HonkFortheGoose
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Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
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I'm sure we will love RNH as our 2C. - Jeropotato
Just like we'll love Reinhart being our #2. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Eberle ....... - Irish 14
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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They might get a solid 4-5 years together. - Jeropotato
Agreed. Similar to the Hawks/Pens
Their will be a nice window. But either they turn out to be superstars and command 8-10 mil, in which you can keep say Hall/Nuge/McDavid, and eventually have to move Yak or Draisaitl, or you won't have depth to win.
I'd say a cup in 2-4 years is a pretty decent possibility |
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Irish 14
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Location: South Buffalo Joined: 01.25.2007
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Ristolainen - Jeropotato
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Agreed. Similar to the Hawks/Pens
Their will be a nice window. But either they turn out to be superstars and command 8-10 mil, in which you can keep say Hall/Nuge/McDavid, and eventually have to move Yak or Draisaitl, or you won't have depth to win.
I'd say a cup in 2-4 years is a pretty decent possibility - sbroads24
We all know the dynasty days are long over......someone better be making long term cap plans now.
On the bright side, the Oilers finally have depth on the farm, so hopefully a million dollar Yakimov can replace a 3 million dollar Gordon, ect. |
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Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: WNY, NY Joined: 07.01.2011
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Who will be better: Eichel or Auston Matthews? |
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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
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Who will be better: Eichel or Auston Matthews? - Beezer33
I've heard good things about Matthews, but not anywhere near the same amount of hype as Eichel. |
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Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY Joined: 07.22.2006
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This embarrassment from last night could have been avoided had the league made a rule after Edm won the lottery 3 years in a row. People had issues with it then and now they strike when it's a player that people have had on their radars for years. The league should put in a rule that a team can only win the lottery 2 times in a 10 year span. If they miss the playoffs in that 10 years then they would not have any lottery balls.
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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Murray was gang raped on the Myers/Kane deal , at least Darcy never overpaid no matter how in love he was with a player.
http://www.cbssports.com/...t-tyler-myers-in-megadeal
The Buffalo Sabres and Winnipeg Jets have completed a blockbuster deal involving multiple NHL players.
According to a tweet from the Jets, Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian along with unsigned goalie prospect Jason Kasdorf have been traded from Winnipeg to Buffalo. In exchange, the Jets will receive a package that includes Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, prospects Brendan Lemieux and Joel Armia, and a 2015 first-round draft pick, which is reportedly the lowest of Buffalo's three first-round picks this year.
Bolded is over payment and gang rape.
His love affair with certain players has already shown that this tool has a propensity to make poor decisions and over pay in the process.
Bogosian is nothing special, Myers is a far more talented dman and that's tough for me to say but true seeing what I have now saw up close from Bogosian.
Kasdorf will more than likely never be seen in a Sabres sweater.
Anyone that thinks Murray did not over pay in that deal, or lost that deal is straight up loony tunes.
That 1st round pick .....dat first round pick. |
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Irish 14
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Location: South Buffalo Joined: 01.25.2007
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Murray was gang raped on the Myers/Kane deal , at least Darcy never overpaid no matter how in love he was with a player.
http://www.cbssports.com/...t-tyler-myers-in-megadeal
The Buffalo Sabres and Winnipeg Jets have completed a blockbuster deal involving multiple NHL players.
According to a tweet from the Jets, Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian along with unsigned goalie prospect Jason Kasdorf have been traded from Winnipeg to Buffalo. In exchange, the Jets will receive a package that includes Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, prospects Brendan Lemieux and Joel Armia, and a 2015 first-round draft pick, which is reportedly the lowest of Buffalo's three first-round picks this year.
Bolded is over payment and gang rape.
His love affair with certain players has already shown that this tool has a propensity to make poor decisions and over pay in the process.
Bogosian is nothing special, Myers is a far more talented dman and that's tough for me to say but true seeing what I have now saw up close from Bogosian.
Kasdorf will more than likely never be seen in a Sabres sweater.
Anyone that thinks Murray did not over pay in that deal, or lost that deal is straight up loony tunes.
That 1st round pick .....dat first round pick. - BuffaloHardHat
Talk to me at the end of next year, Kane hasn't even laced up the skates!
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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Talk to me at the end of next year, Kane hasn't even laced up the skates! - Irish 14
He has already shown a propensity of making bad decisions to get what he wants.
I liken it to the behavior of a spoiled child.
Give him a few years and he will cripple this franchise worse than it already is.
He has a ton of money to spend, let's see how he spends it this off season. |
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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
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Talk to me at the end of next year, Kane hasn't even laced up the skates! - Irish 14
Talked to a real cool hockey guy while I was on vacation. Has done scouting for Windsor and Brampton in the past. Currently coaches Midget AAA up in Canada. He really likes Bogosian. His son played with him in the past. He thought that trade was good for both sides.
He also thinks Eichel is the better player. Guess we'll see. |
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This embarrassment from last night could have been avoided had the league made a rule after Edm won the lottery 3 years in a row. People had issues with it then and now they strike when it's a player that people have had on their radars for years. The league should put in a rule that a team can only win the lottery 2 times in a 10 year span. If they miss the playoffs in that 10 years then they would not have any lottery balls. - Khymlev13
Sure I am all for this rule lol, the Oilers already got all their good picks done or won so this will only hurt the rest of the league. |
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Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Schadenfreude, NY Joined: 09.22.2006
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Murray was gang raped on the Myers/Kane deal , at least Darcy never overpaid no matter how in love he was with a player.
http://www.cbssports.com/...t-tyler-myers-in-megadeal
The Buffalo Sabres and Winnipeg Jets have completed a blockbuster deal involving multiple NHL players.
According to a tweet from the Jets, Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian along with unsigned goalie prospect Jason Kasdorf have been traded from Winnipeg to Buffalo. In exchange, the Jets will receive a package that includes Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, prospects Brendan Lemieux and Joel Armia, and a 2015 first-round draft pick, which is reportedly the lowest of Buffalo's three first-round picks this year.
Bolded is over payment and gang rape.
His love affair with certain players has already shown that this tool has a propensity to make poor decisions and over pay in the process.
Bogosian is nothing special, Myers is a far more talented dman and that's tough for me to say but true seeing what I have now saw up close from Bogosian.
Kasdorf will more than likely never be seen in a Sabres sweater.
Anyone that thinks Murray did not over pay in that deal, or lost that deal is straight up loony tunes.
That 1st round pick .....dat first round pick. - BuffaloHardHat
Dude, kind of unfortunate phrasing there. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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He has already shown a propensity of making bad decisions to get what he wants.
I liken it to the behavior of a spoiled child.
Give him a few years and he will cripple this franchise worse than it already is.
He has a ton of money spend, let's see how it spends it this off season. - BuffaloHardHat
My biggest fear is that Murray is an egomaniac. Even his comments yesterday seemed pouty because he didn't get his way.
I'm not ready to want someone else, but he's making me nervous
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Murray was gang raped on the Myers/Kane deal , at least Darcy never overpaid no matter how in love he was with a player.
http://www.cbssports.com/...t-tyler-myers-in-megadeal
The Buffalo Sabres and Winnipeg Jets have completed a blockbuster deal involving multiple NHL players.
According to a tweet from the Jets, Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian along with unsigned goalie prospect Jason Kasdorf have been traded from Winnipeg to Buffalo. In exchange, the Jets will receive a package that includes Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, prospects Brendan Lemieux and Joel Armia, and a 2015 first-round draft pick, which is reportedly the lowest of Buffalo's three first-round picks this year.
Bolded is over payment and gang rape.
His love affair with certain players has already shown that this tool has a propensity to make poor decisions and over pay in the process.
Bogosian is nothing special, Myers is a far more talented dman and that's tough for me to say but true seeing what I have now saw up close from Bogosian.
Kasdorf will more than likely never be seen in a Sabres sweater.
Anyone that thinks Murray did not over pay in that deal, or lost that deal is straight up loony tunes.
That 1st round pick .....dat first round pick. - BuffaloHardHat
Darcy just fell in love with his players hence why we are rebuilding right now (something Darcy started) because he screwed up royally.
Did Murray overpay? On paper yes. However we all knew Myers would perform better on a better team (you argued yourself that good players make others better and argued Myers did not make anyone better) so which is it? Make up your mind. We all know you don't like Murray but showing praise to Darcy for not overpaying for players yet he signed Leino, Ehrhoff, and Hodgson to those insane contracts I'll just say you're wrong.
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Talked to a real cool hockey guy while I was on vacation. Has done scouting for Windsor and Brampton in the past. Currently coaches Midget AAA up in Canada. He really likes Bogosian. His son played with him in the past. He thought that trade was good for both sides.
He also thinks Eichel is the better player. Guess we'll see. - HonkFortheGoose
To be fair, it's always the sexy thing to do when someone is ranked #1 for so long. If you are right you look like a genius. There were a few people that said RG3 would be better than Luck out of the blue, after Luck had been ranked 1 for years...
Either way, getting the 2nd best player in this draft will be great either way |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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My biggest fear is that Murray is an egomaniac. Even his comments yesterday seemed pouty because he didn't get his way.
I'm not ready to want someone else, but he's making me nervous - sbroads24
People are reading way into his comments way too much
@BJWilsonSHC: GMTM: “Both players are outstanding players… We hope we win the lottery, but we know we’re getting a great player for the future” #Sabres
He said that and that's all that matters. |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Murray was gang raped on the Myers/Kane deal , at least Darcy never overpaid no matter how in love he was with a player.
http://www.cbssports.com/...t-tyler-myers-in-megadeal
The Buffalo Sabres and Winnipeg Jets have completed a blockbuster deal involving multiple NHL players.
According to a tweet from the Jets, Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian along with unsigned goalie prospect Jason Kasdorf have been traded from Winnipeg to Buffalo. In exchange, the Jets will receive a package that includes Tyler Myers, Drew Stafford, prospects Brendan Lemieux and Joel Armia, and a 2015 first-round draft pick, which is reportedly the lowest of Buffalo's three first-round picks this year.
Bolded is over payment and gang rape.
His love affair with certain players has already shown that this tool has a propensity to make poor decisions and over pay in the process.
Bogosian is nothing special, Myers is a far more talented dman and that's tough for me to say but true seeing what I have now saw up close from Bogosian.
Kasdorf will more than likely never be seen in a Sabres sweater.
Anyone that thinks Murray did not over pay in that deal, or lost that deal is straight up loony tunes.
That 1st round pick .....dat first round pick. - BuffaloHardHat
I wish we could gamble against one another.
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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This embarrassment from last night could have been avoided had the league made a rule after Edm won the lottery 3 years in a row. People had issues with it then and now they strike when it's a player that people have had on their radars for years. The league should put in a rule that a team can only win the lottery 2 times in a 10 year span. If they miss the playoffs in that 10 years then they would not have any lottery balls. - Khymlev13
Okay....starting next year? |
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HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY Joined: 07.26.2008
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To be fair, it's always the sexy thing to do when someone is ranked #1 for so long. If you are right you look like a genius. There were a few people that said RG3 would be better than Luck out of the blue, after Luck had been ranked 1 for years...
Either way, getting the 2nd best player in this draft will be great either way - sbroads24
I think he just likes the style game Eichel plays better. McDavid might be the better point getter, but Eichel does have a bit more of a physical presence than McDavid. McDavid is a bit quicker, but Eichel is the more powerful skater.
I also think that because of the way Eichel has always been said to be just that little bit less talented, he's going to play with a chip on his shoulder trying to prove everyone wrong. Sometimes you can't underestimate that. |
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Ihateallofu
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Meh Joined: 11.09.2014
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Again from the little I saw I would agree.
If I'm Edmonton (unless the value coming back is out of this world) you do not trade the pick.
That said it would not surprise me to see them trade it. They've made all the wrong moves since offer sheeting Vanek. Yeah it was matched but then they offer sheeted Penner how was this a bad move? we needed size and he actually scored 30 and near 30 on 2 occasions.. Take the winger when you need a center we needed both. Take the winger when you need a defensemen we already had klefbom. and what would murray have done for us at this point? hes hardly even played. people can say what they want about yaks, but murray has unequivocally proven nothing that he would've made one iota of difference thus far. silly statement.. Trade the goalie in Duby he was playing pretty brutal. and played poorly on two ther teams before this year. but yeah, it was amiss i suppose. when the issue was never him but the 6 inept defensemen in front of him along with inept forward play. Honestly the list goes on and on(and I was a huge Oiler fan growing up in the 80's so I'm not bashing).
I get it being from Buffalo and a place where maybe just maybe past history from former management makes guys not want to be here. Edmonton with all of it's rich history of former glory isn't the greatest place to play for guys. The travel I'm sure sucks and is a reason they have to way overpay for guys. And again Buffalo has done it too. There is no glass house thing going on here(so when you Oiler fans come in here bashing this post, remember to read more and post less).
But winning the lotto 4 times in 6 years is a travesty and a joke. 7 and I repeat 7!!!!!! Top 10 picks since 2007 and they still look like monkeys trying to fvck footballs out there.
Please do the right thing Edmonton. Draft McDavid like you should and move one of Hall, Ebs, RNH(he's the last of them I'd move), or Draisaitl to fix the back end. - dadeadhead
no post bashing. mact only traded dubs. he didn't make any of the other moves. but the dubs was a miss.
but they werent bad picks by any means anyways. just conventional wisdom that's abit misguided imo. some of what you said had validity. a lot of was stuff you heard some blogger or something say and it somehow turned into fact.
typical for hb
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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY Joined: 11.27.2012
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My biggest fear is that Murray is an egomaniac. Even his comments yesterday seemed pouty because he didn't get his way.
I'm not ready to want someone else, but he's making me nervous - sbroads24
I know I will end up right about him.
In the end, he will not know how to get out of his own way unfortunately for this fan base. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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People are reading way into his comments way too much
@BJWilsonSHC: GMTM: “Both players are outstanding players… We hope we win the lottery, but we know we’re getting a great player for the future” #Sabres
He said that and that's all that matters. - Stripes77
Even Jeremy White and Mike Schopp, who have praised Murray for literally every little thing he's done had an issue with his comments yesterday. |
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Khymlev13
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Jimbo83 is a steaming turd tha, NY Joined: 07.22.2006
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Okay....starting next year? - Jeropotato
Sure. But the point is that it should have been in place. It's bad to have one team holding 3 consecutive #1 picks. Even more troubling is that you're still a bottom 5 team. |
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