posted this last night but then i had to bail.

would you trade the flyers first rounder, assuming it fell between 9 and 12, for TJ Brodie from calgary?
- stayinthefnnet

Yes

What makes you qualified ?
- ob18

He has a pulse

Yes
- Just5

i think i would too.

posted this last night but then i had to bail.

would you trade the flyers first rounder, assuming it fell between 9 and 12, for TJ Brodie from calgary?
- stayinthefnnet

No.

He has a pulse
- Giroux_Is_God

Then I guess we are all qualified

No.
- ob18

well who could even debate such in depth analysis

Really looking forward to this years playoffs. It's a tight group of teams anything could happen

well who could even debate such in depth analysis
- stayinthefnnet

He's too busy watching the Crowsnest Pass Timberwolves v. the Rayside-Balfour Sabrecats game.

He's too busy watching the Crowsnest Pass Timberwolves v. the Rayside-Balfour Sabrecats game.
- 77rams

well thats no good when i have criminal procedure to distract myself from

Really looking forward to this years playoffs. It's a tight group of teams anything could happen
- Just5

I was just looking at all the teams who are locks to get into the playoffs. Even with Kimmo on Chicago, I can't think of a single team I want to win the Cup. For me, it's more like, who I don't want to win the Cup. I really, really don't want to see the Habs or Rangers win the Cup.

posted this last night but then i had to bail.

would you trade the flyers first rounder, assuming it fell between 9 and 12, for TJ Brodie from calgary?
- stayinthefnnet

Then watch his game promptly descend into the Steve Eminger abyss as a Flyer?



(Just so hard to decouple his performance from Giordano, whom he spends 75% of his TOI with... he's good, but not worth a future cost-controlled star player, IMO)

well who could even debate such in depth analysis
- stayinthefnnet

It's tough.

Nope, just like I wont define B Schenn at 23 and less games played than Couturier.


- opeth_pa

Making progress then. So then why is the potential of what Couturier could become, not a factor in considering to trade him ?

Fair enough.
I would take Simmonds and his proven level of performance, physical play and leadership over Couturier or B Schenn and that does take into account the future.
I see both Couturier and B Schenn as being borderline 2 but really solid 3 line players. I see Simmonds as already having proven he is more than that and I expect him to break 30 goals next season after coming very close the last 2.


- opeth_pa

This statement is contradictory. You said above, that you won't define Couturier at 22. This seems like you have. Simmonds has played 243 more games then Couturier has. That's close to 3 full seasons more. I don't see where the future is taken into account.

Agreed..22 and 23 is too young to say either player is anything but inconsistent.
- opeth_pa

Again, when looking at both players, potential, and whether they will reach that, is a factor.

Then watch his game promptly descend into the Steve Eminger abyss as a Flyer?



(Just so hard to decouple his performance from Giordano, whom he spends 75% of his TOI with... he's good, but not worth a future cost-controlled star player, IMO)
- Tomahawk

i agree it isnt a slam dunk offer. that would defeat the purpose.

althoughhhh i have to say, im a tad disappointed that you would automatically label the player nabbed with the draft pick as a "star"

nothing like a good bobby taylor whine about the officiating. goddamn, i miss gene hart.

althoughhhh i have to say, im a tad disappointed that you would automatically label the player nabbed with the draft pick as a "star"
- stayinthefnnet

1) Draft's probably gonna look an awful lot like 2003 when all is said and done. Nabbing a future All-Star in that 1st-round was like shooting fish in a barrel.

2) The Flyers aren't one of those teams that screw up too many 1st-rounders.

3) They don't have the space to absorb another ~$5M contract on the blueline w/o blowing something else up (or hoping for a Vinny/Umberger miracle)

I was just looking at all the teams who are locks to get into the playoffs. Even with Kimmo on Chicago, I can't think of a single team I want to win the Cup. For me, it's more like, who I don't want to win the Cup. I really, really don't want to see the Habs or Rangers win the Cup.
- SuperSchennBros

It's goIng to be awesome competition. All the teams are within 20 pts of each other

As I get older and the flyers seemingly get worse I can appreciate good hockey. To the point where I don't care who wins as long as it's not the pens

i agree it isnt a slam dunk offer. that would defeat the purpose.

althoughhhh i have to say, im a tad disappointed that you would automatically label the player nabbed with the draft pick as a "star"
- stayinthefnnet

You have to forgive him, he's blinded by his love for

1) Draft's probably gonna look an awful lot like 2003 when all is said and done. Nabbing a future All-Star in that 1st-round was like shooting fish in a barrel.

2) The Flyers aren't one of those teams that screw up too many 1st-rounders.

3) They don't have the space to absorb another ~$5M contract on the blueline w/o blowing something else up (or hoping for a Vinny/Umberger miracle)
- Tomahawk

all valid points.

i just think the ability to have the guy 4 years sooner would be tempting to those who want to strike while the iron is hot with giroux and jake, all while still having the player add in question still be young, retained, and cost controlled.

all valid points.

i just think the ability to have the guy 4 years sooner would be tempting to those who want to strike while the iron is hot with giroux and jake, all while still having the player add in question still be young, retained, and cost controlled.
- stayinthefnnet

Other moves would need to be made to make that happen & with the cap either staying the same or barely going up that becomes a tougher task.

Keeping the draft picks might be the smartest way to go for now.

Making progress then. So then why is the potential of what Couturier could become, not a factor in considering to trade him ?

- MJL

It is I just don't think as highly as either Couturier potential as you do. It's already clear you don't think much of Schenn's potential.

This statement is contradictory. You said above, that you won't define Couturier at 22. This seems like you have. Simmonds has played 243 more games then Couturier has. That's close to 3 full seasons more. I don't see where the future is taken into account.
- MJL

Again, I don't think Couturier or Schenn's offensive upside will ever equal Simmonds, no do I think their physical play will equal Simmonds. I prefer what Simmonds brings to what I think either Couturier or Schenn will bring. You dont, again hopefully both Couturier and Schenn have productive seasons next year and we can talk about how good it is to have two solid young players.

Again, when looking at both players, potential, and whether they will reach that, is a factor.
- MJL

As much as you keep pointing out potential I have not once said that I think Couturier or Schenn have hit their potential. You seem convinced that Schenn has and Couturier is some force waiting to break out assuming he gets perfect linemates.

I dont agree with either.

You have to forgive him, he's blinded by his love for


- ob18

im not on a face recognition with the prospects haha is that mitch marner?

and who was your lust target that caused you to pass?

im not on a face recognition with the prospects haha is that mitch marner?

and who was your lust target that caused you to pass?
- stayinthefnnet

Yes that is Mitch Marner.........I have a lot of prospects I'd like to see them select.

1) Draft's probably gonna look an awful lot like 2003 when all is said and done. Nabbing a future All-Star in that 1st-round was like shooting fish in a barrel.

2) The Flyers aren't one of those teams that screw up too many 1st-rounders.

3) They don't have the space to absorb another ~$5M contract on the blueline w/o blowing something else up (or hoping for a Vinny/Umberger miracle)
- Tomahawk

If the draft looks another remotely like the 2003 draft, we're in the driver seat to a pretty nice turn around with the 2 first round picks we have.

With the Flyers trading Coburn, that was already the start of a pretty big salary dump. With the said, dumping either one of Umberger and/or Lecavalier is huge. Definitely not impossible, even if you include the option of buyout.

I know the idea is the draft the best player available but with Morin, Sanhiem and Gostisbehere likely headed to the NHL, I'm really hoping they do what's best for the franichise and avoiding another possible conflict in terms of position. By that, I'm pointing at the Brayden Schenn situation. We don't know what to do with him.

im not on a face recognition with the prospects haha is that mitch marner?

and who was your lust target that caused you to pass?
- stayinthefnnet

What's wrong with you? You want to get banned? Give it to him OB