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- -davies-

#notallmen

(definitely Mason tho)

I think it makes sense to move him now because realistically they won't be cup contenders for a few years still. That said some argue he is there to mentor all these young D men coming up, which I get... But that is what the coaching staff is for.

They probably won't move him because the front office thinks this can turn around sooner than most of us do.
- hereticpride

I agree. I think MDZ is ready to step into the PP1 role next season. I don't think they miss a beat much like they didn't when Streit replaced Timonen. It all depends on the return of course. But Streit has two years left, his last year he's making 4 million. It's another opportunity to turn over the lineup and get some younger pieces.

Here's what I'd do after we win the lottery...

Swap places with Buffalo for their 2nd, 22nd and their 31st. Then offer the Oil the 22nd, 31st, Morin and Laughton for the 3rd. Select Eichel and Noah.

And we still keep our 27th selection. Done.
- 77rams

I had a slightly different plan

We win the lottery. Swap with Arizona for their two firsts and trade them Vinny and Amac.

I had a slightly different plan

We win the lottery. Swap with Arizona for their two firsts and trade them Vinny and Amac.
- aflyerpower8

Buffalo also only has 2 picks in round 1 now not 3.........1 went to Winnipeg

I agree. I think MDZ is ready to step into the PP1 role next season. I don't think they miss a beat much like they didn't when Streit replaced Timonen. It all depends on the return of course. But Streit has two years left, his last year he's making 4 million. It's another opportunity to turn over the lineup and get some younger pieces.
- Just5

Del Zotto has never been a good PP QB on the level of Streit or Timonen. I think it's a mistake to trade Streit.

I agree. I think MDZ is ready to step into the PP1 role next season. I don't think they miss a beat much like they didn't when Streit replaced Timonen. It all depends on the return of course. But Streit has two years left, his last year he's making 4 million. It's another opportunity to turn over the lineup and get some younger pieces.
- Just5

With the numbers hes put up I think a team going all in would give up a 1st. Detroit could be a possibly with Datsyuk and Zetterburg getting up there in age.

Del Zotto has never been a good PP QB on the level of Streit or Timonen. I think it's a mistake to trade Streit.
- MJL

Depending on how next season goes, it might be worth exploring at the TDL.

Del Zotto has never been a good PP QB on the level of Streit or Timonen. I think it's a mistake to trade Streit.
- MJL

If you're looking at next year as an isolated picture, then yes. Mistake. But in the grand scheme of things it makes sense to cash in on a high value older piece now then to let him walk for nothing right when the team starts coming into their own.

I highly doubt it happens though. Flyers seem hellbent on a quick turnaround.

Del Zotto has never been a good PP QB on the level of Streit or Timonen. I think it's a mistake to trade Streit.
- MJL

I think he'd do a good job of qbing that unit if he has a summer and offseason going into the role. It's not a difficult assignment. Basically just giving it to G and Jake in their wheelhouse or a hard accurate shot on net for a deflection. He doesn't have to do heavy lifting carrying it in.

If you're looking at next year as an isolated picture, then yes. Mistake. But in grand scheme of things it makes sense to cash in on a high value older piece now then to let him walk for nothing right when the team starts coming into their own.

I highly doubt it happens though. Flyers seem hellbent on a quick turnaround.
- hereticpride

He can always be traded down the line at the deadline. The Flyers shouldn't give up on any season, including next season. Things can change very quickly in the NHL.

Bill you are in that locker room. Do you think the flyers are willing to move streit this summer because they believe del zotto can man the PP1 role? Would they still need to count on his leadership? To me giroux Simmonds and voracek are battle tested veterans and with voracek supposedly having a bigger voice in that room. Maybe streit can be purged to acquire that piece in the draft your talking about
- Just5

I am in the locker room but not the front office. I do know that the organization feels Streit has filled a dual void in Timonen's absence -- power play point guy and a calm but straightforward voice in the dressing room.

Streit has just produced a 50-point season -- first Flyers D-man since Pronger in 2009-10 to do it and one of 11 defensemen in franchise history to reach that mark at least once -- plus he wears an A.

In other words, no, I don't think he's being traded this offseason. I think the plan is to sign Del Zotto for another couple years, see how Gostisbehere (and eventually Sanheim) develop as point-producing blueliners and go from there.

I do not expect Del Zotto to take over Streit's 1st PP unit spot next year.

I think he'd do a good job of qbing that unit if he has a summer and offseason going into the role. It's not a difficult assignment. Basically just giving it to G and Jake in their wheelhouse or a hard accurate shot on net for a deflection. He doesn't have to do heavy lifting carrying it in.
- Just5

He isn't going to become a better PP QB in the Summer or the off season. If it's not a difficult assignment, just plug anyone in there. That doesn't make much sense.

New goalie coach. I hear she does tremendous fivehole work.
- hereticpride

GOOD ONE

With the numbers hes put up I think a team going all in would give up a 1st. Detroit could be a possibly with Datsyuk and Zetterburg getting up there in age.
- hereticpride

Yeah I think several teams have a fit for him. The Flyers D prospects are coming with offensive tools to boot. MDZ could be the veteran that they lean on when they get here. He's averaging a lot of minutes already, playing on the top kill unit. He's handling a lot of responsibility right now.

Yeah I think several teams have a fit for him. The Flyers D prospects are coming with offensive tools to boot. MDZ could be the veteran that they lean on when they get here. He's averaging a lot of minutes already, playing on the top kill unit. He's handling a lot of responsibility right now.
- Just5

If they get rid of other veterans, then they'd put too much on Del Zotto and any of the young defenseman. It's a mistake.

I highly doubt it happens though. Flyers seem hellbent on a quick turnaround.
- hereticpride

I think they want to be a playoff contender if possible while continuing to build and gradually shedding big contracts to aging vets on a season-to-season basis. However, in any planning scenario, the team needs some quality veteran leaders to hold down the fort until young players show they are ready to be passed the torch.

Streit is the type of vet the Flyers would probably prefer to keep around. I do get the point about getting value in return for him given his age and his high offensive productivity this season -- his value won't go up from here, it can only go down -- but you also need players like him during the transitional phase.

Del Zotto has not been a particularly good PP point-man in his career. Even this season, most of his offense comes from joining the rush and not from creating out at the point.

I think they want to be a playoff contender if possible while continuing to build and gradually shedding big contracts to aging vets on a season-to-season basis. However, in any planning scenario, the team needs some quality veteran leaders to hold down the fort until young players show they are ready to be passed the torch.

Streit is the type of vet the Flyers would probably prefer to keep around. I do get the point about getting value in return for him given his age and his high offensive productivity this season -- his value won't go up from here, it can only go down -- but you also need players like him during the transitional phase.

Del Zotto has not been a particularly good PP point-man in his career. Even this season, most of his offense comes from joining the rush and not from creating out at the point.
- bmeltzer

I'm in favor of keeping both out 1st round picks. I like it better than the thought of the cost to move up into the top 2 or 3.

I am in the locker room but not the front office. I do know that the organization feels Streit has filled a dual void in Timonen's absence -- power play point guy and a calm but straightforward voice in the dressing room.

Streit has just produced a 50-point season -- first Flyers D-man since Pronger in 2009-10 to do it and one of 11 defensemen in franchise history to reach that mark at least once -- plus he wears an A.

In other words, no, I don't think he's being traded this offseason. I think the plan is to sign Del Zotto for another couple years, see how Gostisbehere (and eventually Sanheim) develop as point-producing blueliners and go from there.

I do not expect Del Zotto to take over Streit's 1st PP unit spot next year.
- bmeltzer

Thanks. He's definitely had a very solid year. It could put a lot of pressure on MDZ. I'm okay if they keep him another year because he should be solid again. If they find themselves in the same situation at next year's deadline I would expect them to visit a trade then.

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Laughton-Simmonds
Read-Couturier-Stewart
Cousins-Bellemare-White

Schultz-Streit
MacDonald-Schenn
Del Zotto-Gudas
Manning

Mason
Zepp

Umberger, Lecavalier, Rinaldo, Grossmann, Emery out? Stewart added?

For the record I still really like Grossmann and Emery but I understand their shortcomings.Is this line up enough this? What would you change?

If they get rid of other veterans, then they'd put too much on Del Zotto and any of the young defenseman. It's a mistake.
- MJL

It's possible. Nothing would preclude them from signing a veteran UFA as a stopgap. A Visnovsky type, etc.

I think they want to be a playoff contender if possible while continuing to build and gradually shedding big contracts to aging vets on a season-to-season basis. However, in any planning scenario, the team needs some quality veteran leaders to hold down the fort until young players show they are ready to be passed the torch.

Streit is the type of vet the Flyers would probably prefer to keep around. I do get the point about getting value in return for him given his age and his high offensive productivity this season -- his value won't go up from here, it can only go down -- but you also need players like him during the transitional phase.

Del Zotto has not been a particularly good PP point-man in his career. Even this season, most of his offense comes from joining the rush and not from creating out at the point.
- bmeltzer

That makes sense. Though I would much rather they maximize the value and take their licks next year instead of trying to be the 7th/8th seed.

Flyers always trying to have their cake and eat it too.

If they get rid of other veterans, then they'd put too much on Del Zotto and any of the young defenseman. It's a mistake.
- MJL

Agreed.

Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Laughton-Simmonds
Read-Couturier-Stewart
Cousins-Bellemare-White

Schultz-Streit
MacDonald-Schenn
Del Zotto-Gudas
Manning

Mason
Zepp

Umberger, Lecavalier, Rinaldo, Grossmann, Emery out? Stewart added?

For the record I still really like Grossmann and Emery but I understand their shortcomings.Is this line up enough this? What would you change?
- SuperSchennBros

Laughton would not center Schenn and Simmonds. I think that's a bad mix. Also have zero interest in Stewart. Not the kind of player we need in my opinion.

He isn't going to become a better PP QB in the Summer or the off season. If it's not a difficult assignment, just plug anyone in there. That doesn't make much sense.
- MJL

It makes no sense that a 24 yoa offensive defenseman could improve that part of his game?

if Flyers got the first pick, would they trade it? No. So why would anyone else?