No matter who wins the Ashbee, they will undoubtedly be one of the more underserving Ashbee winners of all time.
- jmatchett383

I guess Streit wins it by default. He's been pretty good on the PP most of the year.

Again that depends on the 3 teams that hold that pick and would they want B Schenn.
- MBFlyerfan

Arizona needs Centers in a bad way. If theyre picking 3rd I could see them doing a deal like that over taking Hanafin.

Arizona needs Centers in a bad way. If theyre picking 3rd I could see them doing a deal like that over taking Hanafin.
- hereticpride

So Schenn and Tampa's pick for Arizona's #1?

Because I wouldn't trade them our own #1.

I guess Streit wins it by default. He's been pretty good on the PP most of the year.
- PLindbergh31

They should give it to Timonen on the 25th. A little early, but he didn't have any screwups while a member of the team.

Re the Ashbee award: I'd give that to Mason too , lord knows he's bailed out those assclowns enough times this year to deserve it.
- BiggE

So i take it you were one of the 'other' votes?

MDZ surprisingly leading this thing.

So i take it you were one of the 'other' votes?

MDZ surprisingly leading this thing.
- Tomahawk

According to Mike, Streit is a turnover machine.

They should give it to Timonen on the 25th. A little early, but he didn't have any screwups while a member of the team.
- tangent_man

We could give it to Pronger.

I have to go with Streit for the Ashbee award.

Last night is a perfect reason why there should not be a shootout.

St. Louis outplayed the Flyers for close to 50 minutes last night, and only spectacular goaltending by Steve Mason kept it even. Even so, neither team was able to score a goal in regulation, yet the NHL feels the need to reward a team that has not scored with a "win." However, in a slightly alternate universe, the Flyers could have conceivably won the shootout. Therefore, a team that was outplayed for the almost the entire game and that was unable to score a single goal would be rewarded with a "win." Yes, the shootout is obviously the best way to decide a game.

Well in Giroux's case it does'nt. Even with a severe drop off in talent after Voracek. He still manages to produce offensively. Giroux and Voracek are literally on an island.... all by themeselves and every team knows it. So they are focused on immensely all game long and that has been proven to be the key to success against the Flyers.
- GOA88

Giroux and Voracek really haven't been producing at the level they should be lately, and have been slumping. I agree that the Flyers lack offensive scoring depth this season, which is evidenced by their difficulty in scoring lately. Every top player is focused on immensely in a game. I don't think it's asking too much for the Flyers top players to provide leadership on the ice, by scoring or setting up a goal.

Steve Mason hasn't been getting much support in a lot of games, it's not stopping him from playing at a star level.

hartnell and timmonen were missed this year. i wanted to avoid watching the remaining games but my son is still interested in watching sooo, i just try not to get overly aggravated.

I'm still not totally buying into this patidnce thing due to the fact the product out there is plain awful. i think in the clarke and homer tenure's trading away prospects was ill advised because the team's were very competitive, yet they were always questionable in net. granted a tweak here and there may have been necessary but right now, If I'm hextall i go against the grain and see what's available in terms of proven players. we couldve had keith yandle at the deadline and that would've drastically improved our d-corps which is the team's biggest flaw. he may not be an "all situations defenseman" but he's a helluva lot closer to that than what we have now and at half his salary that wouldve been sweet. but i guess we'll suck for the next decade until the "kids" are ready.
- JoeRussomanno

I doubt we could have gotten into the Keith Yandle market.

This isn't 1996 and you can't just move players without salary cap repercussions.

Last night is a perfect reason why there should not be a shootout.

St. Louis outplayed the Flyers for close to 50 minutes last night, and only spectacular goaltending by Steve Mason kept it even. Even so, neither team was able to score a goal in regulation, yet the NHL feels the need to reward a team that has not scored with a "win." However, in a slightly alternate universe, the Flyers could have conceivably won the shootout. Therefore, a team that was outplayed for the almost the entire game and that was unable to score a single goal would be rewarded with a "win." Yes, the shootout is obviously the best way to decide a game.
- jmatchett383

The shootout is an abomination of a team game. It was a vile marketing ploy by the commissioner who came from the NBA. Of all the things they have done to alter the game its one of the 3 things I hate the most ( along with the salary cap and the draft "lottery".

Well done, Mason, holding off the Blues almost single-handedly. Sorry the rest of the team didn't make the flight to St Louis with you. Here's to hoping you're benched the rest of the season for making everybody else look bad and the team doesn't earn any more points!

Ghost 4 Ashbee.

Again that depends on the 3 teams that hold that pick and would they want B Schenn.
- MBFlyerfan

Other GMs: You want what for Brayden Schenn?

Last night is a perfect reason why there should not be a shootout.

St. Louis outplayed the Flyers for close to 50 minutes last night, and only spectacular goaltending by Steve Mason kept it even. Even so, neither team was able to score a goal in regulation, yet the NHL feels the need to reward a team that has not scored with a "win." However, in a slightly alternate universe, the Flyers could have conceivably won the shootout. Therefore, a team that was outplayed for the almost the entire game and that was unable to score a single goal would be rewarded with a "win." Yes, the shootout is obviously the best way to decide a game.
- jmatchett383

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?

This is probably a dumb question, but has a goalie ever worn the C or the A?

As for the Asbee trophy I would give it to Mason as well. You can make a case for Voracek too.

Last night is a perfect reason why there should not be a shootout.

St. Louis outplayed the Flyers for close to 50 minutes last night, and only spectacular goaltending by Steve Mason kept it even. Even so, neither team was able to score a goal in regulation, yet the NHL feels the need to reward a team that has not scored with a "win." However, in a slightly alternate universe, the Flyers could have conceivably won the shootout. Therefore, a team that was outplayed for the almost the entire game and that was unable to score a single goal would be rewarded with a "win." Yes, the shootout is obviously the best way to decide a game.
- jmatchett383

Teams that get outplayed often win games on fluky bounces, missed calls, the powerplay and/or strong goal-tending.

I wouldn't mind the NHL going from 4v4 to 3v3 to decide the game. And I think OT games automatically becoming 3 point affairs is a problem, but I doubt that gets resolved any time soon.

The shootout is a bad way to decide a game, but I'll take that over a tie any day.

This is probably a dumb question, but has a goalie ever worn the C or the A?

As for the Asbee trophy I would give it to Mason as well. You can make a case for Voracek too.
- MatveiDmitrii

There is a rule against goalies wearing the "C".

Other GMs: You want what for Brayden Schenn?


- johndewar

Giroux and Voracek really haven't been producing at the level they should be lately, and have been slumping. I agree that the Flyers lack offensive scoring depth this season, which is evidenced by their difficulty in scoring lately. Every top player is focused on immensely in a game. I don't think it's asking too much for the Flyers top players to provide leadership on the ice, by scoring or setting up a goal.

Steve Mason hasn't been getting much support in a lot of games, it's not stopping him from playing at a star level.
- MJL

This is probably a dumb question, but has a goalie ever worn the C or the A?

As for the Asbee trophy I would give it to Mason as well. You can make a case for Voracek too.
- MatveiDmitrii

Voracek and Mason should get every award...The 2 best Flyer players

When you're a top player in this league, your game shouldn't depend on adding better players.
- MJL

And yet, history has shown that it does

Not arguing with you today. Not in the mood

Teams that get outplayed often win games on fluky bounces, missed calls, the powerplay and/or strong goal-tending.

I wouldn't mind the NHL going from 4v4 to 3v3 to decide the game. And I think OT games automatically becoming 3 point affairs is a problem, but I doubt that gets resolved any time soon.

The shootout is a bad way to decide a game, but I'll take that over a tie any day.
- wolfhounds

Ties are the worst thing since whatever was the last worst thing.

I'd rather have entire games of shootouts than ties.

Apparently, breakaways are such an anomaly in hockey, the ref should blow the whistle when they occur in the course of the game because, according to some, breakaways are apparently not part of the game, just a gimmick, and really don't require any hockey skill to execute.

But ties are (frank)ing fantastic. They are as Canadian as free health care, being passive aggressive, and female doging about your neighbor to the South.

And yet, history has shown that it does

Not arguing with you today. Not in the mood
- AllInForFlyers

Gretzky in LA vs Gretzky in Edmonton...Case closed.