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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
I personally am hoping we play the Flames and rekindle that rivalry (pun intended).
I give the nucks the edge in goal.
I don't know about the D (is Gio going to be back for playoffs?)
And although i like the Flames depth in regards to scoring, I give the edge to the nucks forwards, based on experience. If we can shut down/rattle their young players, i like our chances.

- dbot

Yup I'd love to see that series...just like old times
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
In order to analyze the contract of Sbisa we need to look at the actual contract. Since Sbisa was an RFA in order to qualify without arbitration he would have needed a 10% raise. The raise is based on actual salary on the final year of contract and not cap hit. Sbisa made 2.9 last year that means at min 10% raise it would have been 3.19. His actual salary for next year is 3.2. Lets say JB only signed him to 1 year "show me" deal at 3.2, then for next year Sbisa would be at 3.5 and his current salary is 3.6. By the third year he would have become a UFA coming off a 3.5 cap hit looking for a raise. In 2 years time lets say the cap only goes up by 5 mil. That would mean Sbisa would have garnered well over 4 in the free market in year 2017/18. but is currently signed for 4 mil. This is a gamble from JB who knows the UFA market is bloated and Canucks current cupboard for D is bare. Could he have gotten another D with the same skill set at the age of just 24 for 3.1 next year? The answer to that question is absolutely not.
I am not a fan of this signing but coming from an auditing background I like to analyze and see more then what the numbers show and I feel I should change my initial reaction and see this signing as a good investment.

- Linden_4_Capt

hear, hear
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 7:16 PM ET
Please tell Lefty and me we found another Steelhead fishermen?

- boonerbuck

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 9 @ 7:17 PM ET
Please tell Lefty and me we found another Steelhead fishermen?

- boonerbuck


ha. afraid not. I actually left at a young age and have never had the patience myself. Although i have vicariously enjoyed your stories of fishing around the Bulkley valley.
I'm in New Zealand now, just waiting for someone to offer to take me diving for shell fish.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 9 @ 7:18 PM ET
Yup I'd love to see that series...just like old times
- LeftCoaster



Anyone know the projected return for Gio, or is he gone for the season??
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 9 @ 7:20 PM ET
On here, if you are not prejudice and closed minded about the Canucks and management... you become a target.

- boonerbuck


I was thinking what it would look like if we all had to manage the canucks as a collective.



and that's before we killed and ate each other...
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 9 @ 7:21 PM ET
ha. afraid not. I actually left at a young age and have never had the patience myself. Although i have vicariously enjoyed your stories of fishing around the Bulkley valley.
I'm in New Zealand now, just waiting for someone to offer to take me diving for shell fish.

- dbot


If you even end up in Kaikoura on the south island there is a nice beach called meatworks if I recall correctly and its a good spot to go after Abalone.

Where abouts are you in NZ?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 9 @ 7:22 PM ET
In order to analyze the contract of Sbisa we need to look at the actual contract. Since Sbisa was an RFA in order to qualify without arbitration he would have needed a 10% raise. The raise is based on actual salary on the final year of contract and not cap hit. Sbisa made 2.9 last year that means at min 10% raise it would have been 3.19. His actual salary for next year is 3.2. Lets say JB only signed him to 1 year "show me" deal at 3.2, then for next year Sbisa would be at 3.5 and his current salary is 3.6. By the third year he would have become a UFA coming off a 3.5 cap hit looking for a raise. In 2 years time lets say the cap only goes up by 5 mil. That would mean Sbisa would have garnered well over 4 in the free market in year 2017/18. but is currently signed for 4 mil. This is a gamble from JB who knows the UFA market is bloated and Canucks current cupboard for D is bare. Could he have gotten another D with the same skill set at the age of just 24 for 3.1 next year? The answer to that question is absolutely not.
I am not a fan of this signing but coming from an auditing background I like to analyze and see more then what the numbers show and I feel I should change my initial reaction and see this signing as a good investment.

- Linden_4_Capt


Very well done Linden. Sbisa only got a tiny bit more than what he was guaranteed. Really it came down to paying him his raise or trading him. He's getting 100k more than his 10% raise basically.

So it is more of a debate of why we kept him since he was signed for almost as little as Benning could have offered him. The term isnt long at all. No NTC...
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 9 @ 7:23 PM ET
If you even end up in Kaikoura on the south island there is a nice beach called meatworks if I recall correctly and its a good spot to go after Abalone.

Where abouts are you in NZ?

- belcherbd


Yeah, haven't made it down to the South island yet this time around.
I'm up in Auckland with the rest of the suckers, it's a nice city, but if it wasn't for the job/schooling, i'd be outta here in an instant.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 7:24 PM ET
Anyone know the projected return for Gio, or is he gone for the season??
- dbot

Done for the year. Torn bicep I think, had to have surgery?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 9 @ 7:26 PM ET
Yeah, haven't made it down to the South island yet this time around.
I'm up in Auckland with the rest of the suckers, it's a nice city, but if it wasn't for the job/schooling, i'd be outta here in an instant.

- dbot


South Island is amazing, same with the east cape in the N. Island.....the whole place is amazing. Enjoy
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 9 @ 7:26 PM ET
I was thinking what it would look like if we all had to manage the canucks as a collective.



and that's before we killed and ate each other...

- bloatedmosquito

I can't believe I was wearing a tie that day.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 7:26 PM ET
Probably my last fish for the year Booner

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 9 @ 7:30 PM ET
Very well done Linden. Sbisa only got a tiny bit more than what he was guaranteed. Really it came down to paying him his raise or trading him. He's getting 100k more than his 10% raise basically.

So it is more of a debate of why we kept him since he was signed for almost as little as Benning could have offered him. The term isnt long at all. No NTC...

- boonerbuck


I think essentially the debate comes down to if you like the player or not. I think most who are not a fan of Sbisa felt that whatever contract he was resigned at would be too high.
Time will tell as with everything, maybe this contract gives Sbisa a big confident boost and takes his game to the next level. I'm pretty clearly in the anti-Sbisa corner but he did play a great game against LA, hope he keeps it up.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 9 @ 7:33 PM ET
I can't believe I was wearing a tie that day.
- Marwood


Man, your memory is terrible. It was corporate picture day for the new web site. You're the one who sent out the fcking memo!
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 9 @ 7:36 PM ET
I was thinking what it would look like if we all had to manage the canucks as a collective.



and that's before we killed and ate each other...

- bloatedmosquito

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 7:37 PM ET
Man, your memory is terrible. It was corporate picture day for the new web site. You're the one who sent out the fcking memo!
- bloatedmosquito


Might want to resend that memo...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 9 @ 7:43 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


Chimp wearing a tie is always gold.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Apr 9 @ 8:09 PM ET
In order to analyze the contract of Sbisa we need to look at the actual contract. Since Sbisa was an RFA in order to qualify without arbitration he would have needed a 10% raise. The raise is based on actual salary on the final year of contract and not cap hit. Sbisa made 2.9 last year that means at min 10% raise it would have been 3.19. His actual salary for next year is 3.2. Lets say JB only signed him to 1 year "show me" deal at 3.2, then for next year Sbisa would be at 3.5 and his current salary is 3.6. By the third year he would have become a UFA coming off a 3.5 cap hit looking for a raise. In 2 years time lets say the cap only goes up by 5 mil. That would mean Sbisa would have garnered well over 4 in the free market in year 2017/18. but is currently signed for 4 mil. This is a gamble from JB who knows the UFA market is bloated and Canucks current cupboard for D is bare. Could he have gotten another D with the same skill set at the age of just 24 for 3.1 next year? The answer to that question is absolutely not.
I am not a fan of this signing but coming from an auditing background I like to analyze and see more then what the numbers show and I feel I should change my initial reaction and see this signing as a good investment.

- Linden_4_Capt


I did not realize his salary was $3.19. If that's the case, the only way we get him for less is taking him to arbitration and trying to pay him less. If that's the case, this is pretty much a standard re-up at a reasonable price for a decent term. Can't really hate on that.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Apr 9 @ 8:10 PM ET
I was thinking what it would look like if we all had to manage the canucks as a collective.



and that's before we killed and ate each other...

- bloatedmosquito


Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 9 @ 8:19 PM ET
I can't believe I was wearing a tie that day.
- Marwood


Casual Monkey Fridays?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 8:44 PM ET
2-0 Ottawa
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 9 @ 8:44 PM ET
Casual Monkey Fridays?
- Zogg

Would you like to see my monkey?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 9 @ 8:45 PM ET
2-0 Ottawa
- VANTEL

Its good game so far. Hammond looks great.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 9 @ 8:55 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
· 20h 20 hours ago
Phaneuf tonight -- http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ibe-embarrassing-feeling/

wondering what is gonna happen in the off season in Toronto.
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