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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 9:27 AM ET
This only proves that Corsi doesn't indicate the ability to generate wins or losses That metric doesn't tell a story that indicates anything of value except that the other team shoots more than the Sabres. WGAF.

Hey Arizaona, you got a great Corsi number but you still can't win!

- RynoBull


What it indicates is that even though the Coyotes have a worse roster, their possession is leagues better than the Sabres. Possession can be coached to a certain extent, clearly proof by the above graph of crappy teams, and Nolan can't coach it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 9:29 AM ET
Did you folks listen to Howard's rant?

http://media.wgr550.com/a...es-it-over-tbn-column.htm

It's awesome and it's pretty spot on. Save your WGR jokes because personally I don't GAF. The rant is worth a listen.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:32 AM ET
What it indicates is that even though the Coyotes have a worse roster, their possession is leagues better than the Sabres. Possession can be coached to a certain extent, clearly proof by the above graph of crappy teams, and Nolan can't coach it.
- TheSabresTaco


I have no doubt that there are aspects of Nolan as a coach that come in handy. He seems to relate to the players differently, but I don't know that he should ever actually be a head coach. Assistant would probably work but definitely not head coach.
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:39 AM ET
The issue isn't wanting what's best for the franchise.

The issue is disrespecting the individuals and the effort they put forth. In a way, it's even worse than booing somebody.

- Der Kaiser


Agreed, completely.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:41 AM ET
Did you folks listen to Howard's rant?

http://media.wgr550.com/a...es-it-over-tbn-column.htm

It's awesome and it's pretty spot on. Save your WGR jokes because personally I don't GAF. The rant is worth a listen.

- TheSabresTaco



That is fantastic.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 27 @ 9:44 AM ET
Did you folks listen to Howard's rant?

http://media.wgr550.com/a...es-it-over-tbn-column.htm

It's awesome and it's pretty spot on. Save your WGR jokes because personally I don't GAF. The rant is worth a listen.

- TheSabresTaco

Wow how can he say those things about Bucky Gleason. That guy is a sports genius and everything he writes is pure gold. How is he not on ESPN or some big broadcasting network. You know why cause he's a franking moron and it amazes me that that people even buy newspapers anymore. The buffalo news is full of dolts top to bottom.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:46 AM ET
Did you folks listen to Howard's rant?

http://media.wgr550.com/a...es-it-over-tbn-column.htm

It's awesome and it's pretty spot on. Save your WGR jokes because personally I don't GAF. The rant is worth a listen.

- TheSabresTaco

Sure was. I put a customer on hold during it
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:48 AM ET
Sure was. I put a customer on hold during it
- cabin


I just got done writing an e-mail to the director of HR in regards to an issue he's having with a request from the head honcho of this whole place...and now I'm about to avoid any and all calls/emails so I can listen to it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 9:51 AM ET
Wow how can he say those things about Bucky Gleason. That guy is a sports genius and everything he writes is pure gold. How is he not on ESPN or some big broadcasting network. You know why cause he's a franking moron and it amazes me that that people even buy newspapers anymore. The buffalo news is full of dolts top to bottom.
- Carubba-Kaleta


"The general manager should be doing what’s best for the team. If the team is going nowhere, you plan for the future. Regier talked about creating a new foundation starting with the Gaustad trade. Regier didn’t know how to properly guide his team to the bottom and, thus, increase its chances for the top pick overall." - Bucky Gleason, June 23, 2013

"For me, it has always been simple. Every team in every league in every game should be doing whatever it can to win every day. That’s what sports are about. It doesn’t matter whether it’s the first game or the last. If there’s a scoreboard involved, the objective is winning. That goes for management, coaches and players.

No exceptions." - Bucky Gleason, March 27, 2015
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
Best take I have seen so far, seeming to understand all of the perspectives. Front office is doing its job as it has to; players are enduring a lot of poop; and fans are reacting understandably:

Weber's frustration is entirely understandable: players don't tank, front offices do. Both the Sabres and Coyotes have moved every valuable asset, and they would have been criminal not to. Between that and the fans actively rooting for you to lose, it's been a poopty stretch for the players.

But it's extremely unfair to knock the fans. It's not wrong to root for their team to lose, not when they're functionally rooting for the Sabres to get better in the immediate future. This isn't aimless incompetence. This is tanking with a purpose: the best draft prizes in a decade are right there, the sort of players who could turn around the moribund fortunes of two hapless teams. And if you miss out on them? A few more years where meaningless late-March victories over fellow standings bottom-feeders are the best you can hope for.


http://deadspin.com/in-a-...er-sabres-loss-1694015501
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:53 AM ET
Did you folks listen to Howard's rant?

http://media.wgr550.com/a...es-it-over-tbn-column.htm

It's awesome and it's pretty spot on. Save your WGR jokes because personally I don't GAF. The rant is worth a listen.

- TheSabresTaco

I never had a problem with Howard or his work


it's the afternoon show I can't stand

stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:54 AM ET
"The general manager should be doing what’s best for the team. If the team is going nowhere, you plan for the future. Regier talked about creating a new foundation starting with the Gaustad trade. Regier didn’t know how to properly guide his team to the bottom and, thus, increase its chances for the top pick overall." - Bucky Gleason, June 23, 2013

"For me, it has always been simple. Every team in every league in every game should be doing whatever it can to win every day. That’s what sports are about. It doesn’t matter whether it’s the first game or the last. If there’s a scoreboard involved, the objective is winning. That goes for management, coaches and players.

No exceptions." - Bucky Gleason, March 27, 2015

- TheSabresTaco


That needs sent in to TBN to show how stupid they are for employee such a "writer"
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:55 AM ET
Again, I have no problem rotting for them to lose.

If you do it openly at the arena, you better expect the players to be pissed off about it. That is the ultimate slap in the face for them. You are supposed to have the advantage playing at home.

The feeling I'm getting is fans are aloud to do whatever they want, because they don't make millions. But the players need to shut up and deal because they do?


(Unless I completely missed your point) which is possible.

- ImThatGuy

Your pretty close. If you look at what the fans had to cheer about over the season..

Stanley cup ?..nope
Conference champion? ..nope
Division champion?.nope
Pres trophy?...
Playoffs?.. Ha
Allstar? .. had to be voted in by another country
Goals?.. nope , lowest of all the teams (so cheer for any goal)
30th place and the chance at 1st/2nd pick ?.. Good chance thats all we have this season.

Thats all these fans have to cheer about.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:02 AM ET
That needs sent in to TBN to show how stupid they are for employee such a "writer"
- stashu


I really don't like the sports writers for TBN. Sometimes they will pull up a cool statistic but I feel that their "expertise" is very limited.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:04 AM ET
Your pretty close. If you look at what the fans had to cheer about over the season..

Stanley cup ?..nope
Conference champion? ..nope
Division champion?.nope
Pres trophy?...
Playoffs?.. Ha
Allstar? .. had to be voted in by another country
Goals?.. nope , lowest of all the teams (so cheer for any goal)
30th place and the chance at 1st/2nd pick ?.. Good chance thats all we have this season.

Thats all these fans have to cheer about.

- cabin


Remember when ville Leino commented about how quiet the arena was....
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 27 @ 10:04 AM ET
Did you folks listen to Howard's rant?

http://media.wgr550.com/a...es-it-over-tbn-column.htm

It's awesome and it's pretty spot on. Save your WGR jokes because personally I don't GAF. The rant is worth a listen.

- TheSabresTaco

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:04 AM ET
I really don't like the sports writers for TBN. Sometimes they will pull up a cool statistic but I feel that their "expertise" is very limited.
- joshs

Sully

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:04 AM ET

- jochfr

best 6 minutes I had since the walking dead
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
best 6 minutes I had since the walking dead
- homiedclown

cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Mar 27 @ 10:10 AM ET

- jochfr

is that an owl ? Thought it was a zombie beaver for a second.
Sabres74-75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lake View, NY
Joined: 03.19.2015

Mar 27 @ 10:12 AM ET
That needs sent in to TBN to show how stupid they are for employee such a "writer"
- stashu

Apparently WGR brought up Bucky's column from 2013 and a link has been posted in the comments section for Bucky's column from today. There's some good reading in Bucky's comment section today. Obviously Bucky doesn't research his old columns to make sure there are no contradictions.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 27 @ 10:12 AM ET
is that an owl ? Thought it was a zombie beaver for a second.
- cabin

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 27 @ 10:13 AM ET
I was back in college in 2005 so I don't really recall the hype for Crosby and Ryan as it was happening. Clearly I had better things to do. My question to you guys who followed the process, was there similar hype surrounding both Crosby and Ryan, or was it Crosby or bust?
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 27 @ 10:14 AM ET
I was back in college in 2005 so I don't really recall the hype for Crosby and Ryan as it was happening. Clearly I had better things to do. My question to you guys who followed the process, was there similar hype surrounding both Crosby and Ryan, or was it Crosby or bust?
- TheSabresTaco


It was only Crosby.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Mar 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
is that an owl ? Thought it was a zombie beaver for a second.
- cabin

wrong thread for that
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