Again, I agree. Are these two draftees better than Lindros who got dealt? poop happens.
- jstross

Neither of these kids is likely to pull a Lindros. They will probably sign with whomever drafts them and start the clock towards UFA, or a massive deal at age 22 that sees them making $7mm a year

Neither of these kids is likely to pull a Lindros. They will probably sign with whomever drafts them and start the clock towards UFA, or a massive deal at age 22 that sees them making $7mm a year
- Jsaquella

Haven't heard any "don't draft me because I'm not playing for you crap" so that makes sense. I just think as good as these 2 may be there are some desperate teams out there. I don't think anything happens, but won't be surprised if it does.

Haven't heard any "don't draft me because I'm not playing for you crap" so that makes sense. I just think as good as these 2 may be there are some desperate teams out there. I don't think anything happens, but won't be surprised if it does.
- jstross

I would be, these guys are young, but they're still professionals. I think they both have level heads and understand that playing in the NHL is a great gift, no matter for what team. Also that the teams that pick them will be the teams on top of the league in a few years.

I would be, these guys are young, but they're still professionals. I think they both have level heads and understand that playing in the NHL is a great gift, no matter for what team. Also that the teams that pick them will be the teams on top of the league in a few years.
- JAKEw1234

Sorry for the cryptic post. I wouldn't be surprised if some desperate GM throws a kitchen sink type offer and the team in position 1 takes it. I cited examples earlier that shocked everyone and the team giving up the one pick or player won in most cases.

Sorry for the cryptic post. I wouldn't be surprised if some desperate GM throws a kitchen sink type offer and the team in position 1 takes it. I cited examples earlier that shocked everyone and the team giving up the one pick or player won in most cases.
- jstross

Oh ya, I'd like Hextall to at least kick tires. Like I've said before, it's hard to overpay for these picks considering the prospects.

What's your thoughts on McClellan in philly?
- Just5

sure if the players don't tune him out

sure if the players don't tune him out
- 2Real

how bout them sharks

Haven't heard any "don't draft me because I'm not playing for you crap" so that makes sense. I just think as good as these 2 may be there are some desperate teams out there. I don't think anything happens, but won't be surprised if it does.
- jstross

It makes sense, because under the old system, such a tactic was easier to pull off. If Lindros had signed with Quebec, they owned him until age 31. There was no salary system, so he could have simply forced a trade to whomever offered him the biggest deal. Now there's a rookie cap.

Unless a team like Columbus or Dallas or Colorado wins, the team getting the top pick is going to have a lot of holes to fill and might not be close to contending. is it better to grab McDavid and build around him, or get other assets, some of who will cost more(i.e. veterans and guys in the later stages of ELCs)

It'll take two giant sets of balls to pull off a trade for McDavid or Eichel.

how bout them sharks
- -davies-

you cheering for your rangers?

you cheering for your rangers?
- 2Real

over both of our dead bodies

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Buffalo, Toronto, Philly...all believed to have interest in Babcock. He will get paid big $...that's a given. McDavid might tip the scale.
- ob18

do it HOLMG...i mean HEXTALL.

do it HOLMG...i mean HEXTALL.
- hammarby31

reboot the franchise trade everything for mcdavid

I root for the Soviets when I watch Miracle.

(frank) that Smurf
- Jsaquella

reboot the franchise trade everything for mcdavid
- 2Real

including carter and stevens?

Still getting Jack Eichel, female doges!
- Jsaquella

dwight schrute is the sabres gm? who knew?

Still getting Jack Eichel, female doges!
- Jsaquella

This is a punchable face.

Did we fire Berube yet?

including carter and stevens?
- hammarby31

Especially Carter and Stevens.

Did we fire Berube yet?
- BiggE

Was really expecting to see that he had been fired when the Leafs cleaned house.....

Sorry for the cryptic post. I wouldn't be surprised if some desperate GM throws a kitchen sink type offer and the team in position 1 takes it. I cited examples earlier that shocked everyone and the team giving up the one pick or player won in most cases.
- jstross

I'm of the exact opposite opinion: I'd be stunned if a team made a deal like that because the assets it would take to pull off that deal might set the acquiring team back more years than McDavid would put them ahead.

I'm of the exact opposite opinion: I'd be stunned if a team made a deal like that because the assets it would take to pull off that deal might set the acquiring team back more years than McDavid would put them ahead.
- johndewar

Let's just look at what it would take (at minimum) for the Flyers to attempt to get McDavid. I'm thinking along the lines of:

B. Schenn
Couturier
Both 2105 1st round picks
Simmonds
Sanheim
2016 1st rounder

If (big if) that's enough, you're losing your 22-year-old shutdown center, your next 3 2st round picks, your top goal-scorer and power forward, and the top defense prospect in your system, and, well, Schenn. That's quite a few holes (present and future) to fill in, especially considering you already have a top-10 scoring center on the roster.

I think the Sabres wouldn't even do that, they'd probably require a proven yet young first-line center coming back (Seguin/Forsberg/Monahan/etc.) to start talks.

Was really expecting to see that he had been fired when the Leafs cleaned house.....
- johndewar

I would bet before the end of the week.
Hexy shows less of his hand and the organization will not embarass him so it wouldnt come quickly (unless you were not a former flyer)

Let's just look at what it would take (at minimum) for the Flyers to attempt to get McDavid. I'm thinking along the lines of:

B. Schenn
Couturier
Both 2105 1st round picks
Simmonds
Sanheim
2016 1st rounder

If (big if) that's enough, you're losing your 22-year-old shutdown center, your next 3 2st round picks, your top goal-scorer and power forward, and the top defense prospect in your system, and, well, Schenn. That's quite a few holes (present and future) to fill in, especially considering you already have a top-10 scoring center on the roster.

I think the Sabres wouldn't even do that, they'd probably require a proven yet young first-line center coming back (Seguin/Forsberg/Monahan/etc.) to start talks.
- jmatchett383

We gave up Peter Forsberg, Mike Ricci, Kerry Huffman, Steve Duchesne, Ron Hextall, 1st round pickChris Simon and 15 million for Lindros. I dont think McDavid is as much a once in lifetime package like Lindros was and that stripped the franchise for years. Comparatively, though a generation apart, I wouldnt strip yourself like that for McDavid.

Let's just look at what it would take (at minimum) for the Flyers to attempt to get McDavid. I'm thinking along the lines of:

B. Schenn
Couturier
Both 2105 1st round picks
Simmonds
Sanheim
2016 1st rounder

If (big if) that's enough, you're losing your 22-year-old shutdown center, your next 3 2st round picks, your top goal-scorer and power forward, and the top defense prospect in your system, and, well, Schenn. That's quite a few holes (present and future) to fill in, especially considering you already have a top-10 scoring center on the roster.

I think the Sabres wouldn't even do that, they'd probably require a proven yet young first-line center coming back (Seguin/Forsberg/Monahan/etc.) to start talks.
- jmatchett383

I think that's probably close to what Buffalo would want. If you're the Sabres, McDavid is a huge building block. If he's traded, you need to fill a ton of holes with the return.

I'd want Simmonds, Couturier, Sanheim, Gostisbehere and both 1st rounders this year, myself.

We gave up Peter Forsberg, Mike Ricci, Kerry Huffman, Steve Duchesne, Ron Hextall, 1st round pickChris Simon and 15 million for Lindros. I dont think McDavid is as much a once in lifetime package like Lindros was and that stripped the franchise for years. Comparatively, though a generation apart, I wouldnt strip yourself like that for McDavid.
- Steelmanpa

The trade was Peter Forsberg, Steve Duschene, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Ron Hextall, Chris Simon, Philly’s first-round pick in 1993 and 1994, and $15 million in cash, for Lindros