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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 13 @ 12:53 PM ET
My opinion wasn't based on that he wouldn't be fine at wing. I want Giroux carrying the puck and working the middle of the ice.
- MJL

Voracek seems to carry the puck plenty as a winger.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 13 @ 12:54 PM ET
Voracek seems to carry the puck plenty as a winger.
- JAKEw1234


You're imagining things.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:54 PM ET
Voracek seems to carry the puck plenty as a winger.
- JAKEw1234


Good point, but I still want Giroux at Center. I don't see any reason to move him to Wing in my opinion.
kellyblaise7
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Haddon Township, NJ
Joined: 07.21.2012

Mar 13 @ 12:55 PM ET
I didn't mix hypotheticals up. I responded to posts that discussed the hypothetical of the team getting better and stronger in the future. My opinion on this conversation was about Giroux's level of play on the current team.
It's not contradictory to say that if the team is good or bad in terms of looking at what kind of attention and checking Giroux is going to see in games, as the team's best player. It's just the way it is in the NHL.

- MJL



So all you're saying, in the most circuitous manner, is that a team's best (forward) player will face the opposition's best checking line and shutdown D pair every game?

I think everyone on this message board would agree with that fact.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 13 @ 12:56 PM ET
He never stays in one position/line long enough for any definitive conclusion to be drawn.
- Tomahawk


Or with consistent linemates.

Edit: damn it, redundant. (did you cheat and edit your post?)
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 12:58 PM ET
So all you're saying, in the most circuitous manner, is that a team's best (forward) player will face the opposition's best checking line and shutdown D pair every game?

I think everyone on this message board would agree with that fact.

- kellyblaise7


There was nothing circuitous about what I was saying. I said it directly in offering my own opinion on Giroux and the season he is having.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 12:59 PM ET
Or with consistent linemates.
- wolfhounds


Raffl/Read - Schenn - Voracek needs to happen.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:00 PM ET
what the (frank) does circuitous mean
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:04 PM ET
what the (frank) does circuitous mean
- PhillaBully


Square-shaped.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:05 PM ET
Square-shaped.
- wolfhounds




Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 1:05 PM ET
what the (frank) does circuitous mean
- PhillaBully


Round & round
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:07 PM ET
Raffl/Read - Schenn - Voracek needs to happen.
- Tomahawk


We can't mess with the lines now, not with all the success the team has been having and the playoffs on the line...BUT, if things start to go south and it looks like the team is going to miss the post-season, why not try building a better mousetrap on the first 2 lines?

Read/G/Simmer
Raffl/Schenn/Jake
PEB/Couts/?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
Round & round
- Jsaquella


That's crazy talk.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:10 PM ET

- MJL


shouldnt you change you avatar to daenerys?

PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Mar 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
Square-shaped.
- wolfhounds

be quite puppydog
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
what the (frank) does circuitous mean
- PhillaBully


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Mar 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
what the (frank) does circuitous mean
- PhillaBully


It's MJL's insides
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
what the (frank) does circuitous mean
- PhillaBully

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
We can't mess with the lines now, not with all the success the team has been having and the playoffs on the line...BUT, if things start to go south and it looks like the team is going to miss the post-season, why not try building a better mousetrap on the first 2 lines?

Read/G/Simmer
Raffl/Schenn/Jake
PEB/Couts/?

- wolfhounds


I'd be really interested to see what Pedobear could do w/ better linemates... guy's all over the puck.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:15 PM ET
It's MJL's insides
- Streit2ThePoint


He couldn't disagree with you more there.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 13 @ 1:20 PM ET
Good point, but I still want Giroux at Center. I don't see any reason to move him to Wing in my opinion.
- MJL

My biggest reason is BSchenn. I think he's played better at center than wing. Moving G to the wing would let Schenn play a position he seems more comfortable at.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 13 @ 1:22 PM ET
I'd be really interested to see what Pedobear could do w/ better linemates... guy's all over the puck.
- Tomahawk

Pebbles-Laughton-Raffl? That doesnt sound bad at all on paper.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
My biggest reason is BSchenn. I think he's played better at center than wing. Moving G to the wing would let Schenn play a position he seems more comfortable at.
- JAKEw1234


I guess that's where we disagree. I personally don't see any evidence that he's played better at center versus wing.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
My biggest reason is BSchenn. I think he's played better at center than wing. Moving G to the wing would let Schenn play a position he seems more comfortable at.
- JAKEw1234


i don't think he has played better at center. Agree to disagree on that.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
Good point, but I still want Giroux at Center. I don't see any reason to move him to Wing in my opinion.
- MJL


They should mover Giroux to the wing one game. See what happens. WHy not? This season is done anyways. Put Giroux on the right of coots and see what happens. I don't want to watch the flyers the rest of the season if they're just gonna keep rolling the same awful lines, with the same lackadaisical attitude.
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