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Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 19 @ 1:54 PM ET
I would take Crouse at 12 if all the Dmen were gone by then, thats about the right spot for him. But Avs apparently have been scouting Kyle Connor & Mathew Barzal pretty hard lately
- DDM-Coga

Barzal is in most peoples top 10. I have net seen much but he's damn good. If he fell to the avs that would be a no brainer IMO.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Mar 19 @ 1:55 PM ET
He contacted all available Ufa's and they denied him. I guess he's supposed to just be a wizard and put guys under spells and get then to sign here.
- Iggysbff



Just curious- do you work for the Oilers- or how is it you supposively always have the inside scoop on fact of MacT's actions?? Or are you just a fan like the rest of us??
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 19 @ 1:56 PM ET
strome vs hanifin?


not to say I cant see any value in strome/another quality center, but I think its pretty much a no brainer to pick hanifin for a bunch of reasons.

- Ihateallofu

If we pick 3 I think it has to be Hanifin. If later then there are arguments to be made for 4-5 other guys.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 19 @ 1:56 PM ET
Barzal is in most peoples top 10. I have net seen much but he's damn good. If he fell to the avs that would be a no brainer IMO.
- Iggysbff


thats why this draft is going to be so interesting. Those 6-12 picks are going to be all over the place compared to most rankings. Really wont be a bad pick unless you go full jankowski with your pick
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 19 @ 1:58 PM ET
Just curious- do you work for the Oilers- or how is it you supposively always have the inside scoop on fact of MacT's actions?? Or are you just a fan like the rest of us??
- saskoil21

If you actually read the available information then you'd know as well. Dangels and hb77 are saying the same things. I guess they work for the oilers too?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 19 @ 2:00 PM ET
Reallllly need Arizona to figure their crap out and win, I'd hate for us to pick out of the 3 slot.

oilerfan94
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.15.2012

Mar 19 @ 2:01 PM ET
He contacted all available Ufa's and they denied him. I guess he's supposed to just be a wizard and put guys under spells and get then to sign here.
- Iggysbff


trade a pick/prospect for one?
why is free agency the only acceptable way of acquiring here?
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Mar 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
If you actually read the available information then you'd know as well. Dangels and hb77 are saying the same things. I guess they work for the oilers too?
- Iggysbff


I'm not saying I don't but Chet and I did appoint ourselves as Co-GM's...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:03 PM ET
If you actually read the available information then you'd know as well. Dangels and hb77 are saying the same things. I guess they work for the oilers too?
- Iggysbff


Stauffer doesnt necessarily reveal all of the true Oilers interests or offers- and if you follow Edmonton MSM- well I wouldnt say they confidently know whats going on or are too revealing of whom and when the Oilers had deals tabled and they are less inside to the happenings than Stauffer- Alot of stuff is maybe revealed after the fact- but minimal in real time...
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Mar 19 @ 2:05 PM ET
trade a pick/prospect for one?
why is free agency the only acceptable way of acquiring here?

- oilerfan94


Fair point. I'm sure Gagner could have netted a decent center if the Oilers retained salary.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 19 @ 2:06 PM ET
trade a pick/prospect for one?
why is free agency the only acceptable way of acquiring here?

- oilerfan94


Again we don't get to hear all the trade talk that actually goes on in the office but none of the trades anyone talked about in the media were even close to being hockey deals. If a pick or prospect would have done it we would have pulled the trigger. All Mact was offered was poop for our top guys.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
Stauffer doesnt necessarily reveal all of the true Oilers interests or offers- and if you follow Edmonton MSM- well I wouldnt say they confidently know whats going on or are too revealing of whom and when the Oilers had deals tabled and they are less inside to the happenings than Stauffer- Alot of stuff is maybe revealed after the fact- but minimal in real time...
- saskoil21

Yes virtually all of it is revealed after the fact.

I don't think Stauffer is as in tune as many think. He wrote an article saying why Pouliot made no sense for the Oilers and a week later he signs with us. And he's been good.

Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 19 @ 2:09 PM ET
Reallllly need Arizona to figure their crap out and win, I'd hate for us to pick out of the 3 slot.
- ystoil

I don't think it's gonna make a ton of difference.

US finishing higher than 3rd last is very unlikely.

So even if random team wins lottery pushing us down to 4, and one of ari/buf into 3rd spot, I think we still get hanifin.
Both those teams have solid young kids and franchise level defenders as part if their rebuilds. While both have abysmal forward groups and both need centers.
I think they'd both take strome in that case.

just guessing. But I think it's highly plausible
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 19 @ 2:11 PM ET
Fair point. I'm sure Gagner could have netted a decent center if the Oilers retained salary.
- Dangles13

He was dealt for a bottom rounder.
and then bj crombeen I think.

Gagner value was nowhere near what we hoped
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:12 PM ET
Yes virtually all of it is revealed after the fact.

I don't think Stauffer is as in tune as many think. He wrote an article saying why Pouliot made no sense for the Oilers and a week later he signs with us. And he's been good.

- Iggysbff



Pouliot is a rock with that top line... He is proving to be a great pick up thus far for MacT... I just hope Nelson puts Hall with Roy and Yak- to enhance 2nd line scoring even further and possibly create a potential 1a and 1b scoring line scenario- I think the vets with the younger player alignments are obviously clicking and clicking well...
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Mar 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
I'm beginning to turn the corner into Hanafin being the best choice for the Oilers going forward.

1) McDavid
2) Eichel
3) Hanafin
4) Strome or we go off the board for Kylington or Provorov
5) oh god don't take Crouse with our first pick.

- ChetManly

Kylington isn't an option at all. There's no way in hell we take a guy ranked 24th by ISS in the top 5. If that happens I no longer cheer for this team.
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 19 @ 2:13 PM ET
trade a pick/prospect for one?
why is free agency the only acceptable way of acquiring here?

- oilerfan94

It's not.

I just can only guess at the trade talks.
I don't know what happened.

I can guess with some confidence, but it's still not fact.

The only facts we do apparently have is that even centers without alot of options and on the back 9 of their careers were turning us down
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
Kylington isn't an option at all. There's no way in hell we take a guy ranked 24th by ISS in the top 5. If that happens I no longer cheer for this team.
- Ihatebrianburke


Pitts pick should be saved for him if you dont move it
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
I don't think it's gonna make a ton of difference.

US finishing higher than 3rd last is very unlikely.

So even if random team wins lottery pushing us down to 4, and one of ari/buf into 3rd spot, I think we still get hanifin.
Both those teams have solid young kids and franchise level defenders as part if their rebuilds. While both have abysmal forward groups and both need centers.
I think they'd both take strome in that case.

just guessing. But I think it's highly plausible

- Ihateallofu



I would not short change the chances of the later teams offering up nice packages for shots at drafting players in that top 10...
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 19 @ 2:15 PM ET
Pouliot is a rock with that top line... He is proving to be a great pick up thus far for MacT... I just hope Nelson puts Hall with Roy and Yak- to enhance 2nd line scoring even further and possibly create a potential 1a and 1b scoring line scenario- I think the vets with the younger player alignments are obviously clicking and clicking well...
- saskoil21

do not break up that first line
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 19 @ 2:17 PM ET
It's not.

I just can only guess at the trade talks.
I don't know what happened.

I can guess with some confidence, but it's still not fact.

The only facts we do apparently have is that even centers without alot of options and on the back 9 of their careers were turning us down

- Ihateallofu


Which is really depressing.

I do hope we can ink roy but he could very well use us to get his next contract in a desirable place.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Mar 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
He was dealt for a bottom rounder.
and then bj crombeen I think.

Gagner value was nowhere near what we hoped

- Ihateallofu


By decent I meant another Derek Roy type, the Derek Roy on the Oilers and not the waiver wire one. Maybe Detroit would have moved Weiss for Gagner?
Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Meh
Joined: 11.09.2014

Mar 19 @ 2:20 PM ET
I would not short change the chances of the later teams offering up nice packages for shots at drafting players in that top 10...
- saskoil21
I'm missing something here.

U mean if random wins the lottery and we're then in 4th spot, someone might offer a package to buf/Arizona for the 3rd to take hanifin?
It's possible yeah.


It sounds convuluted , but it's really not imo.
As of today, based on a few factors, I'm willing to bet that it's very very likely hanifin is an oiler
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Mar 19 @ 2:21 PM ET
He contacted all available Ufa's and they denied him. I guess he's supposed to just be a wizard and put guys under spells and get then to sign here.
- Iggysbff

No you're right, MacT is god. How dare I say he should've done his job and iced a NHL caliber lineup. Jesus (frank)in christ you get touchy whenever anyone even mentions MacT. I didn't say he was a bad GM. I said he should've done a better job. Does MacT have pics he's holding of you getting railed from behind in a Vancouver jersey or something?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 19 @ 2:21 PM ET
By decent I meant another Derek Roy type, the Derek Roy on the Oilers and not the waiver wire one. Maybe Detroit would have moved Weiss for Gagner?
- Dangles13


is that any better than Purcell? At least he comes off the books after next season. Weiss has 3 more years at 5m
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