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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
Why didn't it work out. I thought it worked out more than fine. It was a shame that injuries took its toll.

I'd make that Lindros trade again tomorrow. And the day after.

- 77rams

This current team is slowly pushing me in that direction as well.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 13 @ 3:59 PM ET
One more year after this one. One more year.

Then the infusion of young talent can start to begin and hopefully support Giroux/Voracek before they age too much.

That's what I keep muttering in my head. One more year.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:01 PM ET
One more year after this one. One more year.

Then the infusion of young talent can start to begin and hopefully support Giroux/Voracek before they age too much.

That's what I keep muttering in my head. One more year.

- flyer_nutter

The D prospects won't be making a big impact for at least two years.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
Being at the 8th spot in the draft as it stands, who should the Flyers be interested in so far? Are we set at defense in terms of prospects?

Would you move up if possible? Will Edmonton make their first/second overall pick available? Edmonton is the only team who's had one opportunity after another to turn around their franchise like the Islanders and Lightning.

6'5 natural winger Jordan Greenway is interesting to me. Not only is he big but he's a great skater and based on what I'm reading, strong along the walls.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:03 PM ET
Knowing how Forsberg turned out I wouldn't.
Not knowing how Forsberg turned out I would.

Other than Rinaldo I am hard pressed to think of a current player i would move Giroux, Voracek and 2 firsts for.

- opeth_pa


would you trade that package for any two players on the pens?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:04 PM ET
Being at the 8th spot in the draft as it stands, who should the Flyers be interested in so far? Are we set at defense in terms of prospects?

Would you move up if possible? Will Edmonton make their first/second overall pick available? Edmonton is the only team who's had one opportunity after another to turn around their franchise like the Islanders and Lightning.

6'5 natural winger Jordan Greenway is interesting to me. Not only is he big but he's a great skater and based on what I'm reading, strong along the walls.

- SuperSchennBros


If Hanafin falls to 4 I'm all over him. Use the Kimmo picks to move up.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 13 @ 4:15 PM ET
Being at the 8th spot in the draft as it stands, who should the Flyers be interested in so far? Are we set at defense in terms of prospects?

Would you move up if possible? Will Edmonton make their first/second overall pick available? Edmonton is the only team who's had one opportunity after another to turn around their franchise like the Islanders and Lightning.

6'5 natural winger Jordan Greenway is interesting to me. Not only is he big but he's a great skater and based on what I'm reading, strong along the walls.

- SuperSchennBros


Greenway's a nice power forward, but a reach for a team picking in the top 10.
aflyerpower8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AL
Joined: 06.03.2014

Mar 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
Being at the 8th spot in the draft as it stands, who should the Flyers be interested in so far? Are we set at defense in terms of prospects?

Would you move up if possible? Will Edmonton make their first/second overall pick available? Edmonton is the only team who's had one opportunity after another to turn around their franchise like the Islanders and Lightning.

6'5 natural winger Jordan Greenway is interesting to me. Not only is he big but he's a great skater and based on what I'm reading, strong along the walls.

- SuperSchennBros


I wouldn't say we are set on defensive prospects. As good as I think the big four are, we should still take the best player available even if its a defenseman.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
I wouldn't say we are set on defensive prospects. As good as I think the big four are, we should still take the best player available even if its a defenseman.
- aflyerpower8


Your first pick in the first round? Always take the BPA.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:25 PM ET
I wouldn't say we are set on defensive prospects. As good as I think the big four are, we should still take the best player available even if its a defenseman.
- aflyerpower8

Sanheim is a 2. Ghost and Morin are 3-4 types most likely. I certainly wouldn't pass over a great D man just because of these guys.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Mar 13 @ 4:26 PM ET
I wouldn't say we are set on defensive prospects. As good as I think the big four are, we should still take the best player available even if its a defenseman.
- aflyerpower8


Agree here...especially the extra trade value if we hit on it. Defensemen are like Euros vs. dollars!
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 13 @ 4:29 PM ET
Your first pick in the first round? Always take the BPA.
- 77rams



I would take the best player available but that said if two players are deemed equal I think I would go forward.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:30 PM ET
would you trade that package for any two players on the pens?
- stayinthefnnet



If I am getting Crosby and Malkin then I would.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 13 @ 4:36 PM ET
I would take the best player available but that said if two players are deemed equal I think I would go forward.
- nastyflyergirl


If this was the 2008 draft, do you choose Stamkos or Doughty?

And no...LSchenn isn't an option.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:38 PM ET
If I am getting Crosby and Malkin then I would.
- opeth_pa


how about its one of them, and the other player has to be someone else. Letang/maatta?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Mar 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
Sanheim is a 2. Ghost and Morin are 3-4 types most likely. I certainly wouldn't pass over a great D man just because of these guys.
- hereticpride

Dude we have no idea if these guys can even transfer their skills to the NHL, how could you assign them specific D levels like that? I've heard plenty of people that claim Sanheim and Morin could be #1s, and that Hagg could be a #2.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
If this was the 2008 draft, do you choose Stamkos or Doughty?

And no...LSchenn isn't an option.

- 77rams



thats a tough one. stamkos is the popular pick for first overall choice if everyone was redrafted right now.

but doughty is such a stud, at exactly what you need.

starting a team from scratch, it might be more tempting to go stamkos. but for the flyers, its hard to not go doughty.

if he is on this team, i think they make the playoffs.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:45 PM ET
Dude we have no idea if these guys can even transfer their skills to the NHL, how could you assign them specific D levels like that? I've heard plenty of people that claim Sanheim and Morin could be #1s, and that Hagg could be a #2.
- JAKEw1234

Exactly! But I do agree that if the BPA when they pick is a Dman, you take him
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 13 @ 4:46 PM ET
If this was the 2008 draft, do you choose Stamkos or Doughty?

And no...LSchenn isn't an option.

- 77rams

I take Doughty, true #1 franchise dmen who can play nearly 30 mins per game are worth their weight in gold
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
Dude we have no idea if these guys can even transfer their skills to the NHL, how could you assign them specific D levels like that? I've heard plenty of people that claim Sanheim and Morin could be #1s, and that Hagg could be a #2.
- JAKEw1234


So true. I think everyone likes to hope for the best (myself included) but there's no real way to tell unless we watch/see it happen.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 13 @ 4:51 PM ET
If this was the 2008 draft, do you choose Stamkos or Doughty?

And no...LSchenn isn't an option.

- 77rams



I get your point. Obviously this organization is in dire need of a #1. but those 2 were #1 and #2 overall. Looking at the #8-12 slot if the two players on your board were deemed equal I would go forward.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
thats a tough one. stamkos is the popular pick for first overall choice if everyone was redrafted right now.

but doughty is such a stud, at exactly what you need.

starting a team from scratch, it might be more tempting to go stamkos. but for the flyers, its hard to not go doughty.

if he is on this team, i think they make the playoffs.

- stayinthefnnet



ehhh I still think that's a stretch. You can throw doughty on the ice for half the game, but other defenders have to play other half... and we still have awful defensemen even if we did have doughty lol
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
Being at a position of a major advantage by having two firsts in a deep draft, it's a great mindset to go with the best player available but with that second pick in the first round, draft at a position of need. I think this franchise needs to stop trying to turn centers into wingers.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
ehhh I still think that's a stretch. You can throw doughty on the ice for half the game, but other defenders have to play other half... and we still have awful defensemen even if we did have doughty lol
- benjichronic


yeah, but i think you would see such a difference simply through the slotting and minutes getting cut for other guys.

all of a sudden, maybe amac, or whoever, doesnt get as many tough minutes. (i know people on here debate that he does or doesnt already haha but thats not really my point)

regardless, i think it would have a trickle down effect throughout the entire defense, as well as the offense through better transitions and entries.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 13 @ 5:01 PM ET
ehhh I still think that's a stretch. You can throw doughty on the ice for half the game, but other defenders have to play other half... and we still have awful defensemen even if we did have doughty lol
- benjichronic

Well I'd say Doughty is worth at least 10 additional points and 80 would have them in right now. If they had Doughty, they'd still have Coburn and that would be an excellent top pair that can eat huge minutes.
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