got burnt for it at times. Clearly he made up for his lack of speed in other ways but for the most part, that's a flaw. Do I believe Dion Phaneuf is better then Kimmo Timonen or Eric Desjardins? I'm not gonna answer that, I'm just gonna say Phaneuf is a different player, who has been on a bad team for along time.



I never said our defense was good. If this is what you took from my original statement, I'd read slower next time. I absolutely believe he'd improve our defense and if you want to improve the defense, you have to pay the price with assets and in money. You know who isn't a good defenseman, Mark Streit and Michael Del Zotto. What keeps them in the league is that they serve a purpose, which is being able to handle the puck, carry the puck up ice and generate offense. I trust Phaneuf as an all situations player before I trust anything we have on our backend. I'm not in love with the guy, but he's what is available.
- SuperSchennBros

If I could get Phaneuf and a 3rd for AMac and the 1st we got from TB, I'd do it. Phaneuf has his faults but he is MUCH better than AMac and would, without a doubt, be the best Dman on this team.

If I could get Phaneuf and a 3rd for AMac and the 1st we got from TB, I'd do it. Phaneuf has his faults but he is MUCH better than AMac and would, without a doubt, be the best Dman on this team.
- BiggE

You and I know we've had our disagreements but we couldn't be more on the same page right now. Beggars can't be choosers. Dion Phaneuf is the only available number one defenseman out there right now. He's it! Does anyone really believe we can just wait until Samuel Morin or Travis Sanheim are ready? That could be 3 or 4 years away until they are legitimately ready to shutdown the other team's best.

Well, its not as good as 7th.

Its just that there is so little to really like about this season
Voracek showing he can be a world class player, Del Zotto finding his game and the play of Mason are really about it.
- BiggE

Are you sure?

If I could get Phaneuf and a 3rd for AMac and the 1st we got from TB, I'd do it. Phaneuf has his faults but he is MUCH better than AMac and would, without a doubt, be the best Dman on this team.
- BiggE

He would be the teams best defenseman. However he is not a player I would want to build my defense around. I also would not be willing to include the 1st round pick from TB.

Are you sure?
- ob18

Pretty sure, but then again I drink a lot

So that's a no or an average ?
- landros 2

You and I know we've had our disagreements but we couldn't be more on the same page right now. Beggars can't be choosers. Dion Phaneuf is the only available number one defenseman out there right now. He's it! Does anyone really believe we can just wait until Samuel Morin or Travis Sanheim are ready? That could be 3 or 4 years away until they are legitimately ready to shutdown the other team's best.
- SuperSchennBros

Never make a move out of desperation. Just because Phaneuf is the only option doesn't mean we should give up important assets to acquire him. If you can get him for Macdonald and any non 1st round pick, maybe. It would probably be better to shy away though, cause his contract is gonna be cancerous in the last few years of it's life.

Never make a move out of desperation. Just because Phaneuf is the only option doesn't mean we should give up important assets to acquire him. If you can get him for Macdonald and any non 1st round pick, maybe. It would probably be better to shy away though, cause his contract is gonna be cancerous in the last few years of it's life.
- JAKEw1234

Exactly, don't make a move because that's all that is available. Make a move if it is the right move to make. I don't feel that trading for Phaneuf is the right move. For what it would cost cap wise, and asset wise.

You and I know we've had our disagreements but we couldn't be more on the same page right now. Beggars can't be choosers. Dion Phaneuf is the only available number one defenseman out there right now. He's it! Does anyone really believe we can just wait until Samuel Morin or Travis Sanheim are ready? That could be 3 or 4 years away until they are legitimately ready to shutdown the other team's best.
- SuperSchennBros

I guess I question what adding Phaneuf is really going to do for this team? The Flyers and the Maple Leafs are similar teams talent-wise, and he didn't exactly push the Leafs into contender status.

i'd take patrick swayze before i took statham.
- hammarby31

hes dead you cant have him

jfc are we really comparing phaneuf to pronger and timmonen? ... /face(frank)ingpalm

Pretty sure, but then again I drink a lot
- BiggE

We know

He would be the teams best defenseman. However he is not a player I would want to build my defense around. I also would not be willing to include the 1st round pick from TB.
- MJL

the gm just acknowledged leadership issues and players not being hungry, i'll second this opinion.

Never make a move out of desperation. Just because Phaneuf is the only option doesn't mean we should give up important assets to acquire him. If you can get him for Macdonald and any non 1st round pick, maybe. It would probably be better to shy away though, cause his contract is gonna be cancerous in the last few years of it's life.
- JAKEw1234

Well I'm happy that your pleased with this season because not having a number one defenseman sums up this season. Desperation would be trading Wayne Simmonds or Jake Voracek because you've GOTTA fill this need. I'm not in the least saying we should do this.

I guess I question what adding Phaneuf is really going to do for this team? The Flyers and the Maple Leafs are similar teams talent-wise, and he didn't exactly push the Leafs into contender status.
- wolfhounds

just a bigger wetter limper noodle

would you guys take richards back if all we had to give was future considerations?
- 2Real

Of course not. He has five years left at $5.75m and is currently in the AHL.

I guess I question what adding Phaneuf is really going to do for this team? The Flyers and the Maple Leafs are similar teams talent-wise, and he didn't exactly push the Leafs into contender status.
- wolfhounds

Phaneuf drives me nuts whenever i watch him and I'm not even rooting for the Leafs. No, thank you.

If a trade is to be made I would much rather go all in on a legit number 1 than buy the bargain number 1 guy.

I guess I question what adding Phaneuf is really going to do for this team? The Flyers and the Maple Leafs are similar teams talent-wise, and he didn't exactly push the Leafs into contender status.
- wolfhounds

The Flyers are Leafs are not simular. Not even a little bit.

jfc are we really comparing phaneuf to pronger and timmonen? ... /face(frank)ingpalm
- JoeRussomanno

No comparison is too outlandish when trying to make a point. For instance, ice hockey is a lot like making a ketchup sandwich therefore my jeans are really comfortable.

Well I'm happy that your pleased with this sason because not having a number one defenseman sums up this season. Desperation would be trading Wayne Simmonds or Jake Voracek because you've GOTTA fill this need. I'm not in the least saying we should do this.
- SuperSchennBros

not having #1 was 1/3 the problem a braindead coach and lack of heart were the other two.

Of course not. He has five years left at $5.75m and is currently in the AHL.
- Feanor

if la eats half the salary i might

the gm just acknowledged leadership issues and players not being hungry, i'll second this opinion.
- JoeRussomanno

Did Hextall explain exactly what he meant by calling out the leadership but not placing it on the Captain? Is that a shot at the coaching staff? Streit and Simmonds? The vets in general? All of the above?

Trading for Phaneuf is what Holmgren would do.

No comparison is too outlandish when trying to make a point. For instance, ice hockey is a lot like making a ketchup sandwich therefore my jeans are really comfortable.
- wolfhounds

you wait till they're comfortable? i just go balls to the was.

The Flyers are Leafs are not simular. Not even a little bit.
- SuperSchennBros

Well, glad that's settled.