then you missed the sarcasm
- funmaster18

by a wide margin.......

Yes me too. But I have to admit the thought isn't off the table and automatically dismissed like it may have been two years ago. It would have to be a serious return to even consider, but I would consider it.

Like a high first round pick, an NHL ready young, top 2 all situations d-man, and an NHL ready top six forward to START. Something along those lines.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm assuming that you might have to take the dman with the pick as most teams won't give up an OEL. But the deal I proposed is Hanifin, 1st round pick (Bittner or Sprong), and Duclair. There is some risk with the first round pick and Hanifin too, but what do you think overall?

I'm assuming that you might have to take the dman with the pick as most teams won't give up an OEL. But the deal I proposed is Hanifin, 1st round pick (Bittner or Sprong), and Duclair. There is some risk with the first round pick and Hanifin too, but what do you think overall?
- TheGreat28

I don't think Arizona bites on a Giroux trade. They specifically asked for Duclair because of his connection with Max Domi in the WJC this year.

I don't think Arizona bites on a Giroux trade. They specifically asked for Duclair because of his connection with Max Domi in the WJC this year.
- KGBflyers10

Fair enough. So they instead offer Brandon Perlini and a 2nd round pick. So you have 3rd overall, chicago pick, Perlini and 2nd round pick (this year).

I'm assuming that you might have to take the dman with the pick as most teams won't give up an OEL. But the deal I proposed is Hanifin, 1st round pick (Bittner or Sprong), and Duclair. There is some risk with the first round pick and Hanifin too, but what do you think overall?
- TheGreat28

For me, not enough proven NHL talent coming back. They could all turn out to be studs. But I would need more sure things in the deal. At least from a proven NHL player standpoint.

I think we just really differ on prospective vs proven talent. But your deal would still merit serious consideration.

For me, not enough proven NHL talent coming back. They could all turn out to be studs. But I would need more sure things in the deal. At least from a proven NHL player standpoint.

I think we just really differ on prospective vs proven talent. But your deal would still merit serious consideration.
- MBFlyerfan

If we're getting McDavid, I'm looking to package B. Schenn and Couturier for an elite left winger.

You keep Giroux as #1 center, McDavid #2 for a season or two, and then have Laughton as #3.

Yes me too. But I have to admit the thought isn't off the table and automatically dismissed like it may have been two years ago. It would have to be a serious return to even consider, but I would consider it.

Like a high first round pick, an NHL ready young, top 2 all situations d-man, and an NHL ready top six forward to START. Something along those lines.
- MBFlyerfan

Yup, for sure

If they really don't expect to have a D in place that can contend for a cup before the latter part of the decade, any player over 25,26 should be considered for a trade if the return is good enough.

For me, not enough proven NHL talent coming back. They could all turn out to be studs. But I would need more sure things in the deal. At least from a proven NHL player standpoint.

I think we just really differ on prospective vs proven talent. But your deal would still merit serious consideration.
- MBFlyerfan

Good points, and fair observation. Probably the key difference is that I'm willing to peak in 3 years, and yes, take on more risk. For me, Hanifin is the franchise #1 that we've been looking for. If only one of Perlini, Bittner/Sprong, and the high 2nd round pick reach their potential, it's a win. If two or more reach it, wow.

It's a Chip Kelly move right. If it succeeds it you'd quite possibly finally get a cup. If it fails, it fails spectacularly and you're out of the league.

If we're getting McDavid, I'm looking to package B. Schenn and Couturier for an elite left winger.

You keep Giroux as #1 center, McDavid #2 for a season or two, and then have Laughton as #3.
- KGBflyers10

If we're getting McDavid, I'd look to package B Schenn with Tampa's 1st and try to move up high enough to get an impact winger (Crouse, Meier, Rantenan, etc..) in this draft.

I'd rather my winger be on an ELC for the next 3 years.

If we're getting McDavid, I'm looking to package B. Schenn and Couturier for an elite left winger.

You keep Giroux as #1 center, McDavid #2 for a season or two, and then have Laughton as #3.
- KGBflyers10

I'd actually want to keep Couturier as my 3rd center. Schenn and Laughton are still great trade chips. The problem is still going to be the defense though. Neither would bring a young franchise dman.

It would make zero sense to fire the coach now in my opinion. There's what 9 games left? The stories, or should I say drama is really only coming from one source, and other media sources are piggy backing on it. That one source is not exactly reliable. When a team is losing, and has a bad season, that generates this kind of nonsense. I honestly believe this entire story line with Mason is massively overblown. Things written by one beat writer become fact, while statements by those who are actually there, such as Ron Hextall, who said there is a lot of inaccuracies being reported, gets swept under the rug. If there was a medical reason to shut Mason down, Hextall would do it. He's in charge. If Hextall thought his head coach was abusing the team's top goaltender, he would put a stop to it, and do something.
- MJL

Steve Mason, Jeff Reese, Vincent Lecavalier and Scott Hartnell. I'd really like to know what's true and what isn't. Sure one story might be false but what about every other story that keeps popping up and putting Berube in a negative light. Funny thing is, I'm not even including the bad Coaching decisions.

by a wide margin.......

- MBFlyerfan

In other words, he pulled a Carter?

If we're getting McDavid, I'd look to package B Schenn with Tampa's 1st and try to move up high enough to get an impact winger (Crouse, Meier, Rantenan, etc..) in this draft.

I'd rather my winger be on an ELC for the next 3 years.
- BiggE

I'd do it for Marner, but not for any of those guys. I think Schenn has more value than that. I'd want a pick coming back I think. Unless the Tampa pick ends up in mid to low 20's. Then I might do it.

If we're getting McDavid, I'm looking to package B. Schenn and Couturier for an elite left winger.

You keep Giroux as #1 center, McDavid #2 for a season or two, and then have Laughton as #3.
- KGBflyers10

If we are getting McDavid then that changes everything. B Schenn gone. Couturier or Laughton (but not both) gone. Get a stud LW wing in, perhaps 2. And an all situation top 4 d-man with top 2 potential.

Very doubtful sir.
- ob18

Not gonna let your skepticism bring me down

Marner @7, Boeser @2X, Konecny @3X.

Emotionally, I agree. He's my favorite player since Lindros. But assuming Arizona would even take that package, man we'd be set up. Think about a defense 3 years from now with Sanheim/Hanifin, Ghost/Morin, Hagg/???. It probably wouldn't look like that because you'd have some vets thrown in.

On offense, you'd have something like this

Duclair - McDavid - Vorachek
Bittner - Barzal - Aube-Kubel
Raffl/Lindblom - Couturier - Simmonds

Or other prospects for Schenn/Laughton/Read.
- TheGreat28

How bout this... would you rather do the g trade you suggested, or a package of something like this- Our 2015 1st rounder, Simmonds, and either schenn or coots (whicheverr they want) for OEL? I think that would be a pretty fair trade. Nothing more valuable to a rebuilding team than draft picks, Simmonds could bring them a lot of offense they've been lacking, if they pick coots, they pick a good 2 way forward that still could drastically improve his offense, or schenn a young tough forward who could also still improve his offense.

Not gonna let your skepticism bring me down

Marner @7, Boeser @2X, Konecny @3X.
- Tomahawk

Bubble burst even this far before the draft sir.

I'd actually want to keep Couturier as my 3rd center. Schenn and Laughton are still great trade chips. The problem is still going to be the defense though. Neither would bring a young franchise dman.
- TheGreat28

Hextall has said over and over he's not willing to sacrifice the future but with this said, I was extremely underwhelmed with what I saw from Scott Laughton in his second go around with the Flyers in three seasons. I felt he tried to do way too much on his own and was prone to mistakes with the puck. Could this all change, of course but I've never see anything like it with a rookie before. Brayden Schenn had a pretty slow start to his career but he still acted as a role player, not a kid trying to be the best player on the ice. Nick Cousins has looked easily more impressive.

Steve Mason, Jeff Reese, Vincent Lecavalier and Scott Hartnell. I'd really like to know what's true and what isn't. Sure one story my be false but what about every other story that keeps popping up and putting Berube in a negative light. Funny thing is, I'm not even including the bad Coaching decisions.
- SuperSchennBros

See I know just firing him really isn't doing much. But maybe to end this season it takes some pressure away from the team.

I'd do it for Marner, but not for any of those guys. I think Schenn has more value than that. I'd want a pick coming back I think. Unless the Tampa pick ends up in mid to low 20's. Then I might do it.
- TheGreat28

I can't imagine Tampa's pick being any better than 21, so if I can package that with B Schenn to get in the top 10, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

If we are getting McDavid then that changes everything. B Schenn gone. Couturier or Laughton (but not both) gone. Get a stud LW wing in, perhaps 2. And an all situation top 4 d-man with top 2 potential.
- MBFlyerfan

The idea of getting McDavid is like when youre at a club and in walks the hottest chick you can think of (model, actress, whatever). In your mind your like.. dude I have a chance.



No.. no you dont.

Bubble burst even this far before the draft sir.
- ob18

You are mean.

Hextall has said over and over he's not willing to sacrifice the future but with this said, I was extremely underwhelmed with what I saw from Scott Laughton in his second go around with the Flyers in three seasons. I felt he tried to do way too much on his own and was prone to mistakes with the puck. Could this all change, of course but I've never see anything like it with a rookie before. Brayden Schenn had a pretty slow start to his career but he still acted as a role player, not a kid trying to be the best player on the ice. Nick Cousins has looked easily more impressive.
- SuperSchennBros

Laughton is only 20 years old and was thrust into a role (2nd line center) that he was clearly not ready for. I'm nowhere near ready to write him off yet.

The idea of getting McDavid is like when youre at a club and in walks the hottest chick you can think of (model, actress, whatever). In your mind your like.. dude I have a chance.



No.. no you dont.
- jak521

Actually, If I had a 6% chance to get in bed with Kate Upton I would be all in.

The idea of getting McDavid is like when youre at a club and in walks the hottest chick you can think of (model, actress, whatever). In your mind your like.. dude I have a chance.



No.. no you dont.
- jak521