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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Apr 21 @ 10:58 AM ET
Jack Eichel led the nation in scoring at 1.77 points per game. The next closest freshman, Dylan Larkin (19) had a 1.34 ppg pace and 24 less points. The next closest player, senior and linemate of Eichel, Evan Rodrigues, had 61 points, 10 less than Eichel. He's a free agent currently and has had a very average college career prior to this season.
- TheSabresTaco

Nice find . I could see TM looking into something like this.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
TJ Oshie
- Stripes77


I would make that deal. Oshie would fill out the top 6.



ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
Lucic?
- stashu


Ive been banging that drum for awhile. I think he would be a great addition to the top 6.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
Nice find . I could see TM looking into something like this.
- cabin


Figured I'd do some surface research before I really dig in and procrastinate with real work (this is real work?)

The most interesting thing about my quick points-scouting is that he made an undrafted college senior score the second most points in the nation. His ppg totals through 4 years of school was 0.33, 0.89, 0.45, 1.49. It's not out of the ordinary that a UFA senior leads the nation within the top 10-20 players at above 1-1.3 ppg, but a guy like this, all over the board suddenly hooks up with a freshman and lifts his average ppg pace from 0.56 over 3 years to 0.79 over 4 years. That's the definition of an impact player. A guy, we can say, makes players around him better. Much better.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:10 AM ET
I would make that deal. Oshie would fill out the top 6.
- ImThatGuy

Oshie is overrated. And doesn't he play on the third line for the underperforming playoff blues?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
Figured I'd do some surface research before I really dig in and procrastinate with real work (this is real work?)

The most interesting thing about my quick points-scouting is that he made an undrafted college senior score the second most points in the nation. His ppg totals through 4 years of school was 0.33, 0.89, 0.45, 1.49. It's not out of the ordinary that a UFA senior leads the nation within the top 10-20 players at above 1-1.3 ppg, but a guy like this, all over the board suddenly hooks up with a freshman and lifts his average ppg pace from 0.56 over 3 years to 0.79 over 4 years. That's the definition of an impact player. A guy, we can say, makes players around him better. Much better.

- TheSabresTaco


but he doesn't play when the games mean something or when the going gets tough, OR so I was told.
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
I would make that deal. Oshie would fill out the top 6.
- ImThatGuy


Kane Eichel Oshie
Moulson Reinhart Ennis
Larrson Girgensons Gionta
Foligno McCormick Deslauriers

Risto Bogosian
Gorges Zadorov
Pysyk FA
Weber

Dubnyk/Niemi
Lindback

Bylsma/ Babcock behind the bench
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
Figured I'd do some surface research before I really dig in and procrastinate with real work (this is real work?)

The most interesting thing about my quick points-scouting is that he made an undrafted college senior score the second most points in the nation. His ppg totals through 4 years of school was 0.33, 0.89, 0.45, 1.49. It's not out of the ordinary that a UFA senior leads the nation within the top 10-20 players at above 1-1.3 ppg, but a guy like this, all over the board suddenly hooks up with a freshman and lifts his average ppg pace from 0.56 over 3 years to 0.79 over 4 years. That's the definition of an impact player. A guy, we can say, makes players around him better. Much better.

- TheSabresTaco

I was a bit disappointed for a few minutes Saturday but I quickly stopped giving a poop and was happy with pick number two.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 21 @ 11:11 AM ET
I would make that deal. Oshie would fill out the top 6.
- ImThatGuy


I'll play along. I think you're throwing in another piece other than the 2nd 1st.

Kane-Eichel-Ennis
Moulson-Girgensons-Oshie
Foligno-Reinhart-Gionta/Grigorenko
Deslauriers-McCormick-(____stinks)

Where does Larsson and Hodgson fit in, assuming they both return.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
Oshie is overrated. And doesn't he play on the third line for the underperforming playoff blues?
- Smittyx36


2nd
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
Oshie is overrated. And doesn't he play on the third line for the underperforming playoff blues?
- Smittyx36


60pts this year is nothing overrated.

3rd line on a stacked Blues team he would still be a top 6 forward on almost every other NHL team
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:18 AM ET
Oshie is overrated. And doesn't he play on the third line for the underperforming playoff blues?
- Smittyx36


55 points this year, if playing on the third line, is pretty good.

It doesn't help that Minnesota plays a suffocating brand of hockey for the playoffs. Kind of like the Kings did when they won the cup, so you cant blame them.

games 3 - 24-17 shots on goal.

burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:21 AM ET
I was a bit disappointed for a few minutes Saturday but I quickly stopped giving a poop and was happy with pick number two.
- jochfr



I was fine with pick 2 as well. I was only ticked because Edmonton got another freaking 1st overall pick. Hell I would have even been ok with Toronto getting him. Yes, even Toronto. The rivalry would have been great for a looooong time. But no, Edmonton, the black hole gets him.
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Apr 21 @ 11:21 AM ET
I'll play along. I think you're throwing in another piece other than the 2nd 1st.

Kane-Eichel-Ennis
Moulson-Girgensons-ROR
Foligno-Reinhart-Gionta
Deslauriers-McCormick-(_Love___stinks)

Where does Larsson and Hodgson fit in, assuming they both return.

- TheSabresTaco


I really hope they can trade Gringo, maybe a package deal to move up in the draft.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 21 @ 11:21 AM ET
55 points this year, if playing on the third line, is pretty good.

It doesn't help that Minnesota plays a suffocating brand of hockey for the playoffs. Kind of like the Kings did when they won the cup, so you cant blame them.

games 3 - 24-17 shots on goal.

- ImThatGuy

kids only been over 20 goals once. I'd just prefer to add someone with more of a scoring touch is all. But if the price isn't to much adding him will obviously improve the offense.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 21 @ 11:22 AM ET
I'll play along. I think you're throwing in another piece other than the 2nd 1st.

Kane-Eichel-Ennis
Moulson-Girgensons-Oshie
Foligno-Reinhart-Gionta/Grigorenko
Deslauriers-McCormick-(____stinks)

Where does Larsson and Hodgson fit in, assuming they both return.

- TheSabresTaco


Foligno down to the 4th

Larsson plays wing on the 3rd and I keep forgetting about Coho and rightfully so lol.

I am okay with Girgensons starting to center the 2nd line but Reinhart needs to take that over eventually and Girgensons centers the 3rd down the road
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:22 AM ET
I was fine with pick 2 as well. I was only ticked because Edmonton got another freaking 1st overall pick. Hell I would have even been ok with Toronto getting him. Yes, even Toronto. The rivalry would have been great for a looooong time. But no, Edmonton, the black hole gets him.
- burner087


If Toronto had won at least we'd know the talk of trading up to #1 would be out of the question.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:24 AM ET
Foligno down to the 4th

Larsson plays wing on the 3rd and I keep forgetting about Coho and rightfully so lol.

I am okay with Girgensons starting to center the 2nd line but Reinhart needs to take that over eventually and Girgensons centers the 3rd down the road

- Stripes77


Or Girgensons or Reinhart replace Moulson as #2 LW and he drops down (or traded preferably)
Stripes77
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Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 21 @ 11:27 AM ET
Or Girgensons or Reinhart replace Moulson as #2 LW and he drops down (or traded preferably)
- stashu


I think Girgensons is that ideal 3rd line center. Him playing on the 2nd line we have a good team, but him centering the 3rd line we have a great team
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
I think Girgensons is that ideal 3rd line center. Him playing on the 2nd line we have a good team, but him centering the 3rd line we have a great team
- Stripes77


I get that, but my goal was more to replace Moulson as the 2LW. If they had a player do that and then keep the centers as you say, I'm all for it.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 21 @ 11:30 AM ET
kids only been over 20 goals once. I'd just prefer to add someone with more of a scoring touch is all. But if the price isn't to much adding him will obviously improve the offense.
- Smittyx36


He also missed 10 games this season. I agree more scoring would be ideal but those players are going to cost more...I have been on the Phil Kessel train I know why people don't like him and I am not here to argue that again but if you don't want to give up a ton of assets Oshie would be one of the players I would look at.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
We should be thankful that there are 2 number 1 picks in this draft and we come out with Eichel. I know McDavid was the prize but i'm sure Eichel will be just as good.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:31 AM ET
I'm going to preface this by saying the selection is far-fetched, but it's just a scenario for opinions...

If Boston were to go nuts and decide they want to leapfrog everyone and trade for #1 to select Eichel - the hometown boy - would they have the pieces to do it?

With new management coming in, perhaps a crazy move to the top would be a thought for them overall (again, I know the realistic pick is McDavid)
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Apr 21 @ 11:32 AM ET
We should be thankful that there are 2 number 1 picks in this draft and we come out with Eichel. I know McDavid was the prize but i'm sure Eichel will be just as good.
- SABRES 89


At this point I prefer Eichel as I think McDavid would cost way too much to swap picks
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
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Apr 21 @ 11:33 AM ET
I get that, but my goal was more to replace Moulson as the 2LW. If they had a player do that and then keep the centers as you say, I'm all for it.
- stashu


We have Moulson for another 4 seasons. No need to replace him yet anyway. Remember he did have over 40 points this year playing on a god awful team. Give him a center like Reinhart and PP time he should be around 50-60 points playing as a 2nd line winger.

I would think a guy like Bailey could be the ideal 2nd line winger in 3-4 years if he keeps improving his skating or a guy like Fasching. I like Gus I just want better as my second line scoring winger.
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