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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:28 PM ET
Ill save you some time, your list should have one name: Connor McDavid. We got the lotto in the bag
- KINGKENZO


Uh okay
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 10:28 PM ET
I had clicking once... turned out I just didn't drive the car that much
- 2Real


When we had that especially cold spell, I neglected to start our 2nd car for a few days and I had to get the jump box out of my work truck to get it going.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 18 @ 10:28 PM ET
Yep, can't discount Mason's drive. Hell, he was stellar after getting hurt in the Boston game and when it locked up vs Washington. The guy is a warrior, and I get that he wants to fight through the pain.

But at this point, they're cleaning up the bar after the brawl.

- Jsaquella


I am unsure, as I said, how much he is hurt

But it is concerning that he continues to talk about it -- he clearly feels that where he is isn't quite what he prefers, physically
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
No problem. Hope it was helpful. I bring my own vaseline to the mechanic's now.
- Jsaquella


my main issue with the mechanic/car related poop, is that i have really no idea what is being said or going on.

i mean, i can look up basic stuff online and compare prices like anyone else can, but i just hate the notion of not having a (frank)ing clue of what is actually required, needs to be done, or was done, other than what i'm told.

i hate the notion of having to just totally take it at face value, when i have absolutely could be getting shafted.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
I just got the 100 bucks back that the feds took from my paychecks back.

College.

- Giroux_Is_God



My return was lower this year than it has been in the last 4 or 5 years. Still paid for our vacation...and the dishwasher.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
The only person around here who can talk with any expertise is Briere, and even that is secondhand knowledge. None of us knows how much Mason has been affected by HIS surgery

Guys can play hurt, and they can play well. But that doesn't mean they aren't hurt, and it doesn't mean they should be playing

Mason's honesty should be applauded, and more players should speak up and say exactly how they are feeling and what they are dealing with

It didn't help a single person for RJ Umberger to soldier on. The examples of concussions are absolutely valid, because for years, players were told by team medical staff that there were no long-term risks for damage when they had every inkling that there was -- there's a reason why "League of Denial" didn't get the authors sued and why the league paid hundreds of millions of dollars to settle

The last thing anybody should believe is when a team-employed physician or trainer tells a player that he should play. Players should often obtain second opinions -- Eric Lindros wasn't perfect, but the smartest thing he ever did was stop listening to team-employed physicians

- AllInForFlyers


Wasn't claiming to be talking with any expertise. Don't really need to have expertise to form an opinion on the situation. Just as you don't. If Mason was in a situation where he was in a lot of pain, or was limited due to his knee issue, he wouldn't be able to play at the level he has been playing in my opinion.
I disagree that players should be forthcoming to the media about injuries. That should be handled by the team, and one voice.

Teams told players in a lot of cases to keep playing with concussion systems, because there was a lack of knowledge within the medical community on how to diagnose, and treat concussions. If Mason had a concussion, the point would be valid. He has a common knee issue, which they know how to diagnose and treat.
The last thing anybody should believe is that the Flyers are putting Mason at risk and mishandling him, under the umbrella of doctors made mistakes in the past, and because of what happened to Eric Lindros 20 years ago.
I also don't believe that reputable Doctor's are going to put their careers in jeopardy, and risk malpractice so the team can succeed.
Players have rights under the CBA for medical issues, such as getting 2nd opinions.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
When we had that especially cold spell, I neglected to start our 2nd car for a few days and I had to get the jump box out of my work truck to get it going.
- Jsaquella


yeah. i thought about that too. but it didnt make sense to me for my car to have 0 issues when we were steady below ten degrees for a month, only to (frank) up when it hits the 50s.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
Anyone know if Mason is 100%?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 18 @ 10:30 PM ET
I just got the 100 bucks back that the feds took from my paychecks back.

College.

- Giroux_Is_God


haha more than i wouldve got back.

Grad School.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:31 PM ET
haha having to bite the bullet on relatively no income can be easier said than done.
- stayinthefnnet


I hear you. Sucks when you're in college with no money.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:31 PM ET
When we had that especially cold spell, I neglected to start our 2nd car for a few days and I had to get the jump box out of my work truck to get it going.
- Jsaquella

Yeah similarly my dad's infinity wouldn't start up because he had a pretty empty gas tank for a while and keeping the car in the garage condensed the gas fumes in the tank because it was so goddamn cold out that there was actually water droplets in the liquid gasoline and it would turn the engine over every once in a while.

Keeping the tank filled for the most part did the trick. Luckily it was gas was like 2.15 or whatever the hell it was.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Wasn't claiming to be talking with any expertise. Don't really need to have expertise to form an opinion on the situation. Just as you don't. If Mason was in a situation where he was in a lot of pain, or was limited due to his knee issue, he wouldn't be able to play at the level he has been playing in my opinion.
I disagree that players should be forthcoming to the media about injuries. That should be handled by the team, and one voice.

Teams told players in a lot of cases to keep playing with concussion systems, because there was a lack of knowledge within the medical community on how to diagnose, and treat concussions. If Mason had a concussion, the point would be valid. He has a common knee issue, which they know how to diagnose and treat.
The last thing anybody should believe is that the Flyers are putting Mason at risk and mishandling him, under the umbrella of doctors made mistakes in the past, and because of what happened to Eric Lindros 20 years ago.
I also don't believe that reputable Doctor's are going to put their careers in jeopardy, and risk malpractice so the team can succeed.
Players have rights under the CBA for medical issues, such as getting 2nd opinions.

- MJL


Then if you aren't claiming to be talking with any expertise, then again, it's a totally valid subject for posters to discuss, because you don't know a single thing more than anyone else

Just because you would prefer that no one be critical of the player's handling and of the team medical staff doesn't mean they aren't valid concerns, and just because the player is playing -- i.e., RJ Umberger -- doesn't mean the player isn't hurt more than anyone of us know, including yourself

What you don't believe isn't the basis of what people on this board get to talk about
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:33 PM ET
I am unsure, as I said, how much he is hurt

But it is concerning that he continues to talk about it -- he clearly feels that where he is isn't quite what he prefers, physically

- AllInForFlyers


Who instigated the conversation, Mason or the media? This is exactly why he shouldn't be talking to the media about it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 10:33 PM ET
I am unsure, as I said, how much he is hurt

But it is concerning that he continues to talk about it -- he clearly feels that where he is isn't quite what he prefers, physically

- AllInForFlyers


Yeah. There's probably a bit of frustration in there, too. He can't be happy with the run support he's gotten, the Reese thing is still fresh, it's probably not easy to play as well as he has with the knee still aching...it's been a stressful season for him and the team
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 18 @ 10:34 PM ET
Who instigated the conversation, Mason or the media? This is exactly why he shouldn't be talking to the media about it.
- MJL


That is your opinion, and you are entitled to that

But he is talking about it, and his reality trumps your opinion
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Mar 18 @ 10:35 PM ET
I hear you. Sucks when you're in college with no money.
- MJL


yeah haha. i had my cash at 19 than i do now going on 24
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 10:36 PM ET
my main issue with the mechanic/car related poop, is that i have really no idea what is being said or going on.

i mean, i can look up basic stuff online and compare prices like anyone else can, but i just hate the notion of not having a (frank)ing clue of what is actually required, needs to be done, or was done, other than what i'm told.

i hate the notion of having to just totally take it at face value, when i have absolutely could be getting shafted.

- stayinthefnnet


Unless you have a guy you trust, it's really easy for them to soak you. Unless you have a diagnostic computer at your house and a knowledge of the symptoms, you're really relying on them to not bend you over the fender
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:37 PM ET
Then if you aren't claiming to be talking with any expertise, then again, it's a totally valid subject for posters to discuss, because you don't know a single thing more than anyone else

Just because you would prefer that no one be critical of the player's handling and of the team medical staff doesn't mean they aren't valid concerns, and just because the player is playing -- i.e., RJ Umberger -- doesn't mean the player isn't hurt more than anyone of us know, including yourself

What you don't believe isn't the basis of what people on this board get to talk about

- AllInForFlyers


Never said it wasn't a valid topic of conversation with the story that came out recently, and Mason's comments. It has zero to do with what I prefer. It really has to do with what we know or don't know as fact, and mostly with watching Mason perform on the ice.
When Umberger's injury issues were reported to be worse then anyone thought, his play on the ice mirrored that of a player that was either done, or injured. It was clear that there was an issue with Umberger. Not the case with Mason in my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 18 @ 10:39 PM ET
That is your opinion, and you are entitled to that

But he is talking about it, and his reality trumps your opinion

- AllInForFlyers





It's the interpretation and speculation that is the issue. When speculation is passed off as reality, is where the problems come in.

You seem far more interested in talking about me, then Mason.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 10:39 PM ET
Yeah similarly my dad's infinity wouldn't start up because he had a pretty empty gas tank for a while and keeping the car in the garage condensed the gas fumes in the tank because it was so goddamn cold out that there was actually water droplets in the liquid gasoline and it would turn the engine over every once in a while.

Keeping the tank filled for the most part did the trick. Luckily it was gas was like 2.15 or whatever the hell it was.

- Giroux_Is_God


After this winter, I'm ready to move to Key West with BiggE and screw this area
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 18 @ 10:41 PM ET
yeah haha. i had my cash at 19 than i do now going on 24
- stayinthefnnet


I'm still paying off student loans and my school has the audacity to solicit me for donations. Yeah, I'm going to give you more money while I'm still paying off your damn tutuition costs!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 18 @ 10:42 PM ET
Lundqvist expected to return to NYR in 7-10 days
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 18 @ 10:42 PM ET


It's the interpretation and speculation that is the issue. When speculation is passed off as reality, is where the problems come in.

You seem far more interested in talking about me, then Mason.

- MJL


Not at all -- you expressed your opinion, which is fine. I acknowledged as such

But you belittled others' interpretation of what is being said, and their preferences for seeing Mason shut down. And while you can say what you want, the fact remains that if you do that, you make it about yourself more than the opinions being expressed
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 18 @ 10:43 PM ET
haha more than i wouldve got back.

Grad School.

- stayinthefnnet

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 18 @ 10:43 PM ET
Lundqvist expected to return to NYR in 7-10 days
- Jsaquella


(frank) the rags
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