LA would move out other parts and make Toffoli fit. Jones I could see and isn't a bad idea.
- sbroads24

That's the point. They probably choose to keep Toffoli, but by offer sheeting both, you make them have to give up Jones.

I'd prefer neither. The cost to get them would probably be higher than I would be willing to give up.
- thatsapickle

Not sure what it would take, but both players have had a couple "off" seasons, Brown especially. And both carry big cap #s on teams that desperately need relief.
I'm thinking some thing like a 2nd for Brown, tops
And maybe the same for Marchand, plus a prospect or another pick
I think they'll both be fairly discounted
Unless u really just don't like the players, then the cost doesn't even matter

That's the point. They probably choose to keep Toffoli, but by offer sheeting both, you make them have to give up Jones.
- Pierceme69

Toffoli and Jones both have to sign the offer first. I'd imagine other teams might be interested in trading for Jones as well before he hits FA. He's probably one of the better goalies that could be available

I'd rather do something Yost suggested. Offer sheet Toffoli at $5.5 and Martin Jones at $3.5. The pick compensation doesn't overlap so they could do it. LA doesn't have the money to match both offers. So the Sabres either get a top-6 winger or a potential franchise goalie.
- Pierceme69

In that case, LA definitely keeps Tofolli over their backup goalie...
But do we want Jones as our "franchise" goalie?
Look at how Scrivens was after he left? Bernier is the real deal, but idk yet if Jones is BC every LA goalie looks good with that team in front of them.
There's other young goalies out there I'd prefer
Allen, Vasilevskiy, Gibson... And even Bernier

Toffoli and Jones both have to sign the offer first. I'd imagine other teams might be interested in trading for Jones as well before he hits FA. He's probably one of the better goalies that could be available
- sbroads24

They both sign. Toffoli makes $716K right now. He's signing for $5.5 million. Jones make $550,000. He's signing too for $3.5 million.

Brown's body is wearing down. He's a 3rd liner at best and will continue his downward trend.

Marchand will be a completely different player without Chara and Lucic scaring people into leaving him alone.
- muffin_man

I can see your point on Brown, BC his production is down 2yrs in a row now, but whenever I watch the Kings he still looks good to me. Not sure what the issue is out there?
But I'd rather him on the 3rd line than Gionta. And brown has been the captain of a couple Cup winning teams recently. I think the guys might also relate to him better than Gionta BC the age difference is much closer, and he's won those Cups so much more recently.

U could be right about Marchand, but we don't need a "Lucic" to "protect" him, do we?
We've got a handful of guys that will cover our talented players backs.
And if that's something you're worried about,
Then Brown (or someone like that) would be a good addition for that reason as well

They both sign. Toffoli makes $716K right now. He's signing for $5.5 million. Jones make $550,000. He's signing too for $3.5 million.
- Pierceme69

I know, but there are 28 other teams that could offer them a contract.

A team that is already very competitive could offer Toffoli a bigger deal and afford to give up 2 late 1sts as compensation

I know, but there are 28 other teams that could offer them a contract.

A team that is already very competitive could offer Toffoli a bigger deal and afford to give up 2 late 1sts as compensation
- sbroads24

Most teams don't offer sheet RFAs. The Sabres are in a unique situation. Murray seems like the kind of guy that would stick it to a team that is up against the cap for a player he covets.

I wouldn't even do Brown for Hodgson right now. That contract is too long
- sbroads24

Really? I thought it was like 4 more years?

Reinhart has been assigned to Rochester for the end of the season.

Most teams don't offer sheet RFAs. The Sabres are in a unique situation. Murray seems like the kind of guy that would stick it to a team that is up against the cap for a player he covets.
- Pierceme69

I think he's planning on doing that, but I think it will be a Boychuk/Leddy type of move.

I like the idea in theory, I just think it's sort of a pipedream that they get them both to sign an offer sheet, and get LA to let one walk for small compensation.

Hell, they might want Jones long term and trade Quick down the road

Really? I thought it was like 4 more years?
- jdfitz77

For 1.3 mil more than Hodgson though too.

I think he's planning on doing that, but I think it will be a Boychuk/Leddy type of move.

I like the idea in theory, I just think it's sort of a pipedream that they get them both to sign an offer sheet, and get LA to let one walk for small compensation.

Hell, they might want Jones long term and trade Quick down the road
- sbroads24

Why is it a pipedream that both players would want to sign for huge raises?

I think he's planning on doing that, but I think it will be a Boychuk/Leddy type of move.

I like the idea in theory, I just think it's sort of a pipedream that they get them both to sign an offer sheet, and get LA to let one walk for small compensation.

Hell, they might want Jones long term and trade Quick down the road
- sbroads24

Who's our boychuk/leddy this year?

Hjalmarsson/Hagelin?

If the Sabres don't make 30th place my bookie is taking my last born child. I'm kinda vested.

Why is it a pipedream that both players would want to sign for huge raises?
- Pierceme69

Are they not getting raises anyways?

Who's our boychuk/leddy this year?

Hjalmarsson/Hagelin?
- Sabresfan-365

No idea. I think someone like Oshie could be had. He's having a really good year and will only be 28 I think. The Blues have Schwartz and Tarasenko to resign

Hagelin would be nice

No idea. I think someone like Oshie could be had. He's having a really good year and will only be 28 I think. The Blues have Schwartz and Tarasenko to resign

Hagelin would be nice
- sbroads24

Oshie would be a nice add, Flyers could be a team Murray targets as well.

Oshie would be a nice add, Flyers could be a team Murray targets as well.
- Sabresfan-365

Oshie fits the mold here too IMO. Solid two way player and he can skate well.

Kane/Girgensons/Oshie
Moulson/Eichel/Ennis
Foligno/Reinhart/Larsson

Oshie fits the mold here too IMO. Solid two way player and he can skate well.

Kane/Girgensons/Oshie
Moulson/Eichel/Ennis
Foligno/Reinhart/Larsson
- sbroads24

That's a (potentially) very good top 9

That's a (potentially) very good top 9
- Sabresfan-365

I wouldn't give up a ton though. I'm not a fan of trading many more picks/prospects

Are they not getting raises anyways?
- sbroads24

Not as huge from LA. They don't have the cap space. Which is why you offer sheet both players at the same time and force them to choose one.

Not as huge from LA. They don't have the cap space. Which is why you offer sheet both players at the same time and force them to choose one.
- Pierceme69

That actually is a great freaking idea!

I wouldn't give up a ton though. I'm not a fan of trading many more picks/prospects
- sbroads24

That's the trick though, exploiting a team that's so desperate/tight against the cap that you can get a guy like oshie without having to give up any more of your blue chippers.

Philly, St louis, Chicago, NYR are the teams id look at.


I'd be okay with trading prospects picks if its like the Fasching trade or a 1 for 1. But I don't think they'll do any package deals any time soon unless something unusual happens and the right guy becomes available.

That actually is a great freaking idea!

- Sabresfan88

Yost floated this idea on WGR a few weeks ago.