I mean sure if someone wants to overpay, but most likely no one is going to give us fair value right now.
- Herzeleid

If Murray trades him it's a big red flag IMO. Let the kid either bust or figure it out here. He has little value, there is no point in trading him

If Murray trades him it's a big red flag IMO. Let the kid either bust or figure it out here. He has little value, there is no point in trading him
- sbroads24

If they move a d-man to get someone like o'reilly i could see him moving grigorenko for a young d-man with similar value/upside.

So the Sabres fire Nolan to make it look like management wanted more wins...

So the Sabres fire Nolan to make it look like management wanted more wins...
- whipper334

It is the perfect plan Muahahahaha!!!!!!

If Murray trades him it's a big red flag IMO. Let the kid either bust or figure it out here. He has little value, there is no point in trading him
- sbroads24

He dosent fit into the future top 6 here IMO. He is not a winger and shouldn't be. He isn't Murrays player and he has made it clear he will trade anyone.

If they move a d-man to get someone like o'reilly i could see him moving grigorenko for a young d-man with similar value/upside.
- Sabresfan-365

I think O'Reilly is staying.

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He dosent fit into the future top 6 here IMO. He is not a winger and shouldn't be. He isn't Murrays player and he has made it clear he will trade anyone.
- Cheeseballin

We had Phil Varone as our 1C at one point. I can't believe people can say he doesn't have a place, or a spot to compete for

I think O'Reilly is staying.
- sbroads24

His name was the first that came to mind but you could swap it with < insert two way top 6 forward here >

We had Phil Varone as our 1C at one point. I can't believe people can say he doesn't have a place, or a spot to compete for
- sbroads24

So he is going to take one of McEichel or Reinhart's spots? I highly doubt we see Reinhart as our 3rd line center in 2 years.

We had Phil Varone as our 1C at one point. I can't believe people can say he doesn't have a place, or a spot to compete for
- sbroads24

I don't think it's so much he doesn't have a place but that at this point he may have more value to the team as a trade asset. Personally, I'd give him the top 6 minutes this coming year then make that call but Murray may have already made up his mind.

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- Orphen22

It's gonna be good!!

So he is going to take one of McEichel or Reinhart's spots? I highly doubt we see Reinhart as our 3rd line center in 2 years.
- Cheeseballin

could be a good winger.

His name was the first that came to mind but you could swap it with
- Sabresfan-365

Sure, but is Grigorenko the sticking point in any trade, or could you just insert a 2nd round pick?

could be a good winger.
- Sabresfan-365

Id rather trade for a proven winger if thats the case. He should be and always will be a center IMO

So he is going to take one of McEichel or Reinhart's spots? I highly doubt we see Reinhart as our 3rd line center in 2 years.
- Cheeseballin

Reinhart could absolutely be a checking center. He's the smartest player in our system and has been compared to Bergeron and Kopitar.

Also, why not give Grigo the top 6 minutes this upcoming season and see if he can increase his value?

Grigorenko has trade value now? Oh, cool. If we don't win the lottery, Sabres' 1st, Grigorenko and Reinhart for the #1 overall. I don't freaking care, McDavid is on a whole 'nother level than Eichel.

Reinhart could absolutely be a checking center. He's the smartest player in our system and has been compared to Bergeron and Kopitar.

Also, why not give Grigo the top 6 minutes this upcoming season and see if he can increase his value?
- sbroads24

You don't draft a guy 2nd overall to be checking center... Girgensons is our guy there and will be for a while. Do Bergeron or Kopitar play a 3rd line checkign role. No

Sure, but is Grigorenko the sticking point in any trade, or could you just insert a 2nd round pick?
- sbroads24

At this point probably not. What im thinking is Murray's already made up his mind about him and that if/when they move let's say a d-man like McCabe or even zadorov for a forward (why i brought up o reilly since i figure they'd want a d-man more than grigs), he may choose to flip griogrenko for a d-man of similar value (kassian-hodgson kinda trade).

Reinhart could absolutely be a checking center. He's the smartest player in our system and has been compared to Bergeron and Kopitar.

Also, why not give Grigo the top 6 minutes this upcoming season and see if he can increase his value?
- sbroads24

Because why give him top six minutes when you're giving McEichel top 6 minutes.

Grigorenko has trade value now? Oh, cool. If we don't win the lottery, Sabres' 1st, Grigorenko and Reinhart for the #1 overall. I don't freaking care, McDavid is on a whole 'nother level than Eichel.
- awildmudkip

Perhaps its just because there's an 80% chance we don't win the lottery, but i don't think the gap between Eichel and McDavid is our 1st, grigorenko, and Reinhart.

You don't draft a guy 2nd overall to be checking center... Girgensons is our guy there and will be for a while. Do Bergeron or Kopitar play a 3rd line checkign role. No
- Cheeseballin

This.

Id rather trade for a proven winger if thats the case. He should be and always will be a center IMO
- Cheeseballin

Wouldn't surprise me if TM felt the same way.

Perhaps its just because there's an 80% chance we don't win the lottery, but i don't think the gap between Eichel and McDavid is our 1st, grigorenko, and Reinhart.
- Sabresfan-365

But if that's what it takes, is my point. Heck, I'd throw a little more to get it.

If I was GMTM, I'd do anything I could to lock McDavid.

You don't draft a guy 2nd overall to be checking center... Girgensons is our guy there and will be for a while. Do Bergeron or Kopitar play a checkign role. No
- Cheeseballin

Yes they do play a checking role, hence Patrice Bergeron ' s Selke

You are getting hung up on the label.