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Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 12 @ 5:52 PM ET
Alrighty here goes nothing. Apparently he hated Myers. I mean hate. Called him a giant wussy. When media asked him about him he said he loved him and didn't want to trade him just to drive up the price. When asked more about the trade he said he didn't trade a 1st for myers. He traded bogosion for myers and a 1st for Kane. Also said Nolan has no idea what he is doing and is canned after the year. He said there was one occasion he walked into Murray's office and asked if he should bench Zadarov for Strachan. Murray just nodded and said do what you feel is best cause he doesn't want to make it feel like Murray is pulling the strings. He said he is happy he is the coach now though because that will bring him McEichel. He knew he was going to sell off Neuvirth three weeks ago and just remained quiet to drive up price but had multiple offers come deadline time. Then he realizes certain players like Hodgson aren't meant to be on the 4th line but since Teddy doesn't know what he is doing it only helps us get top pick so he is happy with it. We also have already spoken to Mike Babcock's agent (no clue how that happens) and he is looking at us, Leafs and reupping at Detroit for next year. Also the reason Lafontaine left was not because of the Miller deal it was because he hired Murray with the assumption he can learn the way to be the GM from Murray and take over in two years which would have been this offseason but no one else thought he should so he quit. Murray said he pleaded his case and won to Pegula. Also said he plans on using his other 1st and prospects to get Ryan O'Reilly in the draft is number one priority because the draft positions will already be done by then. And lastly he has McDavid at a hard #1 and Eichel at #2 because of nationality and skill. Really hates U.S. players. Said there is are only a select few that actually have the complete package and even said Patrick Kane has "warts" he would have preferred a Canadian instead with same skill set but understands the game better. He's all about hockey sense and a player's upbringing and how they handle media attention. If I forgot some it's because I'm still in shock haha
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 12 @ 5:58 PM ET
I was no fan of the the role that nolan and the fans wanted myers to play. Im sorry but to me he's just a better mike weber.
- Sabresfan-365


Myers and Bogosian have been/are scoring at a virtually identical pace where it counts - on the "same" roster in Buffalo.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 12 @ 5:59 PM ET
Fixed
- Stripes77



Nice
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 12 @ 6:02 PM ET
Considering the Bills haven't made him an offer how could he have played the Bills?
- Stripes77


First time any athlete has ever done that too....the Buffalo curse.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 12 @ 6:03 PM ET
Alrighty here goes nothing. Apparently he hated Myers. I mean hate. Called him a giant wussy. When media asked him about him he said he loved him and didn't want to trade him just to drive up the price. When asked more about the trade he said he didn't trade a 1st for myers. He traded bogosion for myers and a 1st for Kane. Also said Nolan has no idea what he is doing and is canned after the year. He said there was one occasion he walked into Murray's office and asked if he should bench Zadarov for Strachan. Murray just nodded and said do what you feel is best cause he doesn't want to make it feel like Murray is pulling the strings. He said he is happy he is the coach now though because that will bring him McEichel. He knew he was going to sell off Neuvirth three weeks ago and just remained quiet to drive up price but had multiple offers come deadline time. Then he realizes certain players like Hodgson aren't meant to be on the 4th line but since Teddy doesn't know what he is doing it only helps us get top pick so he is happy with it. We also have already spoken to Mike Babcock's agent (no clue how that happens) and he is looking at us, Leafs and reupping at Detroit for next year. Also the reason Lafontaine left was not because of the Miller deal it was because he hired Murray with the assumption he can learn the way to be the GM from Murray and take over in two years which would have been this offseason but no one else thought he should so he quit. Murray said he pleaded his case and won to Pegula. Also said he plans on using his other 1st and prospects to get Ryan O'Reilly in the draft is number one priority because the draft positions will already be done by then. And lastly he has McDavid at a hard #1 and Eichel at #2 because of nationality and skill. Really hates U.S. players. Said there is are only a select few that actually have the complete package and even said Patrick Kane has "warts" he would have preferred a Canadian instead with same skill set but understands the game better. He's all about hockey sense and a player's upbringing and how they handle media attention. If I forgot some it's because I'm still in shock haha
- Beezer33


A) What about Grigo???

B) He didn't really say "WUSSY" did he?
ImNoTroll
Location: RISTO is equal in value to = Druin + Johnson - MEBSabresFAN
Joined: 06.24.2014

Mar 12 @ 6:05 PM ET
Alrighty here goes nothing. Apparently he hated Myers. I mean hate. Called him a giant wussy. When media asked him about him he said he loved him and didn't want to trade him just to drive up the price. When asked more about the trade he said he didn't trade a 1st for myers. He traded bogosion for myers and a 1st for Kane. Also said Nolan has no idea what he is doing and is canned after the year. He said there was one occasion he walked into Murray's office and asked if he should bench Zadarov for Strachan. Murray just nodded and said do what you feel is best cause he doesn't want to make it feel like Murray is pulling the strings. He said he is happy he is the coach now though because that will bring him McEichel. He knew he was going to sell off Neuvirth three weeks ago and just remained quiet to drive up price but had multiple offers come deadline time. Then he realizes certain players like Hodgson aren't meant to be on the 4th line but since Teddy doesn't know what he is doing it only helps us get top pick so he is happy with it. We also have already spoken to Mike Babcock's agent (no clue how that happens) and he is looking at us, Leafs and reupping at Detroit for next year. Also the reason Lafontaine left was not because of the Miller deal it was because he hired Murray with the assumption he can learn the way to be the GM from Murray and take over in two years which would have been this offseason but no one else thought he should so he quit. Murray said he pleaded his case and won to Pegula. Also said he plans on using his other 1st and prospects to get Ryan O'Reilly in the draft is number one priority because the draft positions will already be done by then. And lastly he has McDavid at a hard #1 and Eichel at #2 because of nationality and skill. Really hates U.S. players. Said there is are only a select few that actually have the complete package and even said Patrick Kane has "warts" he would have preferred a Canadian instead with same skill set but understands the game better. He's all about hockey sense and a player's upbringing and how they handle media attention. If I forgot some it's because I'm still in shock haha
- Beezer33



Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Mar 12 @ 6:07 PM ET
A) What about Grigo???

B) He didn't really say "WUSSY" did he?

- Der Kaiser


Didn't ask anything about Grigs but isn't it true he's not a fan of Russians?

Also it wasn't wussy. Substitute the W for a P
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 12 @ 6:07 PM ET
Alrighty here goes nothing. Apparently he hated Myers. I mean hate. Called him a giant wussy. When media asked him about him he said he loved him and didn't want to trade him just to drive up the price. When asked more about the trade he said he didn't trade a 1st for myers. He traded bogosion for myers and a 1st for Kane. Also said Nolan has no idea what he is doing and is canned after the year. He said there was one occasion he walked into Murray's office and asked if he should bench Zadarov for Strachan. Murray just nodded and said do what you feel is best cause he doesn't want to make it feel like Murray is pulling the strings. He said he is happy he is the coach now though because that will bring him McEichel. He knew he was going to sell off Neuvirth three weeks ago and just remained quiet to drive up price but had multiple offers come deadline time. Then he realizes certain players like Hodgson aren't meant to be on the 4th line but since Teddy doesn't know what he is doing it only helps us get top pick so he is happy with it. We also have already spoken to Mike Babcock's agent (no clue how that happens) and he is looking at us, Leafs and reupping at Detroit for next year. Also the reason Lafontaine left was not because of the Miller deal it was because he hired Murray with the assumption he can learn the way to be the GM from Murray and take over in two years which would have been this offseason but no one else thought he should so he quit. Murray said he pleaded his case and won to Pegula. Also said he plans on using his other 1st and prospects to get Ryan O'Reilly in the draft is number one priority because the draft positions will already be done by then. And lastly he has McDavid at a hard #1 and Eichel at #2 because of nationality and skill. Really hates U.S. players. Said there is are only a select few that actually have the complete package and even said Patrick Kane has "warts" he would have preferred a Canadian instead with same skill set but understands the game better. He's all about hockey sense and a player's upbringing and how they handle media attention. If I forgot some it's because I'm still in shock haha
- Beezer33



I suspected pretty much everything you said. Lafontaine just had the wrong idea about many things. I also heard he convinced te Sabres to hire Nolan because he owed Nolan money. Something about leading him into some failed real estate investments. Also I don't like Murray's arbitrary and possibly outdated views on American players. We need a Stanley Cup, not bias.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 12 @ 6:09 PM ET
I suspected pretty much everything you said. Lafontaine just had the wrong idea about many things. I also heard he convinced te Sabres to hire Nolan because he owed Nolan money. Something about leading him into some failed real estate investments. Also I don't like Murray's arbitrary and possibly outdated views on American players. We need a Stanley Cup, not bias.
- Buffalo-Sabres

Well don't worry, I wouldn't take much of that with a gain of salt
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 12 @ 6:11 PM ET
Alrighty here goes nothing. Apparently he hated Myers. I mean hate. Called him a giant wussy. When media asked him about him he said he loved him and didn't want to trade him just to drive up the price. When asked more about the trade he said he didn't trade a 1st for myers. He traded bogosion for myers and a 1st for Kane. Also said Nolan has no idea what he is doing and is canned after the year. He said there was one occasion he walked into Murray's office and asked if he should bench Zadarov for Strachan. Murray just nodded and said do what you feel is best cause he doesn't want to make it feel like Murray is pulling the strings. He said he is happy he is the coach now though because that will bring him McEichel. He knew he was going to sell off Neuvirth three weeks ago and just remained quiet to drive up price but had multiple offers come deadline time. Then he realizes certain players like Hodgson aren't meant to be on the 4th line but since Teddy doesn't know what he is doing it only helps us get top pick so he is happy with it. We also have already spoken to Mike Babcock's agent (no clue how that happens) and he is looking at us, Leafs and reupping at Detroit for next year. Also the reason Lafontaine left was not because of the Miller deal it was because he hired Murray with the assumption he can learn the way to be the GM from Murray and take over in two years which would have been this offseason but no one else thought he should so he quit. Murray said he pleaded his case and won to Pegula. Also said he plans on using his other 1st and prospects to get Ryan O'Reilly in the draft is number one priority because the draft positions will already be done by then. And lastly he has McDavid at a hard #1 and Eichel at #2 because of nationality and skill. Really hates U.S. players. Said there is are only a select few that actually have the complete package and even said Patrick Kane has "warts" he would have preferred a Canadian instead with same skill set but understands the game better. He's all about hockey sense and a player's upbringing and how they handle media attention. If I forgot some it's because I'm still in shock haha
- Beezer33



"I approve of this message."

nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Mar 12 @ 6:11 PM ET
I was no fan of the the role that nolan and the fans wanted myers to play. Im sorry but to me he's just a better mike weber.
- Sabresfan-365

A much better Mike Weber, and a better compliment to Risto in the near future.
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 12 @ 6:11 PM ET
Well don't worry, I wouldn't take much of that with a gain of salt
- Mentalorgasm5



Murray was likely drunk at the time
Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I lost a bet, NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 12 @ 6:12 PM ET
"I approve of this message."


- Der Kaiser




Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 12 @ 6:20 PM ET
Murray was likely drunk at the time
- Buffalo-Sabres

SFO was most likely drunk at the time.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Mar 12 @ 6:22 PM ET
Alrighty here goes nothing. Apparently he hated Myers. I mean hate. Called him a giant wussy. When media asked him about him he said he loved him and didn't want to trade him just to drive up the price. When asked more about the trade he said he didn't trade a 1st for myers. He traded bogosion for myers and a 1st for Kane. Also said Nolan has no idea what he is doing and is canned after the year. He said there was one occasion he walked into Murray's office and asked if he should bench Zadarov for Strachan. Murray just nodded and said do what you feel is best cause he doesn't want to make it feel like Murray is pulling the strings. He said he is happy he is the coach now though because that will bring him McEichel. He knew he was going to sell off Neuvirth three weeks ago and just remained quiet to drive up price but had multiple offers come deadline time. Then he realizes certain players like Hodgson aren't meant to be on the 4th line but since Teddy doesn't know what he is doing it only helps us get top pick so he is happy with it. We also have already spoken to Mike Babcock's agent (no clue how that happens) and he is looking at us, Leafs and reupping at Detroit for next year. Also the reason Lafontaine left was not because of the Miller deal it was because he hired Murray with the assumption he can learn the way to be the GM from Murray and take over in two years which would have been this offseason but no one else thought he should so he quit. Murray said he pleaded his case and won to Pegula. Also said he plans on using his other 1st and prospects to get Ryan O'Reilly in the draft is number one priority because the draft positions will already be done by then. And lastly he has McDavid at a hard #1 and Eichel at #2 because of nationality and skill. Really hates U.S. players. Said there is are only a select few that actually have the complete package and even said Patrick Kane has "warts" he would have preferred a Canadian instead with same skill set but understands the game better. He's all about hockey sense and a player's upbringing and how they handle media attention. If I forgot some it's because I'm still in shock haha
- Beezer33



THANK YOU!!! This is exactly why I read pages an pages of crap... To see insights and rumours (that are true.)

And thank you for not playing coy!
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

Mar 12 @ 6:26 PM ET
Beezer- any word on murrays thoughts about zadorov, coho, or Stafford? Anything about myers and the white powder or booze?
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 12 @ 6:42 PM ET
He's all about hockey sense a players upbringing and how they handle media attention, yet he traded for the hockey's equivalent of a kardashian in Evander kane I kid I kid. Hehehehe
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 12 @ 6:53 PM ET
He's all about hockey sense a players upbringing and how they handle media attention, yet he traded for the hockey's equivalent of a kardashian in Evander kane I kid I kid. Hehehehe
- joshs

He dislikes American players yet trades 2 2nds and McNabb for an American prospect
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Mar 12 @ 7:05 PM ET
He dislikes American players yet trades 2 2nds and McNabb for an American prospect
- sbroads24



Yeah, Beezer may have an inside track with this guy, but to say "I hate American players"?

I doubt it.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 12 @ 7:09 PM ET
Aa
- Beezer33



THanks Beez
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Mar 12 @ 7:10 PM ET
He dislikes American players yet trades 2 2nds and McNabb for an American prospect
- sbroads24


Maybe he meant American top prospects in the draft since he was comparing McDavid to Eichel and then described the warts Kane had?

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 12 @ 7:14 PM ET
Yeah, Beezer may have an inside track with this guy, but to say "I hate American players"?

I doubt it.

- grand-magus


I do remember a press conference of his, I believe it was over the summer, when he made the comment that "we have a lot of American prospects", and it wasn't exactly in a beaming tone.

The one thing about "Canadian versus American" players I will say is this: if you look at the National Teams at their best, the Canadians have far more players you would want to build your team around than any other country. It's not that they necessarily have better players. They simply have more of them. I will say that the "Canadian" aspect is one of the reasons I favor McDavid over Eichel. The odds are better if you go with the Canadian, though it's far from a guarantee.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 12 @ 7:15 PM ET
Maybe he meant American top prospects in the draft since he was comparing McDavid to Eichel and then described the warts Kane had?
- GilPerreault11

Now, I have no idea what it's like in Canada, but having grown up around kids that played all sorts of sports, there were a lot of hockey players that had the "immature spoiled rich kid" aura around them. There's no doubt in my mind that it carries up through the ranks, and takes a while to outgrow.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Mar 12 @ 7:21 PM ET
Yeah, Beezer may have an inside track with this guy, but to say "I hate American players"?

I doubt it.

- grand-magus


He probably said "i hate american beers" after his 12th.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Mar 12 @ 7:26 PM ET
I do remember a press conference of his, I believe it was over the summer, when he made the comment that "we have a lot of American prospects", and it wasn't exactly in a beaming tone.

The one thing about "Canadian versus American" players I will say is this: if you look at the National Teams at their best, the Canadians have far more players you would want to build your team around than any other country. It's not that they necessarily have better players. They simply have more of them. I will say that the "Canadian" aspect is one of the reasons I favor McDavid over Eichel. The odds are better if you go with the Canadian, though it's far from a guarantee.

- buffalofan19


We have a lot of American prospects because they started looking at them and Euro prospects more the past 2 drafts because you have more time with them. I remember reading it somewhere that they hate the restrictions that are put on them with the guys in the CHL. If they're in the NCAA or in Europe, they have more time to sign them after the draft and can have a bit more of a hand in how they develop.
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