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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
3 million for a top pairing guy ...that's not too bad
- Redmile247


Blaming Calgary is stupid anyway. They also have Brodie and Giordano signed to great contracts so shouldn't that cancel out at the very least?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:07 PM ET
Luca Sbisa is 7th-worst among NHL Defensemen in goals against per 60 minutes(min 30 games played)

1. Eric Brewer(TOR)
2. Jared Cowen(OTT)
3. Jamie Oleksiak(DAL)
4. Tyson Strachan(BUF)
5. Oscar Klefbom(EDM)
6. Roman Polak(TOR)
7. Luca Sbisa(VAN)
8. Chris Butler(STL)
9. Thomas Hickey(NYI)
10. Trevor Daley(DAL)

And guys like Polak and Daley play against other top lines most nights.

- Nucker101


How about the last 30 games?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 9 @ 3:08 PM ET
The hysteria on here, yesterday started before the asshats on 1040 started spewing their nonsense.
- Marwood

I don't know why, it's not their $.
This is an entertainment business, it's obvious that these 2 players have entertained well enough to get a raise, that's fine with me cause it's not my $.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Blaming Calgary is stupid anyway. They also have Brodie and Giordano signed to great contracts so shouldn't that cancel out at the very least?
- Nucker101

I blame Vantel
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Luca Sbisa is 7th-worst among NHL Defensemen in goals against per 60 minutes(min 30 games played)

1. Eric Brewer(TOR)
2. Jared Cowen(OTT)
3. Jamie Oleksiak(DAL)
4. Tyson Strachan(BUF)
5. Oscar Klefbom(EDM)
6. Roman Polak(TOR)
7. Luca Sbisa(VAN)
8. Chris Butler(STL)
9. Thomas Hickey(NYI)
10. Trevor Daley(DAL)

And guys like Polak and Daley play against other top lines most nights.

- Nucker101


But hes not the worst
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Yeah I think that is it for the UFAs.
- VANTEL


Benning does want to recoup some of those picks a 3rd or 4th isn't fair value, he should have been dealt sooner. Perhaps there's an outside chance he frees up some cap space but I can't see it, and who?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
How about the last 30 games?
- VANTEL

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
Blaming Calgary is stupid anyway. They also have Brodie and Giordano signed to great contracts so shouldn't that cancel out at the very least?
- Nucker101


While I was joking about the top pairing thing I will say that for a guy who I thought was completely useless first half Engelland has been pretty decent the second half

I would still say if your blaming the Engelland deal for Sbisa getting so much I would look at your GM first and Sbisa agent next
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
But hes not the worst

- SRam19

You can make lists bout anything and eventually come up with something bad about someone.

For instance lowest amount of hits or goals by a Dman making over 4 mil per year.

Benning and WD like Pizza Boy and that's all that matters
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:14 PM ET
How about the last 30 games?
- VANTEL

13th worst in the league.


Out of 170 NHL dmen who have played consistently since then. Most of the same names appear in the top 15 or so from the first list.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
You can make lists bout anything and eventually come up with something bad about someone.

For instance lowest amount of hits or goals by a Dman making over 4 mil per year.

Benning and WD like Pizza Boy and that's all that matters

- VANTEL

So goals against is irrelevant for a dman?

Look at the others on that list, they suck and/or play for crappy defensive teams. Sbisa doesn't provide offensive either so I don't get why he's earned 3.6 million since he can't stop goals or create them.

Isn't that the objective of the game of hockey?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 9 @ 3:16 PM ET
You can make lists bout anything and eventually come up with something bad about someone.

For instance lowest amount of hits or goals by a Dman making over 4 mil per year.

Benning and WD like Pizza Boy and that's all that matters

- VANTEL



Pizza!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
Benning does want to recoup some of those picks a 3rd or 4th isn't fair value, he should have been dealt sooner. Perhaps there's an outside chance he frees up some cap space but I can't see it, and who?

- VanHockeyGuy

They only have to make one change to the D next year. If they re-sign Weber they have the same D. I do expect them to try Pedan.

Weber and Hamhuis come off the books after next year freeing up 9.2 mil.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
They only have to make one change to the D next year. If they re-sign Weber they have the same D. I do expect them to try Pedan.

Bieksa and Hamhuis come off the books after next year freeing up 9.2 mil.

- VANTEL

Fixed
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:23 PM ET
So goals against is irrelevant for a dman?

Look at the others on that list, they suck and/or play for crappy defensive teams. Sbisa doesn't provide offensive either so I don't get why he's earned 3.6 million since he can't stop goals or create them.

Isn't that the objective of the game of hockey?

- Nucker101

You are looking at it the wrong way. For the next 3 years Sbisa Edler and Tanev are locked up for 13.2 mil.

We could have gone for Edler Green and Franson for 20 mil instead but we didn't.

You can call Sbisa anything you want are dislike him as much as you want but he was our 4 th best Dman this year, and was a very big reason when Bieksa Hamhuis and Tanev were out of the line up , he stepped in and played big.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:23 PM ET
You are looking at it the wrong way. For the next 3 years Sbisa Edler and Tanev are locked up for 13.2 mil.

We could have gone for Edler Green and Franson for 20 mil instead but we didn't.

You can call Sbisa anything you want are dislike him as much as you want but he was our 4 th best Dman this year, and was a very big reason when Bieksa Hamhuis and Tanev were out of the line up , he stepped in and played big.

- VANTEL

Okay then.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
They only have to make one change to the D next year. If they re-sign Weber they have the same D. I do expect them to try Pedan.

Weber and Hamhuis come off the books after next year freeing up 9.2 mil.

- VANTEL


Pedan would be a great addition, D is just not that easy to insert into the lineup, and there's some depth now. But I agree he will get a good look, Benning s high on him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:24 PM ET
Fixed
- A_SteamingLombardi

That's what I meant
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 9 @ 3:25 PM ET
The pissing & moaning yesterday was unbelievable. We finally lock down some grit and character and eveyone needs their mommy to hold them and tell them everything will be alright. I honestly don't know WTF this fan base wants except to b1tch about every decision that is made.
- Marwood


I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking maybe the stanley cup?

Any moves that look contradictory to this end goal will be complained about. And I think that's ok. No more free passes for this franchise. It's time to expect the most from canucks management team.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 9 @ 3:25 PM ET
So goals against is irrelevant for a dman?

Look at the others on that list, they suck and/or play for crappy defensive teams. Sbisa doesn't provide offensive either so I don't get why he's earned 3.6 million since he can't stop goals or create them.

Isn't that the objective of the game of hockey?

- Nucker101


Dat PK form doe
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 9 @ 3:25 PM ET
You are looking at it the wrong way. For the next 3 years Sbisa Edler and Tanev are locked up for 13.2 mil.

We could have gone for Edler Green and Franson for 20 mil instead but we didn't.

You can call Sbisa anything you want are dislike him as much as you want but he was our 4 th best Dman this year, and was a very big reason when Bieksa Hamhuis and Tanev were out of the line up , he stepped in and played big.

- VANTEL


And that's what gets you those big raises!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 3:27 PM ET
Okay then.
- Nucker101

The team is fixing a lot of problems and filling a lot of holes, you should be happy
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 9 @ 3:27 PM ET
I will go in store on Saturday , I will send you copy of receipt in PM
- VANTEL


awesome gesture b you 2, good on ya
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking maybe the stanley cup?

Any moves that look contradictory to this end goal will be complained about. And I think that's ok. No more free passes for this franchise. It's time to expect the most from canucks management team.

- bloatedmosquito

Then why did we get 5 new hot dogs?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 9 @ 3:28 PM ET
I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking maybe the stanley cup?

Any moves that look contradictory to this end goal will be complained about. And I think that's ok. No more free passes for this franchise. It's time to expect the most from canucks management team.

- bloatedmosquito


Especially when those Jabroni's on the LA board keep chirping "we got 2 cups"
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