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jzabawa
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:24 AM ET
So who are the 2016-2017 prospects? I kid, hopefully we won't have to go through that crap again for a long time.
evanlang11
Washington Capitals
Joined: 03.30.2015

Apr 20 @ 9:25 AM ET
Buffalo is sitting pretty now. No need to make any dumb trades just worry about getting a GOALIE.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:26 AM ET
So who are the 2016-2017 prospects? I kid, hopefully we won't have to go through that crap again for a long time.
- jzabawa

I sure hope not.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 20 @ 9:28 AM ET
I can't figure out if Harrington is just trolling or not:

http://www.buffalonews.co...decision-to-make-20150419

I'd be highly shocked if Eichel stays in school unless he implodes at the World Championships or something like that.

- buffalofan19


He's trolling.

Plus people aren't really intelligent about him staying in school to get an education..

My reply is simply this in regards to him staying in school so he has a career after hockey:

So then make the most money right away would be the economical way. His entry level deal is 3 years just about a million per. He signs that at 18 when he turns 21 he is making close to $8 million plus for the next 7 years. That means when he is 28 he has made $59 million plus (not including endorsements). At 28 is near the ending of his peak playing days. He signs a 4 year deal making $10 million a season. So now he is at $99 million at age 32. He has maybe 3 years left. Signs a 3 year $12 million per year contract. That is $135 million dollars through his contract. Now lets say he stays in school for one more year. He is 19 and signs his entry level contract. So now he signs his next contract at age 22. $8 million for 7 years. Still at $59 million but now he is 29 instead of 28. Next contract we can still say 4 years at $10 million but remember production starts to decline at age 28. $99 million at age 33. Now he has maybe 2 good years left. Now he will get a 2 year deal probably around $8 million a season now since he is a year old and his production is declining. Now he is at $115 million for his career. That is a $20 million difference by waiting 1 more year. Would you stay in school for 1 more year meaning that's $20 million less you could be making in your career? Is 1 year of school worth $20 million? I don't think so especially since he won't be staying his full 4 years and won't be getting a degree. Not to mention the risk of him being hurt in college and not making any NHL money. So in fact the smart move would be to sign his pro contract.

FYI: I was using this salary cap as base I know it will go up.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Apr 20 @ 9:30 AM ET
Had Lindros been able to keep his head up I don't think we would be having this conversation
- Stripes77



I believe the Flyers missed the playoffs 3 times, got bounced in the first round twice, the second round twice and made the finals once in his 8 years there.

No, thanks. We might as well draft Hanifin if that's what people want.

I know every scenario is different, but he needs to keep the pick and draft the BU star.

And, in case anyone wants to relive how bad the trade was for Philly, or how good it was for Quebec/Colorado, here you go:

http://www.sportsology.com/node/11369
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
I believe the Flyers missed the playoffs 3 times, got bounced in the first round twice, the second round twice and made the finals once in his 8 years there.

No, thanks. We might as well draft Hanifin if that's what people want.

I know every scenario is different, but he needs to keep the pick and draft the BU star.

And, in case anyone wants to relive how bad the trade was for Philly, or how good it was for Quebec/Colorado, here you go:

http://www.sportsology.com/node/11369

- grand-magus


Connor McDavid>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric Lindros

Again its not something I would do because it will cost the farm, but you can't compare McDavid to Lindros
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Apr 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
The Cups didn't happen until they acquired Patrick Roy years later. There was a lot of circumstance that went around that, obviously. There were a number of reasons Philadelphia ended up falling short. The Lindros trade wasn't one of them.
- buffalofan19



And I fully understand that, but everything involved in that trade had a direct result on the finished product.

I'm just preaching caution. Murray's obsession with McDavid was unhealthy to start with. There's no telling where his head is at.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Apr 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
I believe the Flyers missed the playoffs 3 times, got bounced in the first round twice, the second round twice and made the finals once in his 8 years there.

No, thanks. We might as well draft Hanifin if that's what people want.

I know every scenario is different, but he needs to keep the pick and draft the BU star.

And, in case anyone wants to relive how bad the trade was for Philly, or how good it was for Quebec/Colorado, here you go:

http://www.sportsology.com/node/11369

- grand-magus


I love this image, showing what Eric Lindros brought to the "Nordique Dynasty"

grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Apr 20 @ 9:35 AM ET
Connor McDavid>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric Lindros

Again its not something I would do because it will cost the farm, but you can't compare McDavid to Lindros

- Stripes77


You can if there is a trade involved
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 20 @ 9:38 AM ET
You can if there is a trade involved
- grand-magus


No you can't different players of different generations and different talents.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 20 @ 9:42 AM ET
"Passes like Adam Oates and shoots like Alexander Ovechkin"

John Buccigross on wgr this morning. Build around this kid and lets move on.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:43 AM ET
Thanks to whoever it was that texted me the Lottery results saturday night. Ohio exchange phone number ?
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:51 AM ET
I believe the Flyers missed the playoffs 3 times, got bounced in the first round twice, the second round twice and made the finals once in his 8 years there.

No, thanks. We might as well draft Hanifin if that's what people want.

I know every scenario is different, but he needs to keep the pick and draft the BU star.

And, in case anyone wants to relive how bad the trade was for Philly, or how good it was for Quebec/Colorado, here you go:

http://www.sportsology.com/node/11369

- grand-magus


I've read that before, and ultimately, that bears as much fruit as those charts we see in college basketball and football every year: the one where a low or mid-major beats some team, that beat some other team, that beat another team, that beat still another team, that happened to beat the national champions that year. Quebec/Colorado still had to make a number of moves after that, albeit with assets acquired in the deal, in order to get the cup. The big one, of course, was getting Patrick Roy, which never would have happened had the disaster in Montreal not happened. The assets that changed hands in that deal weren't ground breaking (other than Roy). Had Philadelphia upped the ante, they would most likely have at least a Cup, and Colorado would be far from a guarantee. Montreal's screw-up had far more to do with a Quebec/Colorado dynasty than the Lindros trade did. And yes, that even considers the fact that they got Forsberg out of it.

The point is this: whether it's McDavid or Eichel, there are still a number of moves that need to be made if this team is going to win a Cup, and a lot of luck to be had as well.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:53 AM ET
"Passes like Adam Oates and shoots like Alexander Ovechkin"

John Buccigross on wgr this morning. Build around this kid and lets move on.

- Stripes77



The whole premise of my deal is if he ends up pouting and refusing to play there, which I doubt happens. And the only reason I would want to make that deal is because Buffalo has the assets to do it, and you need to keep one of these two out of the Eastern Conference, and especially your division. I don't care what someone gives up. The team that trades for the first pick in the draft is going to be better than before they made that trade, which is why Edmonton won't make it unless McDavid backs them into a corner. Again, I doubt that happens.
OnPoint
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 04.07.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:56 AM ET
"Passes like Adam Oates and shoots like Alexander Ovechkin"

John Buccigross on wgr this morning. Build around this kid and lets move on.

- Stripes77

That's where I'm at too. I think people should worry less about what we didn't get and start getting excited about what we're going to.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:56 AM ET
Also, can we please stop with the "McDavid's career will be ruined in Edmonton"? The guy they will get this year is better than any of the #1's they had, and it's not really close. They also have more assets than just about anyone to use to fill the holes in their team.
grand-magus
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "...i'd say you were high on mushrooms", GMTM, NY
Joined: 06.06.2014

Apr 20 @ 9:57 AM ET
The whole premise of my deal is if he ends up pouting and refusing to play there, which I doubt happens. And the only reason I would want to make that deal is because Buffalo has the assets to do it, and you need to keep one of these two out of the Eastern Conference, and especially your division. I don't care what someone gives up. The team that trades for the first pick in the draft is going to be better than before they made that trade, which is why Edmonton won't make it unless McDavid backs them into a corner. Again, I doubt that happens.
- buffalofan19


So you're saying that if Buffalo trades, for instance, Eichel, Risto, Reinhart, 2 firsts and and second for McDavid, we're better than before that deal?


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 20 @ 10:00 AM ET
That's where I'm at too. I think people should worry less about what we didn't get and start getting excited about what we're going to.
- OnPoint


That's about all that needs to be said. Can't wait to see the daily whining about it.
IceColdBeer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The CLT, NC
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 20 @ 10:05 AM ET
I'm hoping McDavid is too classy to pull a Lindros and TMGM settles down and we stick with number two. I posted this elsewhere - but if McDavid is Crosby and Eichel is Toews, is there that big of a drop off to be giving up that much?

You could argue that a Toews fits this team better than a Crosby.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 20 @ 10:10 AM ET
Connor McDavid>>>>>>>>>>>>Eric Lindros

Again its not something I would do because it will cost the farm, but you can't compare McDavid to Lindros

- Stripes77


You can't compare them until McDavid's Career is over.

You ( or anyone) have no idea if McDavid will have a better Career. He is going to Edmonton.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 20 @ 10:12 AM ET
So you're saying that if Buffalo trades, for instance, Eichel, Risto, Reinhart, 2 firsts and and second for McDavid, we're better than before that deal?
- grand-magus



If McDavid plays the "I will never play here" card, it won't take that much.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 20 @ 10:14 AM ET
You can't compare them until McDavid's Career is over.

You ( or anyone) have no idea if McDavid will have a better Career. He is going to Edmonton.

- RynoBull


But this time its different..... or something like that.

They have Mctavish..... who is apparently a god.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Apr 20 @ 10:17 AM ET
But this time its different..... or something like that.

They have Mctavish..... who is apparently a god.

- ImThatGuy


Your Hyperbole is deafening. McT isn't a god...he is a demi-god.

Eichel will have a better career in Buffalo than McDavid Will have in Edmonton.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 20 @ 10:18 AM ET
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 20 @ 10:19 AM ET
I'd rather stay as far away from Kessel as I could.

If I were a betting man Kessel and ROR are traded for each other.

- dadeadhead


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