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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 8 @ 9:51 AM ET
What a (frank)ing season:

*Voracek in the art Ross race

*giroux not far behind

*mason playing lights out

*Mark Streit's second assist of the game gave him 50 points on the 2014-15 season; the last Flyers defenseman to reach that milestone was Chris Pronger in 2009-10.

*two wins from the most wins at home since 2000-2001

*MISS THE PLAYOFFS

- funmaster18



its crazy, reading your list you would think this team is heading into the playoffs
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 8 @ 9:54 AM ET
its crazy, reading your list you would think this team is heading into the playoffs
- nastyflyergirl


Stupid road games.
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

Apr 8 @ 9:56 AM ET
Pretty much, might be nice to draft a natural LW with skill once in a while

- BiggE


It might take a couple more years in the A, but I think Leier could be a decent depth scoring LW in the NHL. Probably won't blossom in to top end talent, but I think he was a steal in the 4th rd.
Ondrej F
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Prague
Joined: 02.17.2010

Apr 8 @ 10:00 AM ET
Stupid road games.
- wolfhounds

Stupid road penalty killing..
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 8 @ 10:01 AM ET
Re: Giroux shootouts. I think its the wrists. The crazy stick work he displayed during his first two seasons is almost gone entirely. The majority of his goals now seem to come from snipe jobs in the slot. You just don't see him dekeing guys out their pads the way he used to. Though I'm sure a good deal of it comes down to guys knowing how to defend against him now as well.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
Stupid road penalty killing..
- Ondrej F

Stupid sexy Flanders.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
The Pens collapse and cap/player mismanagement is pretty amazing. Seems a bit early for that franchise to be on the downswing, but they've got some serious problems to address. What a shame.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
I really wish I knew what the answer was. I do not think any rules are going to be changed. The shootout has been in place now 9 years? They don't seem in any hurry to change anything with it.

They will change other poop that makes zero sense. Why aren't the playoffs 1-8 seeds based on points? Answer: Because it's simple, and makes a ton of sense. So they must over think things and try and re-invent the wheel.

- PLindbergh31


Rank them 1-16 like they did in the good old days. F travel costs.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 8 @ 10:05 AM ET
Phillysportsguy has been calling for B Schenn to be moved to right wing all year, good call!
- BiggE


Thank you.

I will be giving my state of the team address at years end. I plan on seeing all of you in attendance
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:06 AM ET
Re: Giroux shootouts. I think its the wrists. The crazy stick work he displayed during his first two seasons is almost gone entirely. The majority of his goals now seem to come from snipe jobs in the slot. You just don't see him dekeing guys out their pads the way he used to. Though I'm sure a good deal of it comes down to guys knowing how to defend against him now as well.
- hereticpride


And golf injuries
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 8 @ 10:06 AM ET
The Pens collapse and cap/player mismanagement is pretty amazing. Seems a bit early for that franchise to be on the downswing, but they've got some serious problems to address. What a shame.
- wolfhounds

Not to mention the constant injuries with that team.

They really need to move Malkin for a haul to get the assets needed to right the ship. I certainly won't complain if they keep fooling themselves though.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 8 @ 10:06 AM ET
The Flyers already have an over abundance of grinder types. Stewart or Kassian aren't the kind of players this team needs in my opinion. They need to add some speed and quickness to the lineup.
- MJL

Who are the grinders that we've overloaded on? I consider Stewart a Power Forward and I consider Kassian a tall young player with that potential but a grinder if nothing more.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 8 @ 10:07 AM ET
Just don't understand why Giroux blows on shootouts. Maybe it's an all round confidence issue with this team. A guy like Oshie has ice in his veins and goes in there to finish the job
- 3flyerkids


Do you think his lack in shootouts will affect his trade value?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:07 AM ET
Isn't Giroux something like 1-12 in shootouts this year? With the type of skill he there is no reason he should be that bad. I really don't understand it. I think it's def more of an issue with the shooters. I would think the Flyers save % in shootouts would be around league average this year, their shooting % has to be in the bottom 3.
- PLindbergh31



I don't get it. Previously he was the one guy that was money showing some sweet moves. it just blows my mind he was so horrid this year. Simmonds was terrible at it previously and he was one guy that was decent. Its like they switched bodies
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:10 AM ET
Brayden Schenn can't help himself but score now. There's a couple of ways to look at it:

Glass half full: He's turning the corner and getting more offensive confidence that he'll carry into next year.

Glass half empty: He's been great ever since the games became meaningless.

Personally, I think the position change has helped. I think a new coach might help.

- johndewar



Maybe its a case where we are finally seeing a healthy Read and the chemistry of 24-14-10 is really showing. I am happy with the makeup of the top 2 lines right now with 12-28-93 and 24-14-10. I really wish they could get out from under 18 and 40 stating the obvious
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 10:10 AM ET
oh, but i do. you're the only pens fan i actually like.
- hammarby31


You like even a single pens fan
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
18 OT/SO losses. EIGHTEEEN. there's your missed playoffs right there, spicoli.
- hammarby31


Had they gotten some of those points, I still don't think they go very far in the playoffs, but it would be much more exciting to talk about than draft position.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
I don't get it. Previously he was the one guy that was money showing some sweet moves. it just blows my mind he was so horrid this year. Simmonds was terrible at it previously and he was one guy that was decent. Its like they switched bodies
- nastyflyergirl

Sometimes people over think in the shootout. I think you saw a lot of that from G this year. I have no doubt he will be better next year.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 8 @ 10:11 AM ET
Who are the grinders that we've overloaded on? I consider Stewart a Power Forward and I consider Kassian a tall young player with that potential but a grinder if nothing more.
- SuperSchennBros

I just don't consider either of those guys to be all that better than Schenn or Raffl. Sure, Raffl is far from proven but right now you're getting too good of a bang for you buck with him. And if we're moving Schenn for another LW then I'm with MJL on this one. It needs to be a playmaker.
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Apr 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
The Pens collapse and cap/player mismanagement is pretty amazing. Seems a bit early for that franchise to be on the downswing, but they've got some serious problems to address. What a shame.
- wolfhounds


Nothing makes me happier after watching this flyers season
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:13 AM ET
I'm completely indifferent to their "winning" at this point, except that Pitt game on Sunday which was pretty sweet, the closest thing to the playoffs in 2015. Turning it on at the end, again, when there's no pressure, the season is over and the games are meaningless (to the Flyers) does nothing for me. Luckily, it seems like we'll get a solid player with either the #7 or #8 pick, so that works.
- wolfhounds


Logically speaking I want the best shot at McDavid and the best pick possible but the fan in me watching the games can't help but root for the players to do well and win.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:14 AM ET
Stupid road games.
- wolfhounds



and shootouts
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 8 @ 10:14 AM ET
Maybe its a case where we are finally seeing a healthy Read and the chemistry of 24-14-10 is really showing. I am happy with the makeup of the top 2 lines right now with 12-28-93 and 24-14-10. I really wish they could get out from under 18 and 40 stating the obvious
- nastyflyergirl

RJ probably gets bought out and we deal with the smaller cap hit. Vinny, if he is willing to do the one a d done thing with another team, I think that trade goes down. We probably have throw something in(ala the Canes with Alt) but I think it will be worth it.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
It might take a couple more years in the A, but I think Leier could be a decent depth scoring LW in the NHL. Probably won't blossom in to top end talent, but I think he was a steal in the 4th rd.
- Coleman



be really nice to see Leier, Laughton and Cousins rounding out the bottom 6 in some capacity
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 8 @ 10:15 AM ET
its crazy, reading your list you would think this team is heading into the playoffs
- nastyflyergirl


It's mind boggling how hit or miss this team has been. Great at home, terrible on the road. Great against top teams, terrible against bottom feeders. It doesn't make any sense!
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