jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Beube has been an AHL head coach, an assistant NHL coach, and an NHL head coach. He's obviously a competent eye. - MJL
Ah, a resume consistent with that of the great Pierre McGuire.
Edit: His minor league coaching was actually the ECHL as opposed to AHL. |
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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The biggest danger is bringing Berube back, and having the team get off to a slow start, and making the change in season. I'd rather a change be made in the off season when the talnet pool for a replacement is largest. - MJL
I agree -- if you are gonna turf him, do it soon |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Beube has been an AHL head coach, an assistant NHL coach, and an NHL head coach. He's obviously a competent eye. - MJL
Obviously. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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How many offensive zone draws did he put out the offensively ineffective 4th line, for? - MJL
Around 250 times. A lot more than most teams 4th lines get.
http://stats.hockeyanalys...si&sort=OZFO&sortdir=DESC
The four main centers this season measured by faceoffs taken were Giroux, Couturier, Bellemare and Laughton. Whether you want to call Laughton's line or Bellemare's line the 4th line, they had much higher OZ starting percentages than Couturier even though he scored a lot more than either of them. |
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ThirdEye
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Ardmore, PA Joined: 01.04.2013
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Beats are all saying they'll be surprised if any decision on Berube is announced at the press conference.
They've been wrong before though. Several times in fact - PhillySportsGuy
I'm fairly sure the presser will come and go without us hearing anything about who'll be the Coach next year. I think it'll be a few weeks of excruciating waiting until they drop the bomb that Berube will be back. Hextall is rushed by no man. |
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FlyerGuy
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Location: PA Joined: 06.18.2007
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Beats are all saying they'll be surprised if any decision on Berube is announced at the press conference.
They've been wrong before though. Several times in fact - PhillySportsGuy
I could see this happening ... "we're still looking at everything" type of statement from Hexy. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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You do have to hand it to Hextall. Nothing seems to leak out of that organization since he's been in charge. - johndewar
He is pretty quiet about things |
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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That is why I don't know if people really understand what they are asking for if Hitch were to come back
Let's put it this way: Hitch and his beliefs have never lost a game in his life. When the team has lost, the players haven't played the right way
He is a really good coach. But if anybody thinks Berube's blunt, what do you think Hitch is gonna say to/about Brayden Schenn if he is one of those 2-in-26 droughts? - AllInForFlyers
1. Move him down to the 4th line
2. take him off the 1st PP
3. scratch him outright.
Berube did none of these things.
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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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Obviously.  - Tomahawk
*looks up Milburys credentials* |
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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I just got back from my lunch break did the press conference happen yet?? - benjichronic
Snider retired. Holmgren promoted to Chairman, Hextall promoted to President. Berube promoted to GM. Jody Shelley named Head Coach. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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He is pretty quiet about things - PhillySportsGuy
If I were him, I'd come out in goalie mask with a goalie stick, sit down and just say, "Who wants to ask me a question?" |
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Also: We don't know if Hextall doesn't mind having an a-hole on the bench -- he was successful under Iron Mike, and they won a Cup with Darryl Sutter in LA
For all we know, Hextall might think the roster is soft and needs to suck it up and learn how to win games for each other |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I agree...hope Hextall feels the same.
I don't love Brayden Schenn, but if you aren't gonna move him, somebody has to get more out of him consistently and be smart enough to give Couturier two healthy wingers at the same time - AllInForFlyers
Brayden Schenn has been moved all around the lineup, and on different lines. Maybe it's up to Brayden Schenn to raise his game. A coach doesn't have an endless supply of players to put in the lineup. If he moves one guy off of one line to another, he weakens something else. No mater what moves Berube could've made, he still has a roster of peices that don't fit. Berube consistently gets blamed for not accomplishing something that simply couldn't be done. The forward mix was not good. No matter how the lines are rearranged, there would be holes and issues in the lineup. |
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Snider retired. Holmgren promoted to Chairman, Hextall promoted to President. Berube promoted to GM. Jody Shelley named Head Coach. - Streit2ThePoint
Riley Cote named captain. Giroux to ECHL. Us need fight more yes. |
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JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ Joined: 11.24.2011
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IMO, you make the change, even if it doesn't translate to more wins, because you want the kids developing under a competent eye. - Tomahawk
I agree. I think the long term ramifications of another year of Berube could be vastly underestimated. As much as I think Vinny is toast, I'd rather have him back next year than Berube. |
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benjichronic
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Location: Wheaton, IL Joined: 09.22.2014
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If I were him, I'd come out in goalie mask with a goalie stick, sit down and just say, "Who wants to ask me a question?" - jmatchett383
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ThirdEye
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Location: Ardmore, PA Joined: 01.04.2013
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Snider retired. Holmgren promoted to Chairman, Hextall promoted to President. Berube promoted to GM. Jody Shelley named Head Coach. - Streit2ThePoint
This is a hall of fame style post. |
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FlyerGuy
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Location: PA Joined: 06.18.2007
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He is pretty quiet about things - PhillySportsGuy
even Berube is gonna tune in to the PC to see if he's coming back.
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Brayden Schenn has been moved all around the lineup, and on different lines. Maybe it's up to Brayden Schenn to raise his game. - MJL
Raise his game like setting another career high in points? |
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AllInForFlyers
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Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks Joined: 03.18.2013
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Brayden Schenn has been moved all around the lineup, and on different lines. Maybe it's up to Brayden Schenn to raise his game. A coach doesn't have an endless supply of players to put in the lineup. If he moves one guy off of one line to another, he weakens something else. No mater what moves Berube could've made, he still has a roster of peices that don't fit. Berube consistently gets blamed for not accomplishing something that simply couldn't be done. The forward mix was not good. No matter how the lines are rearranged, there would be holes and issues in the lineup. - MJL
You just gave a defense of why he should be retained, you know |
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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 2Spookyville, PA Joined: 03.09.2013
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So statistically speaking, if Couturier had the same number of offensive zone starts as Bergeron this season, they would have had exactly identical ES point totals. |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Riley Cote named captain. Giroux to ECHL. Us need fight more yes. - jmatchett383
I'd like to congratulate Zack Stortini on his 3 year, $9 million, one way contract. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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even Berube is gonna tune in to the PC to see if he's coming back.
 - FlyerGuy
 yes |
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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Jersey, NJ Joined: 01.16.2009
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Raise his game like setting another career high in points? - Feanor
I'd like Brayden Schenn to score more of those points when the games actually count for something, myself. |
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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hart-Land, NB Joined: 01.18.2007
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Snider retired. Holmgren promoted to Chairman, Hextall promoted to President. Berube promoted to GM. Jody Shelley named Head Coach. - Streit2ThePoint
haha fantastic. |
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