i don't know. I'd have to do more scouting. i've seen brown play a ton and played against him a few times. guance i've seen maybe twice. MAYBe.

to me stats are only part of the equation.
- clark_griswold

I guess my point is that Brown as a 6th rd pick has increased his value so much, that a swap for a 1st rd prospect in the same draft would't even be a no brainer.
How tall is this kid really? 5'11 ..if he was an inch taller would anyone give a poop about size?

well to be fair, connor hasn't made the NHL yet....and may not ever
- clark_griswold

exactly...neither have any of the upcoming draft picks.

wonder what they said about Marty St. Louis as this point in this career? or Gaudreau two years ago?

I guess since Gaudreau was drafted in what the third or fourth round it hindered his progress enormously.

The constant implication that a player is too small or was drafted late mean nothing - only reflects the scouts inability to look past the obvious. Same goes for really big kids. He's slow of foot, he's had an off-year, ... surprising actually that no one ever thinks about how growing that quickly might effect coordination or fatigue. Or a smaller guy being forced to gain weight might slow him down.

or corey locke or most of these guys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHL_Top_Scorer_Award
- clark_griswold

recent years are still to be decided
Kane, Crosbyx2, Richards, Briere, Savard


even Allison and PMB were NHLers



not as bad as you make it out to be

exactly...neither have any of the upcoming draft picks.

wonder what they said about Marty St. Louis as this point in this career? or Gaudreau two years ago?

I guess since Gaudreau was drafted in what the third or fourth round it hindered his progress enormously.

The constant implication that a player is too small or was drafted late mean nothing - only reflects the scouts inability to look past the obvious. Same goes for really big kids. He's slow of foot, he's had an off-year, ... surprising actually that no one ever thinks about how growing that quickly might effect coordination or fatigue. Or a smaller guy being forced to gain weight might slow him down.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Why is he being compared to guys that are 3 inches shorter than him? It's just as well we compare him to a 6'2 guy then

I guess my point is that Brown as a 6th rd pick has increased his value so much, that a swap for a 1st rd prospect in the same draft would't even be a no brainer.
How tall is this kid really? 5'11 ..if he was an inch taller would anyone give a poop about size?
- GardinerExpress

Oh i love connor brown. i really hope he makes it and has a good career. he's a great kid. I just don't have him down as a future piece of the team along with Rielly and Nylander.

I've always felt he won't make it...then the Hockey News 2 weeks ago ranks him 6th best on the leafs prospect list. It's not the BIble but it goes to show there's been a ton of connor browns in the past that are career AHLers.

He is 5'11 but very lanky/skinny

Pre-tan. First impressions matter
- Canada Cup

The fact that I'm a scientist who is not socially awkward, and will actually make eye contact with people is enough of a first impression; I don't need to go pushing my luck there...

recent years are still to be decided
Kane, Crosbyx2, Richards, Briere, Savard


even Allison and PMB were NHLers



not as bad as you make it out to be
- PinkSock

Corey Locke didn't have the speed to make up for his size.
wicked hands and vision though. I saw him play alot in the AHL.
the big difference between him and a guy like Marner, is that Marner is much quicker.

Corey Locke didn't have the speed to make up for his size.
wicked hands and vision though. I saw him play alot in the AHL.
the big difference between him and a guy like Marner, is that Marner is much quicker.
- GardinerExpress

for sure
watched Marner this year at the Yardman (big ice) he can jet

exactly...neither have any of the upcoming draft picks.

wonder what they said about Marty St. Louis as this point in this career? or Gaudreau two years ago?

I guess since Gaudreau was drafted in what the third or fourth round it hindered his progress enormously.

The constant implication that a player is too small or was drafted late mean nothing - only reflects the scouts inability to look past the obvious. Same goes for really big kids. He's slow of foot, he's had an off-year, ... surprising actually that no one ever thinks about how growing that quickly might effect coordination or fatigue. Or a smaller guy being forced to gain weight might slow him down.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Sorry, Kessel blows this argument out of the syrup bowl

Oh i love connor brown. i really hope he makes it and has a good career. he's a great kid. I just don't have him down as a future piece of the team along with Rielly and Nylander.

I've always felt he won't make it...then the Hockey News 2 weeks ago ranks him 6th best on the leafs prospect list. It's not the BIble but it goes to show there's been a ton of connor browns in the past that are career AHLers.

He is 5'11 but very lanky/skinny
- clark_griswold

I think his size is verblown a bit. Giroux is 5'11 and we rarely here people talking about his size.
maybe Connor goes out and puts on 15 pounds of lean mass over the offseason.
5'11 and 190 would be a good start

This is utter horsepoop.

Our two best forward prospects outside of Nylander (Brown and Johnson) are both 6th round picks.

Some people here wouldn't know value if it whipped out it's Richard and smacked 'em with it.


oh and good morning
- TheThrill

I don't think I want to know value....

for sure
watched Marner this year at the Yardman (big ice) he can jet
- PinkSock

If he couldn't, he would be ranked in the 5th rd, not 5th overall haha

I think his size is verblown a bit. Giroux is 5'11 and we rarely here people talking about his size.
maybe Connor goes out and puts on 15 pounds of lean mass over the offseason.
5'11 and 190 would be a good start
- GardinerExpress

what was Kadri his draft year, and Brown works hard hes already added muscle from last year , he does what he needs to do

The fact that I'm a scientist who is not socially awkward, and will actually make eye contact with people is enough of a first impression; I don't need to go pushing my luck there...
- lumlums

And the fact you. are English means pretan is not in your wheelhouse... Really white... White.. Slightly off white, and red.

what was Kadri his draft year, and Brown works hard hes already added muscle from last year , he does what he needs to do
- PinkSock

2nd in rookie scoring, 8 PIM.

If he couldn't, he would be ranked in the 5th rd, not 5th overall haha
- GardinerExpress

I got no problem with drafting him

Have a good day dill holes, stop hating on our Ginger

Guys...

I have been Connor Brown this whole time.

Why is he being compared to guys that are 3 inches shorter than him? It's just as well we compare him to a 6'2 guy then
- GardinerExpress

just a silly comparison because people always commenting on his lack of size.

there's an interesting commentary that Bozak made I believe during his final year of college hockey... how he grew taller by 3 inches in the year after his draft year I believe...

I hope the team management isn't so stupid as to prevent giving a guy a shot because he's shorter than the "norm" or wasn't drafted in the first round.

Biggs. Enough said.

I got no problem with drafting him
- PinkSock

Big guys can't just manhandle the small fast guys anymore either with the way games are called. Smaller players are becoming more and more commonplace in the league. They still need to have a bit of an extra gear to fight for space but I think the smaller guys are getting much longer looks these days.

well to be fair, connor hasn't made the NHL yet....and may not ever
- clark_griswold

for me, those 6th round picks, until they actually prove themselves at the NHL level i expect nothing from them. sometimes i get surprised (Gallagher) but most of the time, you end up realizing why they were drafted where they were. i think it's just a safer assumption. i recognize that it's tempting when a guy comes in and has a dynamite rookie year in the A, but the question i ask is, what do they do in the NHL when that extra split second they have in the AHL is gone? i think that's so often what separates the high scoring AHL guys from the NHL guys.

I don't think I want to know value....
- Bigzby

All I wanted was that statement to be acknowledged. Thanks Bigz

Bottom line: It's important to draft well in every round. Thus, 6th rounders aren't as disposable as some make them out to be

Craig Button has Hannifan at #12.

And the fact you. are English means pretan is not in your wheelhouse... Really white... White.. Slightly off white, and red.
- Big_Lightnin

There's some Greek blood mixed in a few generations back so I'm not that bad; it's enough to offset the scottish great-great-grandmother anyway...

just a silly comparison because people always commenting on his lack of size.

there's an interesting commentary that Bozak made I believe during his final year of college hockey... how he grew taller by 3 inches in the year after his draft year I believe...

I hope the team management isn't so stupid as to prevent giving a guy a shot because he's shorter than the "norm" or wasn't drafted in the first round.

Biggs. Enough said.
- BorjeFan4Ever

I've heard thats why you see more Euro players show up on the radar in their late teens. Their development programs/leagues don't drop kids off the map because they havent hit their growth spurts yet whereas in NA it's very common that smaller kids get discouraged from continuing on.