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MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Mar 31 @ 3:22 PM ET
I missed it again...can you say it one more time
- TPC

He's been solid in Hartford!
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:30 PM ET
He's been solid in Hartford!
- MatzCT

BUST!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 31 @ 3:32 PM ET
BUST!
- B2B76


B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:37 PM ET

- jimbro83

I CAN'T believe a convicted felon & a known alcoholic could make a beer commercial together...only in America!
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Mar 31 @ 3:37 PM ET
BUST!
- B2B76

MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Mar 31 @ 3:43 PM ET
BUST!
- B2B76

As a 1st rounder, sure. You can't justify him being drafted ahead of some other players. You just can't, but that's not his fault is it?

He's excelling at being a top pairing guy in the minors, he's 22 and brings tools you can not teach or find easily. Which still makes him an asset. Personally I don't have much doubt he'll make it as a 5-6 d-man at the least, someone that brings some nasty play and who can actually sticks up for teammates.

Lets not forget we have a righty opening at the end of next season with Boyle leaving, and maybe sooner if we move him or injuries. A cheaper contract could even help his cause.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Mar 31 @ 3:46 PM ET
As a 1st rounder, sure. You can't justify him being drafted ahead of some other players. You just can't, but that's not his fault is it?

He's excelling at being a top pairing guy in the minors, he's 22 and brings tools you can not teach or find easily. Which still makes him an asset. Personally I don't have much doubt he'll make it as a 5-6 d-man at the least, someone that brings some nasty play and who can actually sticks up for teammates.

Lets not forget we have a righty opening at the end of next season with Boyle leaving, and maybe sooner if we move him or injuries. A cheaper contract could even help his cause.

- MatzCT

I think he can turn into a Kevin Klein by the time he hits his prime in terms of impact. Not exactly a game breaker but a solid guy who plays to his strengths and can eat up 18 minutes a night quietly and effectively.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 31 @ 3:46 PM ET

- 21peter



Sorry to tell you this peter but your posting privileges have now been revoked for becoming a season ticket holder. Please see Jan at the front desk and return your Ranger fan credentials.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Mar 31 @ 3:48 PM ET
As a 1st rounder, sure. You can't justify him being drafted ahead of some other players. You just can't, but that's not his fault is it?

He's excelling at being a top pairing guy in the minors, he's 22 and brings tools you can not teach or find easily. Which still makes him an asset. Personally I don't have much doubt he'll make it as a 5-6 d-man at the least, someone that brings some nasty play and who can actually sticks up for teammates.

Lets not forget we have a righty opening at the end of next season with Boyle leaving, and maybe sooner if we move him or injuries. A cheaper contract could even help his cause.

- MatzCT


The problem is that Boyle's contract is not up until next season, and if McIlrath doesn't make the big club out of camp next September than he will be subject to waivers. So, basically, barring trade, the Rangers will have to place him on the roster next year (probably as a 7th defensemen) or lose him for nothing.

When viewed in that light, whether he can eventually be a 5th or 6th defensemen for someone down the line, he isn't much of an asset for the New York Rangers, in that they either trade him for a middling pick this summer (at best), put him on the team as a 7th defensemen next fall, or expose him to waivers, which he is highly unlikely to pass through.

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Mar 31 @ 3:50 PM ET
Sorry to tell you this peter but your posting privileges have now been revoked for becoming a season ticket holder. Please see Jan at the front desk and return your Ranger fan credentials.
- mdw7413

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
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Mar 31 @ 3:52 PM ET

- 21peter





I would have went with the classic...


TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:52 PM ET

- 21peter

is he crying during sex?
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 31 @ 3:57 PM ET
is he crying during sex?
- TPC



You don't?
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 3:58 PM ET
You don't?
- mdw7413

Depends what song is playing in the background
MatzCT
New York Rangers
Location: CO
Joined: 08.04.2009

Mar 31 @ 3:59 PM ET
The problem is that Boyle's contract is not up until next season, and if McIlrath doesn't make the big club out of camp next September than he will be subject to waivers. So, basically, barring trade, the Rangers will have to place him on the roster next year (probably as a 7th defensemen) or lose him for nothing.

When viewed in that light, whether he can eventually be a 5th or 6th defensemen for someone down the line, he isn't much of an asset for the New York Rangers, in that they either trade him for a middling pick this summer (at best), put him on the team as a 7th defensemen next fall, or expose him to waivers, which he is highly unlikely to pass through.

- Pete V

McIlrath is an RFA this summer, my guess is he'll be resgined at a cheaper hit for 2 years. He'll either make it as a 7th d at the least or spend another year in Hartford. The waiver wire loss is a possiblity they'll have to deal with. Boyle will be 39 next season and it wouldn't surprise me if he was moved regardless of the no movement clause. Expecting him to play 82 games is probably not realistic either. I'm not sure we can afford $25+ million on 6 dmen and still have to sign 5 forwards?
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:00 PM ET
Would be nice to still have Raffy Diaz as an option
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 31 @ 4:03 PM ET
Depends what song is playing in the background
- TPC



John Mayer?
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Mar 31 @ 4:09 PM ET
John Mayer?
- mdw7413

TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 31 @ 4:12 PM ET
John Mayer?
- mdw7413

frank you lol....i hate that shyt
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:20 PM ET
McIlrath is an RFA this summer, my guess is he'll be resgined at a cheaper hit for 2 years. He'll either make it as a 7th d at the least or spend another year in Hartford. The waiver wire loss is a possiblity they'll have to deal with. Boyle will be 39 next season and it wouldn't surprise me if he was moved regardless of the no movement clause. Expecting him to play 82 games is probably not realistic either. I'm not sure we can afford $25+ million on 6 dmen and still have to sign 5 forwards?
- MatzCT


On your last point, all six of the Rangers defensemen are signed through next year, and Boyle has a not trade clause, so short of Boyle waiving, I don't see the Rangers shedding any salary on defense next year, because none of the remaining five are likely to get traded.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:22 PM ET
On your last point, all six of the Rangers defensemen are signed through next year, and Boyle has a not trade clause, so short of Boyle waiving, I don't see the Rangers shedding any salary on defense next year, because none of the remaining five are likely to get traded.
- Pete V

They are going to trade him. If he is coming along as is suggested they may get some value back. The thing I've read time and time again is he doesn't skate well enough to AV's liking, maybe his skating suits another coach better.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:24 PM ET
McIlrath is an RFA this summer, my guess is he'll be resgined at a cheaper hit for 2 years. He'll either make it as a 7th d at the least or spend another year in Hartford. The waiver wire loss is a possiblity they'll have to deal with. Boyle will be 39 next season and it wouldn't surprise me if he was moved regardless of the no movement clause. Expecting him to play 82 games is probably not realistic either. I'm not sure we can afford $25+ million on 6 dmen and still have to sign 5 forwards?
- MatzCT

In a brief tweet exchange, Carp made the suggestion to convert him to a forward and let him work the boards and forecheck. Thoughts?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:25 PM ET
They are going to trade him. If he is coming along as is suggested they may get some value back. The thing I've read time and time again is he doesn't skate well enough to AV's liking, maybe his skating suits another coach better.
- Blueshirts4ever


The Rangers got a 2nd round pick for Bobby Sanguenetti. Maybe they can get a similar return for McIlrath if he is unlikely to be in the Rangers near term plans.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Mar 31 @ 4:25 PM ET
In a brief tweet exchange, Carp made the suggestion to convert him to a forward and let him work the boards and forecheck. Thoughts?
- Blueshirts4ever


I actually said the same thing a few weeks back. Try to convert him to a fourth line winger, so Sather doesn't feel the need to overspend every year on a fourth line tough guy.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 31 @ 4:28 PM ET
The Rangers got a 2nd round pick for Bobby Sanguenetti. Maybe they can get a similar return for McIlrath if he is unlikely to be in the Rangers near term plans.
- Pete V


a 2nd and a 6th, the 6th turned out to be Jesper Fast
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