LeftCoaster
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Location: Duck City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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The reason why dead last is so important is it guarantees you McDavid or Eichel. There is no chance the NHL lottery shenanigans ruins it for you. - Feds91Stammer
Yes obviously last is best for the Yotes, but, second last will still get you a great player. I hope the Coyotes win the lottery. |
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SJFreez19
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Bay Area, CA Joined: 09.30.2009
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please lose the next 2 games. thanks |
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LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Duck City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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So you are saying, last place is due... - ImThatGuy
Hopefully not |
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Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice. Joined: 06.21.2013
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please lose the next 2 games. thanks - SJFreez19
I will say the same to you |
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LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Duck City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Buffalo needs to go on a little winning streak here with Cody Hodgson getting a few hat-tricks |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I will say the same to you - Herzeleid
Might wanna change your location |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Yes obviously last is best for the Yotes, but, second last will still get you a great player. I hope the Coyotes win the lottery. - LeftCoaster
Any player in the 1st round should be a good player especially in the top 10. It's all about the fit and the development. |
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Some people don't realize you're still rooting for your team, just longer-term. - IceColdBeer
Exactly. |
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LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Duck City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Any player in the 1st round should be a good player especially in the top 10. It's all about the fit and the development. - Feds91Stammer
Yup - a lot of good young center prospects out there. |
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Herzeleid
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Victor Hedman and Kucherov can go f themselves. Twice. Joined: 06.21.2013
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Any player in the 1st round should be a good player especially in the top 10. It's all about the fit and the development. - Feds91Stammer
But not every one is a generational talent.
(but I'm still mad at him ) |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Yup - a lot of good young center prospects out there. - LeftCoaster
Patience is key too.
Patric Hornqvist went freaking 230th overall. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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But not every one is a generational talent.
(but I'm still mad at him ) - Herzeleid
A guy drafted top 3 should be able to be a franchise changing player but still he has to be the right fit. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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A guy drafted top 3 should be able to be a franchise changing player but still he has to be the right fit. - Feds91Stammer
Depends on the draft year, some draft classes are just flat out better and the top 10/15 is pretty good outside of a couple of busts and then in other classes you get a bust seemingly for every other pick made. |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Exactly. - James_Tanner
No difference than last couple games of the season for a playoff team in a close race. Bet it goes through their heads , win and we play the top seed and no chance of winning , Lose and we play so and so and move a better chance of going to the 2nd round. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Depends on the draft year, some draft classes are just flat out better and the top 10/15 is pretty good outside of a couple of busts and then in other classes you get a bust seemingly for every other pick made. - Nucker101
Yes but that's why patience in development and the fit is so important. If you pick a guy that fits the teams system and you develop them properly that leaves only a few reasons for them to be busts:
1. Peaked in HS
2. Injury
3. European didn't translate game to smaller ice
4. Unreal expectations (it's okay if a guy only develops into a middle 6 forward or a bottom 4 defenseman) |
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ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Yes but that's why patience in development and the fit is so important. If you pick a guy that fits the teams system and you develop them properly that leaves only a few reasons for them to be busts:
1. Peaked in HS
2. Injury
3. European didn't translate game to smaller ice
4. Unreal expectations (it's okay if a guy only develops into a middle 6 forward or a bottom 4 defenseman) - Feds91Stammer
I think there's tons of reasons a guy could miss, but I think the one that I would put ahead of all four on your list combined is just plain psychology.
Making the NHL is one thing, and exceedingly rare, but I'd be willing to bet that for every player who makes it, there are at least two with the talent to do so that can't handle the stress, grind, pressure, dedication etc of the big leagues.
Just for example, if you're drafted in the first couple rounds, the odds are good that you were the best player on every team you ever played on (or at worst, 3rd or 4th best by the time you're playing junior). Then, suddenly, once you go to the NHL - or even the AHL - you're suddenly not even in the conversation and I think that can be really hard for some guys.
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SteveJ123
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Tedenby over Carlson every single time - David Conte, NJ Joined: 08.22.2014
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So close to finishing last. it's like you almost got the job done, but you'll take it.
I hope arizona wins the lotto, screw buffalo i don't want them getting mcdavid, but its not like its awful to get eichel or something
In a perfect world the devils win |
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SolGoode
Calgary Flames |
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Location: Calgary, AB Joined: 09.04.2013
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It's pretty amusing to see that so many people assume finishing last will guarantee getting McDavid. I honestly think Phoenix is going to win the lottery either way. |
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It's pretty amusing to see that so many people assume finishing last will guarantee getting McDavid. I honestly think Phoenix is going to win the lottery either way. - SolGoode
I havnt read one person assume that. Where you getting that from? |
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LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: Duck City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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It's pretty amusing to see that so many people assume finishing last will guarantee getting McDavid. I honestly think Phoenix is going to win the lottery either way. - SolGoode
80% chance someone else wins is not great odds, I hope McDavid goes to the Coyotes |
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rmiethaner
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 10.04.2006
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The difference is Buffalo had no intent of being a good team this year while Arizona, Edmonton, and Toronto all had playoff aspirations. - Feds91Stammer
While I agree with this in general, if you look at total points last season vs. this season for those four teams, Buffalo is the only one that has a chance to improve this year. In fact, they already matched last seasons total points.
Arizona and Toronto are twenty points less.
Buffalo finish last, last year and nobody said a word.
It is only a big deal now because of who is in the draft. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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burner087
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Orlando, FL Joined: 01.18.2008
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Less than a toss up though because of schedule strength and the tie-breaker. If Arizona wins one game it's like 99% Buffalo wins. But right now, it's still probably really highly in Buffalo's favor just because of the odds that they'd win 4 of 7 AND lose one in OT are just so unlikely. - James_Tanner
Its Buffalo. They usually only play hard when the games are meaningless. |
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