I'd kick the tires on thornton
- homiedclown

i think that is as far as i would go with thornton.. kick him..

that guy has yet to be on a team that has playoff success.. for as long as it has been and as good as he is, i just think we should find a better place to spend money

i've ran that thing 5 times, and 3/5 times the Flyers won.
(frank)in draft simulator messin with my mind
- FLYERSROCK!

Pfft, some here have a minimum 20x the commitment to this thing, which obviously will impact how the drawing actually goes.

I'd kick the tires on thornton
- homiedclown

IMO WPG should

I don't think he does. He's the best player of this generation and it's not really close.

The era's are different. He would have been a 150 point player in the early 80's.
- sbroads24

He's not even in the top ten of Forwards of all time.

He's not even in the top ten of Forwards of all time.
- dadeadhead

Not yet I agree. But he has 5-6 years of being a top producer in this league still to come (barring injury)

And if you see this:



Take cover, it's probably a drive-by hatting.
- Herzeleid

Perrault and Dom are the only two even close.

Mogilny and Lafontaine were never considered the best player in the game at any point
- sbroads24

Perrault in season leading points

Points
1974-75 NHL 96 (9)
1975-76 NHL 113 (3)
1976-77 NHL 95 (5)
1977-78 NHL 89 (8)
1979-80 NHL 106 (4)

He was a great player, but Crosby and Hasek are/were special players
If that makes any sense

Not yet I agree. But he has 5-6 years of being a top producer in this league still to come (barring injury)
- sbroads24

Apparently he is already becoming "Has-been"

i think that is as far as i would go with thornton.. kick him..

that guy has yet to be on a team that has playoff success.. for as long as it has been and as good as he is, i just think we should find a better place to spend money
- IndianaSabresFan

thornton 28 points in last 33 playoff games
crosby 21 points in last 33 playoff games


sabres 0 playoff series wins in 8 seasons

thornton 28 points in last 33 playoff games
crosby 21 points in last 33 playoff games


sabres 0 playoff series wins in 8 seasons
- homiedclown

If Crosby is approaching "Has-been" status with 81 points. what is Jumbo Joe at 35 years old and only 64 points?

He's not even in the top ten of Forwards of all time.
- dadeadhead

http://www.quanthockey.co...nts-per-game-leaders.html

5th all time in points per game

4th if you take that d man off the list

Not yet I agree. But he has 5-6 years of being a top producer in this league still to come (barring injury)
- sbroads24

Even then he has a tough hill to climb.

He'll never be the best player of all time on his own team.

If Crosby is approaching "Has-been" status with 81 points. what is Jumbo Joe at 35 years old and only 64 points?
- ImThatGuy

a drop of piss in the bucket compared to what crosby would cost the sabres

Even then he has a tough hill to climb.

He'll never be the best player of all time on his own team.
- dadeadhead

Is Kent Nilsson the best hockey player that nobody under the age of 33 has ever heard of?

Perrault in season leading points

Points
1974-75 NHL 96 (9)
1975-76 NHL 113 (3)
1976-77 NHL 95 (5)
1977-78 NHL 89 (8)
1979-80 NHL 106 (4)

He was a great player, but Crosby and Hasek are/were special players
If that makes any sense
- homiedclown

I agree 100%. Perrault was always pretty mediocre (From what I was told) in the post-season. He never dominated (again from what I was told)

http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/records/nhl-players-all-time-points-per-game-leaders.html

5th all time in points per game

4th if you take that d man off the list
- homiedclown

Gretzky
Mario
Messier
Howe
Yzerman
Federov
Bossy
Jagr
Trottier
Lafleur
Forsberg
Bure
Both Hulls


In no order just to name a few. Add in Orr, Bourque, Lidstrom, Hasek, Brodeur, Roy, Sawchuk and he's not even top 20.

Gretzky
Mario
Messier
Howe
Yzerman
Federov
Bossy
Jagr
Trottier
Lafleur
Forsberg
Bure
Both Hulls


In no order just to name a few. Add in Orr, Bourque, Lidstrom, Hasek, Brodeur, Roy, Sawchuk and he's not even top 20.
- dadeadhead

I am not disagreeing with you

a drop of piss in the bucket compared to what crosby would cost the sabres
- homiedclown

No doubt he would cost less, but the response that people gave me when i suggested Crosby were,

Has-been
Cant score over 100 points
Doesn't fit the rebuild timeline.

Is Kent Nilsson the best hockey player that nobody under the age of 33 has ever heard of?
- homiedclown

Hakan Loob is up there.

I am not disagreeing with you
- homiedclown

Hell add Pronger and Nieds too

No doubt he would cost less, but the response that people gave me when i suggested Crosby were,

Has-been
Cant score over 100 points
Doesn't fit the rebuild timeline.
- ImThatGuy

it's the price you pay

a team like the bolts or islanders could make that trade and compete right away

the sabres cant

a drop of piss in the bucket compared to what crosby would cost the sabres
- homiedclown

No doubt he would cost less, but the response that people gave me when i suggested Crosby were,

Has-been
Cant score over 100 points
Doesn't fit the rebuild timeline.
- ImThatGuy

I'd take Jumbo Joe 10 of 10 times over Crosby when you factor in cost to acquire.

He'd cost a couple of picks and prospects at this point.

He'd never waive though.

Hell add Pronger and Nieds too
- dadeadhead

Based on...?

Gretzky
Mario
Messier
Howe
Yzerman
Federov
Bossy
Jagr
Trottier
Lafleur
Forsberg
Bure
Both Hulls


In no order just to name a few. Add in Orr, Bourque, Lidstrom, Hasek, Brodeur, Roy, Sawchuk and he's not even top 20.
- dadeadhead

Crosby is at a major disadvantage in where the NHL cant get out of its own way to increase scoring. Same with every player in this generation.