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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 8 @ 3:49 PM ET
Bill,

Could this be the year where maybe you move this years two 1st and 2016 1st for to get to number 2? Is that too much if it allowed to get Eichel, assuming number 1 takes McDavid.

- J35Bacher


But if they lose the lottery Buffalo or Arizona really need Eichel as a 1C to build around. I doubt they'd be interested. Maybe if you swapped a position player for the 2016 1st since I doubt that would be a lottery pick if the Flyers had Eichel for 15-16.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Apr 8 @ 3:51 PM ET
Bill,

Could this be the year where maybe you move this years two 1st and 2016 1st for to get to number 2? Is that too much if it allowed to get Eichel, assuming number 1 takes McDavid.

- J35Bacher


As much as I'd be happy they'd have Eichel, I really don't think I'd do that... you're giving up three potentially good players for one. That's throwing all of your eggs into one basket. I'd rather them have 3 possibly equal, or maybe even better players than one. If two of the 3 turn out to be busts, and one matches Eichel's production, you still "win". If all 3 turn out to be solid, you still win.

It's just awful risky, is all I'm saying.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Apr 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
So that's Mason's girl huh.

wow................. just wow
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 8 @ 3:57 PM ET
Mighty steep, but intriguing.
- bmeltzer



I know it's steep. My thinking is this:

If Eichel and McDavid are that good then you have a potential franchise player. Also if they make your team better, your likely to have later round picks.

Also I know you want picks to build around but picks as is are hit and miss. This might be the chance to get a almost sure thing as there is.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 8 @ 4:00 PM ET
As much as I'd be happy they'd have Eichel, I really don't think I'd do that... you're giving up three potentially good players for one. That's throwing all of your eggs into one basket. I'd rather them have 3 possibly equal, or maybe even better players than one. If two of the 3 turn out to be busts, and one matches Eichel's production, you still "win". If all 3 turn out to be solid, you still win.

It's just awful risky, is all I'm saying.

- WarriorHockey21


I know it's risky. But it also has the chance to turn the franchise around. You can also use other roster players to get other assets to reshape the team.

Also if Eichel and McDavid turn out to be the franchise players they are reported to be, then they should also to be able to make players around them better.

I also wouldn't be against using the two 1st rounders to get Strome or maybe a 1st and Simmonds to move up.
WarriorHockey21
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.09.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:02 PM ET
I know it's risky. But it also has the chance to turn the franchise around. You can also use other roster players to get other assets to reshape the team.

Also if Eichel and McDavid turn out to be the franchise players they are reported to be, then they should also to be able to make players around them better.

I also wouldn't be against using the two 1st rounders to get Strome or maybe a 1st and Simmonds to move up.

- J35Bacher


Hey.. all I'm going to say is - Better Hextall make these decisions than me.

These are the toughies that would drive me nuts trying to decide over..
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 8 @ 4:05 PM ET
Hey.. all I'm going to say is - Better Hextall make these decisions than me.

These are the toughies that would drive me nuts trying to decide over..

- WarriorHockey21



Yeah.

I just think this might be your draft to maybe make that deal.

TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:07 PM ET
But if they lose the lottery Buffalo or Arizona really need Eichel as a 1C to build around. I doubt they'd be interested. Maybe if you swapped a position player for the 2016 1st since I doubt that would be a lottery pick if the Flyers had Eichel for 15-16.
- Feanor


I agree. Given the hype, it's very doubtful that either teams trades a potential franchise player. The only consideration would be significant young talent already in the NHL. Flyers #1, Sean Couturier and Wayne Simmonds might entice someone.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 8 @ 4:10 PM ET
I agree. Given the hype, it's very doubtful that either teams trades a potential franchise player. The only consideration would be significant young talent already in the NHL. Flyers #1, Sean Couturier and Wayne Simmonds might entice someone.
- TheGreat28



I would offer both 2015 1st and Simmonds or both 2015 1st and 2016 1st.

But only if it got me one of the top 2. It might be tough but it could be intriguing to AZ as I think they need multiple assets.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:15 PM ET
That's our boy.

- flyer_nutter

atta boy mason.

i mean im sure its pretty routine for these guys, but good lord.
TheGreat28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chadds Ford, PA
Joined: 06.20.2010

Apr 8 @ 4:15 PM ET
I would offer both 2015 1st and Simmonds or both 2015 1st and 2016 1st.

But only if it got me one of the top 2. It might be tough but it could be intriguing to AZ as I think they need multiple assets.

- J35Bacher


Obviously we're just guessing, but I think they'd want more. Let's say the Flyers pick 8th. I think they'd want a Dman, winger and center combination out of our pick and players.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
I would offer both 2015 1st and Simmonds or both 2015 1st and 2016 1st.

But only if it got me one of the top 2. It might be tough but it could be intriguing to AZ as I think they need multiple assets.

- J35Bacher

i think AZ needs that one star to hype around more than anything.

it doesnt seem it, but they do have a nice pile of assets on the way.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 8 @ 4:21 PM ET
So that's Mason's girl huh.

wow................. just wow

- JonnyHammerstix


I'd be afraid to even touch her. Looks like he is too
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 8 @ 4:23 PM ET
i think AZ needs that one star to hype around more than anything.

it doesnt seem it, but they do have a nice pile of assets on the way.

- stayinthefnnet



They probably do.

I am just curious how long they actually stay in AZ. Also I wonder if someone like Eichel will eventually leave once his first deal is up. I wonder if his agent would push to get him to a better and bigger market. Not saying they would but I might if I was the agent
benjichronic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 09.22.2014

Apr 8 @ 4:23 PM ET
I'd be afraid to even touch her. Looks like he is too
- Just5


I know right? That's the type of girl right there.... I'd be too scared to break something as pretty as her by putting my filthy hands on that fine piece.
MatveiDmitrii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Delco, PA
Joined: 01.16.2015

Apr 8 @ 4:24 PM ET
If only the Flyers could have racked up the points on my those bottom feeders in the league instead of losing. They could have been potentially riding a very hot Mason into the post season. And from there who knows?

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 4:26 PM ET
I don't know who it is. I have a hunch, and that's all it is, that the player is Dylan Strome or Ivan Provorov. What I do know for sure is that the Flyers will at least make pitches to move up if they don't win the McDavid lottery.
- bmeltzer


I could certainly see that happening. Last year, Hexy was apparently very aggressive in trying to get Ekblad (and with his play this year, looks like there was a reason for it). I think Hexy's strategy should be to win the lottery, draft McDavid and then flip a young player and the other 1st for an impact dman.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 8 @ 4:28 PM ET
Good for Mason! At least he's getting rewarded off of the ice
- funmaster18


Yep.. looks like Mase is doing well for himself off the ice.. He just needs to be careful while playing ball hockey this summer. Hang with your woman and staff off the concrete in the rinks.. too hard on the knees hips etc.. I know!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: A Look Inside Mason's Career Year
- bmeltzer


Love the depth of this blog. Nice work, Bill
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 8 @ 4:39 PM ET
It's been said that Eddie Van Halen was "angry" during the Fair Warning sessions and you can hear it in his playing. It's why that album is so great.

Can you smell what I'm cooking?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 8 @ 4:46 PM ET
Bill,

Could this be the year where maybe you move this years two 1st and 2016 1st for to get to number 2? Is that too much if it allowed to get Eichel, assuming number 1 takes McDavid.

- J35Bacher


No
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 8 @ 4:48 PM ET
That's our boy.

- flyer_nutter


She loves him for his glove hand.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 8 @ 4:48 PM ET
I think the Flyers may try to package their two number ones -- one of which will be a top-10 pick -- as a means of moving up to draft a coveted player whom they consider a potential major impact player at his position (apart from McDavid and Eichel).
- bmeltzer


What makes you say that, just a gut feeling or rumors swirling around practices and games?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 8 @ 4:49 PM ET
What makes you say that, just a gut feeling or rumors swirling around practices and games?
- wolfhounds


Rumors they want to move up with a specific target in mind (although I don't know who that target is).
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 8 @ 4:52 PM ET
Rumors they want to move up with a specific target in mind (although I don't know who that target is).
- bmeltzer

LET THE GAMES BEGIN
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