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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
it's possible........outside of the goalies, they are the most important players on their teams, no doubt.
- sensarmy_11


last year in the ECF, i think an even bigger factor than the Price injury was Subban being outplayed by McDonagh.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
it's possible........outside of the goalies, they are the most important players on their teams, no doubt.
- sensarmy_11

There are a lot of factors. Home ice is one. Habs can get their matchups they want more often then the sens. As close as these teams are, that should play into IT quite a bit. If I'm terrian, Tomas plekanek is out on the ice pretty much every time erik karlsson is.
BruteSquad
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 12.11.2014

Apr 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
The Sens are still the underdogs here IMO. We have an AHL'er in Net, and its the rookies who are carrying the offence. That's a lot of uncertainty going into the playoffs.

They've been playing playoff hockey for two months in order to keep up with the elite teams. They've been finding ways to win, but I don't think they've dominated too many games.

That being said, this come from nowhere historical run is unparalleled in modern hockey history, and its too good to hog it as a Sens fan. So I just wanted to say that all fans (including leafs fans) are welcome to cheer on this true underdog story in the making; its compelling stuff. Hockey fans of all stripes are welcome to jump on this bandwagon.

GO SENS GO

And thank you to fans of other teams who have come to voice their support. Its an acknowledgment that something special happened here in Ottawa.
cburgess
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.31.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:51 AM ET
4 months ago this thread was just about who e should pick in the top 10, even top 5. Impressive time to be following the Sens right now. All this poop throwing is hilarious. Let the men play the games. Ottawa matches up well against Montreal, but Montreal has Carey Price. As good has Hammond's run has been, Price is still the by far better tender. I think Ottawa has the tool to pull off an upset, just like 2 years ago. Sens in 6.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

Both teams are much better then they were 2 years ago. Price is much better. With no brawls this series, hopefully we can see great hockey games. And at this point, I don't think it would be an upset. Sens have been the hottest team for the last 2 months. I think they are two evenly matched teams with not much seperating them. All I say is, it will be tough for any team to beat price 4 out of 7 times.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:51 AM ET
The Sens are still the underdogs here IMO. We have an AHL'er in Net, and its the rookies who are carrying the offence. That's a lot of uncertainty going into the playoffs.

They've been playing playoff hockey for two months in order to keep up with the elite teams. They've been finding ways to win, but I don't think they've dominated too many games.

That being said, this come from nowhere historical run is unparalleled in modern hockey history, and its too good to hog it as a Sens fan. So I just wanted to say that all fans (including leafs fans) are welcome to cheer on this true underdog story in the making; its compelling stuff. Hockey fans of all stripes are welcome to jump on this bandwagon.

GO SENS GO

And thank you to fans of other teams who have come to voice their support. Its an acknowledgment that something special happened here in Ottawa.

- BruteSquad


good because we don't (frank)in want em
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:58 AM ET
Love the fact that people are chirping about the Sens trying to control out of market resellers by giving priority to local Ottawa and Gatineau fans.

So, tickets went on sale at 10:00am this morning. And, they were sold out at 10:15. Why would the Senators not discourage third party resellers.

PS: Sens have held back some tickets for people who want to buy season tickets.
BruteSquad
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 12.11.2014

Apr 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
good because we don't (frank)in want em
- DoubleDown

haha, Leafs are our most hated rivals....its not even close. But i'm ready to concede that what's happened here is too good to hog. Most Leafs fans will find it too tough to cheer for the Sens, but I feel the enlightened ones recognize a team doing the improbable and is fun to watch. It gets better with every win. I don't mind if Leafs fans join this bandwagon in the spirit of sharing a great Hockey story.
the_terror
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 07.20.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:00 PM ET
The refs favoring Montreal is one of the biggest fallacies in the NHL today. They are the 11th most penalized team this year and they rank 20th in PP opportunities. We can hardly call that favoritism so can we put that old and very used idea to rest?
- habfanforever


The refs don't play favourites with Montreal. Absolutely true. They don't.

The referees will be a factor in this series, but it won't be because of the ones they call, it'll be the ones that they don't call. Subban will flop around like he does, but the difference is that ticky-tack little penalties don't get called in the playoffs like in the regular season. So Subban probably won't be called for diving, but the guy he's trying to get caught probably won't get called either. So the end result will likely be that Subban will spend a lot of voluntary time laying face first on the ice while complaining about why penalties aren't being called.

Ottawa has got a few frost giants on their blue line. Methot and Gryba and Boro are likely going to punish the Montreal forwards into submission and not get penalties for it. Montreal really needs to hope that Pacioretty can come back, because he's basically the only guy on the Montreal roster with consistent finish who can match up against those guys physically.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Apr 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
Both teams are much better then they were 2 years ago. Price is much better. With no brawls this series, hopefully we can see great hockey games. And at this point, I don't think it would be an upset. Sens have been the hottest team for the last 2 months. I think they are two evenly matched teams with not much seperating them. All I say is, it will be tough for any team to beat price 4 out of 7 times.
- cburgess


I think we will see a brawl. I think we should see a brawl. I think Montreal comes out hitting trying to make a point. I believe that we are about to see some huge hits and some great fights.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
good because we don't (frank)in want em
- DoubleDown



Coming from a closet Leafs fan......hmmmm
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
I think we will see a brawl. I think we should see a brawl. I think Montreal comes out hitting trying to make a point. I believe that we are about to see some huge hits and some great fights.
- spatso


why would they do that? it makes no sense. one thing you can count on with Montreal is that they won't try to play another team's game. they will live or die with their own strategy.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Apr 13 @ 12:07 PM ET
on what (frank)ing planet are they comparable offensively............this is the first time in his career that subban is within 20pts of karlsson.

for their careers, karlsson has doubled him in goals and has almost 150 more pts.

if you're going to chalk that up to the system........then please go lick windows in another thread.

the reason that karlsson is given free reign to join the rush is that he's fast enough and talented enough to get back and cover 99% of the mistakes he makes. subban likely isn't....which is why he isnt' given the same freedom.

- sensarmy_11


sens you arent picking up my point. Subban is quick and its laughable that you think karlsson covers 99% of his lapses. I was raising a hypothetical question. No need to get all angry and insulting. They do play 2 different systems, thst is true. I watch a ton of sens games and karlsson is aloud to join the rush, subban doesnt. Thats just the reality. But subban has beyond crazy puck protection and an excellent skating ability, albeit less quick than karlsson, but still enough that in imo hed be able to contribute alot more. Also you are dumb to think that when karlsson joins the rush there isnt a floater to cover him. Same can be said if subban were afforded the same luxery.

Again no need to get all bent out of shape. In a couple weeks we will be able to take all these outlandish predictions and laugh at them. Im not going to say one is better than the other at this juncture, its a race to 16 wins starting wednesday. Anything can happen. I find it unfortunate tho that theres few people from either side giving the both teams the credit that is due and making these crazy statemtns about how much better one team is than the other. Be humble and try to stay objective.
tuna99
Joined: 05.25.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
sens you arent picking up my point. Subban is quick and its laughable that you think karlsson covers 99% of his lapses. I was raising a hypothetical question. No need to get all angry and insulting. They do play 2 different systems, thst is true. I watch a ton of sens games and karlsson is aloud to join the rush, subban doesnt. Thats just the reality. But subban has beyond crazy puck protection and an excellent skating ability, albeit less quick than karlsson, but still enough that in imo hed be able to contribute alot more. Also you are dumb to think that when karlsson joins the rush there isnt a floater to cover him. Same can be said if subban were afforded the same luxery.

Again no need to get all bent out of shape. In a couple weeks we will be able to take all these outlandish predictions and laugh at them. Im not going to say one is better than the other at this juncture, its a race to 16 wins starting wednesday. Anything can happen. I find it unfortunate tho that theres few people from either side giving the both teams the credit that is due and making these crazy statemtns about how much better one team is than the other. Be humble and try to stay objective.

- munky123



The reason Subban doesn't do what Karlsson does is because he can't - no one in the NHL can. It's not a coaching thing, it's a talent thing.

Skating aside, Karlsson's vision is the best in the NHL - PK is a great Dman with a ton more power, but he doesn't do what karlsson does because he can't, not because the coach doesn't want him to, he's incapable, not a knock against him, it's like comparing Paul Coffey to Rob Blake.
WillieAA
Location: Real Cool Breeze
Joined: 06.22.2007

Apr 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
why would they do that? it makes no sense. one thing you can count on with Montreal is that they won't try to play another team's game. they will live or die with their own strategy.
- DoubleDown


Well, why not, it's worked 22 years in a row....
BruteSquad
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 12.11.2014

Apr 13 @ 12:19 PM ET
why would they do that? it makes no sense. one thing you can count on with Montreal is that they won't try to play another team's game. they will live or die with their own strategy.
- DoubleDown

In 2013 they totally abandoned their game plan for a couple of games (game 3 and 4), it could happen again, but I doubt it. I also doubt we will see a line brawl, that poop never happens in the playoffs. 2013 was an anomaly. It was the Gryba hit that totally changed the complexion of that series, it energized the Habs in totally the wrong way.
This series will be different. Its a blank slate for both teams.
Fjodor
Ottawa Senators
Location: "There is NOTHING more arrogant than the advanced stats proponents"
Joined: 06.30.2013

Apr 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
Just imagine how these threads will look over the next two weeks or so... a Mount Everest of poop


But hey, great matchup!
Can't discount the possibility of a runaway series going either way, but I expect all games to be close (with at least 2 going to OT). Price and Therrien will be better prepared this time around, and I'm really curious to see how Therrien will use home ice advantage for line matching. This will be an especially tricky task if 9/68-93-6 elevate their game.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:26 PM ET
The reason Subban doesn't do what Karlsson does is because he can't - no one in the NHL can. It's not a coaching thing, it's a talent thing.

Skating aside, Karlsson's vision is the best in the NHL - PK is a great Dman with a ton more power, but he doesn't do what karlsson does because he can't, not because the coach doesn't want him to, he's incapable, not a knock against him, it's like comparing Paul Coffey to Rob Blake.

- tuna99


meh, you live by the pinch you die by the pinch....1 second round playoff for EK would suggest the latter.

Go Sens Go
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:32 PM ET
meh, you live by the pinch you die by the pinch....1 second round playoff for EK would suggest the latter.

Go Sens Go

- Garnie


wow, literally the dumbest thing i've ever read.

sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:33 PM ET
sens you arent picking up my point. Subban is quick and its laughable that you think karlsson covers 99% of his lapses. I was raising a hypothetical question. No need to get all angry and insulting. They do play 2 different systems, thst is true. I watch a ton of sens games and karlsson is aloud to join the rush, subban doesnt. Thats just the reality. But subban has beyond crazy puck protection and an excellent skating ability, albeit less quick than karlsson, but still enough that in imo hed be able to contribute alot more. Also you are dumb to think that when karlsson joins the rush there isnt a floater to cover him. Same can be said if subban were afforded the same luxery.

Again no need to get all bent out of shape. In a couple weeks we will be able to take all these outlandish predictions and laugh at them. Im not going to say one is better than the other at this juncture, its a race to 16 wins starting wednesday. Anything can happen. I find it unfortunate tho that theres few people from either side giving the both teams the credit that is due and making these crazy statemtns about how much better one team is than the other. Be humble and try to stay objective.

- munky123


fair enough........it's hard not to get a little bent out of shape though, have you seen the "hockey knowledge" flowing out of garnie?
BruteSquad
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 12.11.2014

Apr 13 @ 12:34 PM ET
sens you arent picking up my point. Subban is quick and its laughable that you think karlsson covers 99% of his lapses. I was raising a hypothetical question. No need to get all angry and insulting. They do play 2 different systems, thst is true. I watch a ton of sens games and karlsson is aloud to join the rush, subban doesnt. Thats just the reality. But subban has beyond crazy puck protection and an excellent skating ability, albeit less quick than karlsson, but still enough that in imo hed be able to contribute alot more. Also you are dumb to think that when karlsson joins the rush there isnt a floater to cover him. Same can be said if subban were afforded the same luxery.

Again no need to get all bent out of shape. In a couple weeks we will be able to take all these outlandish predictions and laugh at them. Im not going to say one is better than the other at this juncture, its a race to 16 wins starting wednesday. Anything can happen. I find it unfortunate tho that theres few people from either side giving the both teams the credit that is due and making these crazy statemtns about how much better one team is than the other. Be humble and try to stay objective.

- munky123


I agree, The Subban vs Karlsson debate is pretty boring
Subban is a phenomenal player, so is Karlsson. they are not alike. Both fan bases are allowed to be proud of their players. End of debate please.
ps. I will continue to boo Subban at games
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Apr 13 @ 12:35 PM ET
Michalek expected back for game 1.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:37 PM ET
wow, literally the dumbest thing i've ever read.


- sensarmy_11



You obviously don't read your own writing



you math do good

Sensarmy_11

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:38 PM ET
Michalek expected back for game 1.
- david22



Seen him working out on the ice Saturday at the Sensplex...whats his injury?

He looked pretty good for the 15 mins I watched.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
You obviously don't read your own writing



you math do good

Sensarmy_11


- Garnie





wow, you could be 30 feet tall and that post still would have gone over your head.
Fjodor
Ottawa Senators
Location: "There is NOTHING more arrogant than the advanced stats proponents"
Joined: 06.30.2013

Apr 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
Michalek expected back for game 1.
- david22

= Hoff down to 4th (probably)...
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