Did he not also run into Cap issues that forced him to let go (trade) of few players that he probably did not want to?
- D0PPELGANGER

Yes, he left the team in a bad spot in regards to the cap

Mirtle did a piece and mentioned some of it
http://www.theglobeandmai...ruthless/article24132157/

that Krejci deal is trouble also

another reason I like the leafs Management is they have a Cap guy who understand it now. Loiselle might have been the worst

Yes, he left the team in a bad spot in regards to the cap

Mirtle did a piece and mentioned some of it
http://www.theglobeandmai...ruthless/article24132157/

that Krejci deal is trouble also

another reason I like the leafs Management is they have a Cap guy who understand it now. Loiselle might have been the worst
- senstroll

So theoretically we should see the leafs payroll drop and stay near the "floor" if they follow through with the scorched earth plan, for number of years.

So theoretically we should see the leafs payroll drop and stay near the "floor" if they follow through with the scorched earth plan, for number of years.
- D0PPELGANGER

not sure, depends on if they leafs have to take back a bad contract to move players, to make the deals work out for the other teams cap.

Being near the floor or the near the cap makes no diff at this point for the leafs.

not sure, depends on if they leafs have to take back a bad contract to move players, to make the deals work out for the other teams cap.

Being near the floor or the near the cap makes no diff at this point for the leafs.
- senstroll

Well if the plan is to stockpile draft picks over the next couple of years, and develop the prospects picked with these picks, then they need to get as close to the floor as they can, as they'll need the cap space once these prospects come up for contract renewal down the road.

Well if the plan is to stockpile draft picks over the next couple of years, and develop the prospects picked with these picks, then they need to get as close to the floor as they can, as they'll need the cap space once these prospects come up for contract renewal down the road.
- D0PPELGANGER

not remotely a concern for me, the leafs dont have bumbling idiots in charge anymore

not remotely a concern for me, the leafs dont have bumbling idiots in charge anymore
- senstroll

We aren't certain of that, let it run it's course.

We aren't certain of that, let it run it's course.
- golfingsince

there are no guarantees of success, but the leafs mistakes will be reduced..by a lot Thats easy to see. We have 1 year of Shanny/Dubas/Hunter data to look at

there are no guarantees of success, but the leafs mistakes will be reduced..by a lot Thats easy to see. We have 1 year of Shanny/Dubas/Hunter data to look at
- senstroll

That "year" on the ice was nothing to brag about.

I suspect you're looking at the moves within management and the "scorched earth" plan for the future.

That "year" on the ice was nothing to brag about.

I suspect you're looking at the moves within management and the "scorched earth" plan for the future.
- D0PPELGANGER

Draft william Nylander
Fire Poulin and Loiselle
Hire Kyle Dubas - Assistant GM
Hire Brandon Pridham
Hire Cam Charron Hockey Research & Development, Analyst
Hire Darryl Metcalf Hockey Research & Development, Analyst
Hire Rob Pettapiece Hockey Research & Development, Analyst
Hire Mark Hunter Director Player Personnel
Fire Randy Carlyle
2015 Trade Deadline - Move out Franson, Winink, Santorelli for picks/Prospects
Fire Dave Nonis
Fire Horacek, Spott
Clean out scouting dept

Draft william Nylander
Fire Poulin and Loiselle
Hire Kyle Dubas - Assistant GM
Hire Brandon Pridham
Hire Cam Charron Hockey Research & Development, Analyst
Hire Darryl Metcalf Hockey Research & Development, Analyst
Hire Rob Pettapiece Hockey Research & Development, Analyst
Hire Mark Hunter Director Player Personnel
Fire Randy Carlyle
2015 Trade Deadline - Move out Franson, Winink, Santorelli for picks/Prospects
Fire Dave Nonis
Fire Horacek, Spott
Clean out scouting dept
- senstroll

Now which players should be "moved"?

Now which players should be "moved"?
- D0PPELGANGER

This off season 100%
Bozak
Dion

This off season if possible
Lupul

This off season if the return is good enough
JVR
Bernier

Kessel doesnt have to go now unless you can get a fair return, I dont see the rush with him yet

This off season 100%
Bozak
Dion

This off season if possible
Lupul

This off season if the return is good enough
JVR
Bernier

Kessel doesnt have to go now unless you can get a fair return, I dont see the rush with him yet
- senstroll

I don't see the need to move Bernier. To me he's a better goalie than Reimer, who is also a pretty good goalie.

I think Kessel will fetch a good return, and be moved this summer. But I'm with you. If playing under Horachek did any harm to his value, he should be kept another season.

I don't see the need to move Bernier. To me he's a better goalie than Reimer, who is also a pretty good goalie.

I think Kessel will fetch a good return, and be moved this summer. But I'm with you. If playing under Horachek did any harm to his value, he should be kept another season.
- Feeling Glucky?

i dont see the market for goalies being to good..so Bernier probably stays, unless he is packaged with a Dion or someone else to sweeten the return (better picks)

im pretty sure i reported a post in here while scrolling down using a touch screen

oops

i dont see the market for goalies being to good..so Bernier probably stays, unless he is packaged with a Dion or someone else to sweeten the return (better picks)
- senstroll

If we get an offer like Tim Chiasson's... Jump on it.

Have to wait to see who wins the draft lottery
- senstroll

Oilers win.

Oilers in better position than leafs

Oilers win.

Oilers in better position than leafs
- D0PPELGANGER

It's kind of funny that no matter how many high end prospects one has it certainly isn't some kind of guarantee for success.

The Oilers could win the lottery again. The 29 other owners will go crazy.

The Leafs future looks great. That's all I care about. The Marlies are killing-it right now.

Oilers win.

Oilers in better position than leafs
- D0PPELGANGER

The dopplecurse

Well if the plan is to stockpile draft picks over the next couple of years, and develop the prospects picked with these picks, then they need to get as close to the floor as they can, as they'll need the cap space once these prospects come up for contract renewal down the road.
- D0PPELGANGER

Prospects don't need BIG $$$$ deals until well into their career and taking on dud contracts can be a good way to stockpile picks. Now if they take on a bunch of bad contracts with 6-7 years left that could be a challenge.

How the (frank) is Edmonton at the bottom of the league again

How the (frank) is Edmonton at the bottom of the league again
- senstroll

They suck. They need a generational talent to give them even a sniff of the playoffs... management just doesn't want to give up on any of the talented forwards in order to get a dman or two or three...

I wouldn't be surprised if they draft another forward this year.

How the (frank) is Edmonton at the bottom of the league again
- senstroll

They fail at everything except winning the NHL lottery.

Leafs are so close to 30th...it would be amazing if they could out suck the Oilers (tough task)

Leafs are so close to 30th...it would be amazing if they could out suck the Oilers (tough task)
- senstroll

Trade Reimer now that his value is at its highest..............2 birds, one stone.